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removing inappropriate hyphenation

there are repeated error of hyphenatic anglicized korean transliterations --Imagemonth (talk) 19:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Moved back again. The name is hyphenated in many reliable sources (such as the BBC) and is consistant with Korean naming conventions. PC78 (talk) 15:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

The "hyphenation" of inappropriate Korean nomenclature is a substance of infinite confusion and unreliability. It is punctuation of sentences and names. --Imagemonth (talk) 16:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

We have to stick to Korean naming conventions on Misplaced Pages. Feel free to use whatever punctuation you want on your personal blog or Cyworld or Naver page. 61.82.124.147 (talk) 07:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

(Continued Deletion of) Criticism Section

Lee is a very public figure. Public figures attract criticism. Criticism is an important aspect of the biography of any active public figure. Cf. Criticism of George W. Bush

That said, apparently "Criticism" is too strong a word for some editors. I will therefore create a "Controversies" section. I intend to use some or all of the following sources. Editors may of course choose to respond with their own sources.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/world/asia/12canal.html?ref=asia http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/JB01Dg01.html https://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=970fac0c1223ec77b17cef60090ade06 http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200708/200708210018.html http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/241894.html http://www.worldsecuritynetwork.com/showArticle3.cfm?article_id=15854&topicID=43

Trachys (talk) 08:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2008/05/137_23934.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.130.222.212 (talk) 08:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

This section of the article is very biased, and has only two sources, one of which is from the Buddhist Channel, which one might expect to be somewhat biased on the issue...

The general article itself is in need of some stylistic editing as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.173.59.5 (talk) 08:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the section needed work, but with it gone the article reads like it was written by Lee's press secretary. Replace the section with sources you'd prefer to use, or I'm putting the original back in.Trachys (talk) 17:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Photo Update

Doesn't anyone have a formal(or better) picture of him? --Joseph2625 (talk) 02:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

How about "Image:Lee Myung-bak inauguration (1).jpg"

61.82.124.147 (talk) 07:00, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Never mind.. Current one looks the best..24.71.249.70 (talk) 22:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

"Mayor of Seoul" section

This seems to contain an error:

"The site was a natural stream in pre-industrial times; Lee had been personally responsible for the constructing a highway over the stream, which caused environmental damage."

The highway was built in 1968, three years after Lee had joined Hyundai and 24 years before he entered politics. It's possible, but seems unlikely that he was personally responsible for the highway. Could this be checked out? If it's true, an elaboration might be nice, as in "...in his capacity at Hyundai, he had been personally responsible..."---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremy56 (talk • contribs) 10:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality Dispute

I have added the neutrality message. The reason is that while I don't have a problem with the "criticisms" section, a lot of it is written in a first person-ish form. The tone is dripping with bias plus there are no citations or even "citation needed" signs. I can understand many people feel strongly about this, but I think there can be a compromise where people can still have all the criticisms but they just word it differently so it fits with Wiki's guidelines, just the subsitution of "accused of" instead of "is" would be a big difference. I really don't have the stomach for edit wars so I won't be checking up on this, do what you will but hopefully this will spur some discussion. Jenny Ice Cream (talk) 07:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Unprofessional writing

The third paragraph in "Early life and education" seems unprofessional. "By the time he'd left elementary school, he'd done every job possible," is an example. Also, I have not read his book, but if anyone has, shortly stating the various jobs he undertook in one sentence would be appropriate. DnL7up (talk) 09:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

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can someone point out how putting his previous name is a BLP violation?

It is relevant, it is notable - at the moment I consider the removal of his previous name to be vandalism, and I shall act accordingly unless someone can explain how it violates BLP.

Melon..and CB please explain your actions. Sennen goroshi (talk) 06:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, I have contact Caspian Blue twice in regards to this talk page - however he just removes my talk message and complains about something - therefore I will leave this topic here and if there have been no constructive responses, then I will assume as per wikipedia silence that consensus has been reached. Sennen goroshi (talk) 07:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

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