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::::Disputes between admins, in my view at least, are far bigger than the capacity of the Mediation Committee. This seems like a matter for the community. --] (]) 22:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC) ::::Disputes between admins, in my view at least, are far bigger than the capacity of the Mediation Committee. This seems like a matter for the community. --] (]) 22:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::::MedCom is for addressing content disputes. The complaint here is that FT2 ought to be disqualified as Arbitrator by virtue of recent statements that fudged the truth. As I understand the rules, only Jimbo can remove him from the committee. The other committee members have a voice of course, and if there was a consensus among the other members of Arbcom to remove him, Jimbo would be a fool to ignore it. I have no complaints at this time with Arbcom's handling of the matter, the 10 new arbitrators need time to get up to speed and it is somewhat unfair to saddle them on week one with a messy personnel matter left over from the previous committee. The community can press for FT2's resignation as well, but has no power to enforce it, other than by shunning him and ignoring anything he tries to do in the committee's name. ] 22:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC) ::::MedCom is for addressing content disputes. The complaint here is that FT2 ought to be disqualified as Arbitrator by virtue of recent statements that fudged the truth. As I understand the rules, only Jimbo can remove him from the committee. The other committee members have a voice of course, and if there was a consensus among the other members of Arbcom to remove him, Jimbo would be a fool to ignore it. I have no complaints at this time with Arbcom's handling of the matter, the 10 new arbitrators need time to get up to speed and it is somewhat unfair to saddle them on week one with a messy personnel matter left over from the previous committee. The community can press for FT2's resignation as well, but has no power to enforce it, other than by shunning him and ignoring anything he tries to do in the committee's name. ] 22:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Without commenting on FT2, I would like to say that your action was the most clear-cut case of adminship abuse I have ever seen. --] (]) 01:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


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Thank you

I just saw your kindly defence of me here what a joy to see that. The other customary accusations of eating babies, puppies, kittens and the black magic sacrifices I make before releasing a page into mainspace I can live with. Even the voodoo curses I enact on admins who block me - all true, but you my sweet spotted the lie. Thank you so much.

Love. Giano (talk) 15:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, well, probably everybody spotted it and nobody else thought it worth refuting.. I was promptly advised on IRC against having a battle of wits with an unarmed man woman, by a user who is something of an expert on that subject, so I think I'll merely ignore if I see any more attacks on that kind of level. Bishonen | talk 15:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC).

Can Zilla come play?

Snow needed at talk:David Irving#Proposed move ϢereSpielChequers 17:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, Zilla isn't used to closing stuff, she doesn't know from the right templates and stuff. And she tends to get overenthusiastic with the roaring when she tries. I've given my opinion.. Sorry to be so useless on the closing front, and I hope you won't have any trouble locating another uninvolved admin. Bishonen | talk 17:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC).
No problem, User:Trusilver turned out to be a worthy Rouge admin and snowed it forthwith. I guess some of the fiddlier templates must be difficult to manipulate when you're 80 foot tall. ϢereSpielChequers 18:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Zilla forever waiting for her nail polish to dry these days, too. Bishonen | talk 21:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC).

SlimVirgin

Hiya Bishonen. It would've been cool, to have had my comments responded to by SlimVirgin herself (as they were meant for her). Anyways, I've scratched them out. Jeepers, I didn't wanna see her getting blocked either, ya know. Ya'll should learn to relax a little. GoodDay (talk) 20:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Having taken some deep breaths, I realize you probably meant well. I'm sorry I let the way you expressed yourself get under my skin. Bishonen | talk 20:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC).
No prob, I'm cool. GoodDay (talk) 20:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Not surprised your cool, with that hat you have been taking off all over the place today. Giano (talk) 20:30, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I've got alot of hats. I only hope I can remember where I left them. GoodDay (talk) 20:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

User talk pages with the most edits

As of October 2008. Dragons flight (talk) 21:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

1 OrphanBot 34634
2 Jimbo Wales 26347
3 SandyGeorgia 13766
4 Alison 13295
5 Raul654 13006
6 Bishonen 12621
7 Tony Sidaway 12135
8 RickK 11578
9 Durova 10407
10 Keeper76 10114
Beware L'esprit de la Comtesse de Burgh...whooohooohoooschreeeeeeeeeechc Giano (talk) 22:33, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Is little Lady! Come sit in Spiderman suit pocket Lady C! Incidentally 'Zilla talkpage superior. Discriminating little users watch! bishzilla ROARR!! 23:23, 27 November 2008 (UTC).


Thanks for watching out for me

It's nice to know others keep an eye :-). However, as it turns out, that charming IP editor is a longtime unregistered contributor who I suspect most admins would recognise under his old IP of 68.39.174.238. His dumb ISP caused a forced "rename" last week, so now he doesn't have his 23,000-edit history attached anymore. Poor guy, now all the hugglers and twinklers are going to start calling his edits "vandalism" again; I think the software programmers had put his old IP on the "ignore" list. Thanks again. Risker (talk) 01:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Sleep

No.--Tznkai (talk) 16:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:CIV

Please keep WP:CIV in mind when interacting with other editors. Being rude gets you nowhere, and won't convince anyone of your point of view. It does add blatherskite to people's vocabularies, granted, but that is hardly sufficient compensation for the ill will it creates. --fvw* 04:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh shut up. Bishonen | talk 05:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
"Please keep WP:CIV in mind when interacting with other editors. Being rude gets you nowhere, and won't convince anyone of your point of view." Irony! --Akhilleus (talk) 04:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Nasty

No need for nasty comments. I have barely poked my nose into this place for months and when I do it is all strangely familiar. I see no need for you to rebuke me for a comment I have already apologized for. The very criticism you bring towards my comments could just as readily be applied to your comment towards me. I have not been here for weeks, and when I show up there you are to criticize me. I notice I am not the only person you have told to shut up. Chillum 06:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, go away. Bishonen | talk 08:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC).

Damn it!

I was hoping Bishzilla would show up at G's page, to breathe fire on Fred, but alas, the ever rational Bishonen came in her stead... D.D.J.Jameson 22:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. Bishzilla is a bit down in the dumps because you haven't voted for her, HINT HINT. Bishonen | talk 22:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC).
An unforgivable oversight on my part, now remedied... D.D.J.Jameson 23:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
All cheered up!
Yes, I rather hoped that would happen too, but thanks to woever it was who removed Fred. I suppose the ld Arbs must find the election results upsetting - we must make allowances for them during this difficult time of change. Giano

In agreement

Thanks Bishonen for removing my comments. GoodDay (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Err ya missed one, but I took care of it. GoodDay (talk) 22:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Competence required?? hey wait a sec; giggle giggle. GoodDay (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Drawing a blank

No ec - all your's I'm done for now. As to blanking I've had a bit of a quiet strop. See Risker's talk for Englishman about to blow (always hilarious I'm told, so I've refrained). --Joopercoopers (talk) 20:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The seemingly infinite voting delay re Peter Damian has emptied-out any slightest expectation of decency from the committee that I ever harbored. Come back in January, Joop. Bishonen | talk 20:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC).
There is some decency on the arbcom, it is just outnumbered and overpowered by the non-decent. I'm afraid not enough of the non-decent ones are leaving in January to make a difference, however. By the way, I'm still looking for a great disaster to write about, but haven't come up with one "big" enough. Have you had any thoughts along those lines? Tex (talk) 20:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Johnstown Flood and the poem written about it, which is a greater disaster. Cripple Creek and it's massive disaster? I'm sure the Canadians have been all over the Halifax explosion as a matter of national pride. Utgard Loki (talk) 20:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Sure, I know there are decent people on it. It would be odd if there weren't. I was referring to the low expectation of decency from the committee acting as a body. As for disasters, I've been thinking of August Strindberg's wives—walking disasters, every last one of them. ;-) (And Strindberg himself was a bit worse.) Or how about picking one from the List of historic fires? Lots of choice there. Bishonen | talk 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC).
I would recommend the Boston Molasses Disaster, but it's been done. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Been on the front page, I recollect. Bishonen | talk 20:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC).
Not sure about the front page, as it isn't in the article's milestones, but it could well be from before the day such records were kept. It is, however, a former good article, which means there's lots of good stuff there but it needs to be massaged, polished, and improved. This could well be a good choice for you, Tex. Risker (talk) 20:54, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it was a long time ago, that's why I thought it worth mentioning. Nowadays a soujourn on the front page is always made clear on the talkpage, but that didn't use to be the case. Utgard, I saw a Discovery Channel feature, I think it was, about the Halifax disaster, which I remember as being very informative. It might be worth Tex's while to get hold of that. Bishonen | talk 21:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC).
Wow, all the choices! Imagine drowning in molasses...What a hoot that would be! And Utgard's idea of Cripple Creek interests me as well. I love the whole "old west" culture and assuming the gold mine scuffle is what you are referring to, that might be something. The list of historic fires reminded me of the Great Seattle Fire. That article doesn't do the disaster justice. I visited the Seattle Underground when I was out there last year and that was really cool. Fixing up the fire page would be an interesting project. Great, I went from having no ideas to having too many! Tex (talk) 21:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Carolean Masques

Channeling Giano "Hang on I remember writing some red links for Bishonen years ago about Carolean drama, I think Jones may have designed fantastical sets with moving scenery, or was that someone else - Bishonen will rememeber." I'm pretty sure that's on the money - wasn't he in with Johnson 1600-1613ish? The threads on G's talk under copyediting. --Joopercoopers (talk) 00:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks

Thanks Peter Damian (talk) 08:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems like shouting into a black hole, unfortunately! :-( Bishonen | talk 20:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC).

Tahk-sow-mick-et

Thanks for your comments concerning the Montana-dispute.

Hyvää joulua!

Peter 18:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Caught sight of that stuff accidentally—blev så förbannad..! Bishonen | talk 20:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC).

Hi from hidey and seasonsmiles!

Love, 13:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


Aw, hun-neee! Bishonen 21:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC).


Happy holiday

Oh mighty one, please have a happy holiday. And, if you don't mind - could you pass on the well wishes to the even scarier ones (aka Zilla and, gasp, Giano). :) Ottava Rima (talk) 05:22, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Mighty 'shonen consents to having happy holidays, graciously wishes some in return. 'Zilla friendly user, heart of gold, only curl little users' hair lightly with deathray these days! But mighty Giano very scary, aye.. will leave wishes on doorstep and run ! Bishonen | talk 06:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC).


Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 06:23, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Christmas plushy for Guettarda from Little Stupid
A Happy Darwin200 Year!


And a happy new year to all

Happy New Year! Nice fireworks!--MONGO 15:13, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Hiya Bigfoot! Bishonen | talk 18:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC).

Vocabulary

I have expanded my vocabulary to include the word petulant. See how I have used it. Jehochman 05:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

...and HAPPY NEW YEAR! Jehochman 05:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Mhm. You still have the same dumb subheader, I see. And your second point is.. wait while I consult Bishzilla's sekrit thesaurus.. it's petty, niggling, trivial, mean, and mickey mouse. (He misuses noticeboards? And?) Admittedly your evidence isn't peevish, spiteful, and trifling on the same scale as Seicer's, but then I wouldn't have expected it to be. Happy new year! Bishonen | talk 08:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC).
Oh, please! "Petulant" is not exclusive. I have heard sages become petulant over etymology and children speak maturely on ontology. We can all be petulant, if we try. I, myself, plan to be quite petulant in the near future. I'm going off to a singles bar, and I'm going to hold my breath until the woman I choose goes home with me. It ought to work at least as well as my previous strategy of looking mysterious and dangerous. Utgard Loki (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear hostess, if you are not feeling too petulant, could you give Gamma-ray burst a quick read? I am sending it to WP:FAC sooner or later. Jehochman 07:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Hmm. Not sure about the petulance. I've done a very light hostessy copyedit. Bishonen | talk 13:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC).
P.S. Justanother points out that Bishzilla's thesaurus ought to be spelled the-saurus. :-) Bishonen | talk 13:13, 5 January 2009 (UTC).
Thank you. *Jehochman places a plate of his wife's home-baked chocolate muffins on a coffee table, and nibbles on one.* Jehochman 13:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
The man in question. His fruit is beautifully arranged.
  • Utgard Loki, speaking of techniques that work...I'm writing a page featuring a guy who sweeps the girls off their feet by being a disreputable radical; scandalous; at the height of his creative powers at age 51; highly susceptible to strong, independent women; and a man of domestic tastes. He invited pretty young women of character to his bachelor establishment, where he spoke courteously and paternally to them, and treated them to beautifully arranged fruit and flowers. I'm not saying it's the only way... but it worked all right, they were fascinated. If you survive the holding-your-breath-until method, you might try that next! Bishonen | talk 17:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC).
Beautifully arranged fruit? First time I've heard of that being the way to a woman's heart. Yomangani 17:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Yo-maman so fat! Little Stupid (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC).
You sure popped up fast at that edit summary, Yomangani; use your imagination !! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC) (who is going to stalk Bish's contribs now to see this article).
Peaches? Uhhh. I can't think of many others. Arranging fruits tastefully.... You know, I think going to singles bars in a rented Mercedes and a bag over my head probably has a higher chance of success for me. I've just been adding Tom Jones references various places, because I read an article. This is what I do with my spare time, but it's better than musing about ontology or oopherology. Utgard Loki (talk) 18:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
You have a literal mind, Loki. I was thinking you might want to try the disreputable and scandalous, combined with the domestic tastes. (I wonder if that meant watching a lot of cable?) Fascinating mix.. Bishonen | talk 20:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC).

Heads up

Hi, just letting you know (as you edited Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Mattisse 3) that it has gawn live. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

"Unabridged"

This Barnstar of Humor is awarded to Bishonen for Best Use of the Word "Unabridged" in a sentence . Thatcher 16:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Bishonen | talk 17:24, 7 January 2009 (UTC).

Talking of humour - how witty you have become - I've spotted Flo, Risker and I suspect a couple more, but I'm having a bit of a problem with Brad and one or two of the bigger footed others though. However, it is Carabosse I want to find. Giano (talk) 17:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

E-mail, female

A question via e-mail, and I'd like your feedback. I don't want to get in a fight with Martin Battestin, but I have a bone to pick. Geogre (talk) 18:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, response to your comment

I responded to your comment on my talk page. Thanks, and I hope you will look at some of the obvios proposals that need serious comments to them. You'll see them with even just scanning the page! Most of the proposals have real long names and new words defined. Thanks again for your comments, --CrohnieGal 16:56, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Questionable decisions

You are aware with blocking an arbitrator can cause? This, no offense to you, is the ultimate drama causer. You are aware that there is an ANI thread? As an administrator, I see this as a highly immature decision, rather than discussing it beforehand. I suggest you highly think next time before you make such a rash decision. Personally, I can tell you now, the Arbitration Committee will not like this.Mitch32 21:46, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

They won't? Ooh, I'm scared. Bishonen | talk 21:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC).
The Arbitration Committee have had their chance to address this matter, their likes and dislikes are neither here nor there - the project is what is important - as I'm sure you will agree. Giano (talk) 21:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
What Bishonen did was to take a pot of pudding that was on a slow simmer and apply a blowtorch to it. It might get the pudding cooked faster, but it also might result in a scorched and inedible mess. Thatcher 21:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe this matter needs to be put to a community vote. The committee not competent to judge their own members. Jehochman 21:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
No offense, but is that supposed to be mocking ArbCom? They are the high court, and their decisions are important to Misplaced Pages. As per Giano, yes the project is important, yet there are certain things impeding that, such as something like this and previous cases. Being a supporter of anti-block, I am against the type of situations these cause, and prefer the thought that we should work on solving it. There are times where it just isn't possible. Yet, I do believe this is one for mediation or something. I don't think ArbCom is the place to solve this, like has been recently for other cases.Mitch32 21:54, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Well the committee should not have to judge its own members. Wales has few roles, this is one where even a constitutional monarch is allowed to step in, but ours seems to be on a yacht in the Riviera, rather than seated on his throne. Giano (talk) 21:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I am not pertaining towards Jimbo in this situation, I would like to see this taken to the Mediation Committee, where it can be solved thoroughly.Mitch32 22:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Disputes between admins, in my view at least, are far bigger than the capacity of the Mediation Committee. This seems like a matter for the community. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
MedCom is for addressing content disputes. The complaint here is that FT2 ought to be disqualified as Arbitrator by virtue of recent statements that fudged the truth. As I understand the rules, only Jimbo can remove him from the committee. The other committee members have a voice of course, and if there was a consensus among the other members of Arbcom to remove him, Jimbo would be a fool to ignore it. I have no complaints at this time with Arbcom's handling of the matter, the 10 new arbitrators need time to get up to speed and it is somewhat unfair to saddle them on week one with a messy personnel matter left over from the previous committee. The community can press for FT2's resignation as well, but has no power to enforce it, other than by shunning him and ignoring anything he tries to do in the committee's name. Thatcher 22:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Without commenting on FT2, I would like to say that your action was the most clear-cut case of adminship abuse I have ever seen. --Apoc2400 (talk) 01:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear

I hope it's just a temporary neuro-linguistic failure. :-) Tom Harrison 22:04, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

RFAR

I have named you on your alternate account at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Biszilla. You may wish to make a statement. Durova 22:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)