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Hey Ellol, thanks for bluelinking some of those redlinks. I got a phone call today with some unexpected news; a friend calls me telling me to pack my bags, he managed to get us some cheap-arsed tickets to ] (Краби), and left it until today to tell me. We leave tomorrow for a week's R&R in glorious Thailand, so I won't be around (obviously). With the hero's list, I will leave ] there if you need to make any changes and the like. Catch you in a week, I'll buzz ya when I return. Cheers, --] <sup>]</sup> 05:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC) Hey Ellol, thanks for bluelinking some of those redlinks. I got a phone call today with some unexpected news; a friend calls me telling me to pack my bags, he managed to get us some cheap-arsed tickets to ] (Краби), and left it until today to tell me. We leave tomorrow for a week's R&R in glorious Thailand, so I won't be around (obviously). With the hero's list, I will leave ] there if you need to make any changes and the like. Catch you in a week, I'll buzz ya when I return. Cheers, --] <sup>]</sup> 05:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:Have a nice vacation! :-) ] (]) 17:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC) :Have a nice vacation! :-) ] (]) 17:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== ] ==

You contacted me about having removed a quotation by ]. In case you did not notice my comment on the edit, I wrote: "Removed quoted rebuttal as ]." In other words, I was concerned that by giving a name, title, and verbatim quote to a government spokesman (Aliyev), we were straying (unintentionally, I am sure) from a neutral point of view.

You stated that Timur Aliyev is "an important source" and "a notable person." Aliyev's notability is not at issue here, as this article is not about him. Because he was speaking as a representative of President Kadyrov, and not on his own authority, I consider it unnecessary to identify him more specifically — much less to specify that he was speaking "by telephone from Grozny." That kind of detail is appropriate to a news story or blog post, but not to an encyclopedia article.

I am concerned that you accused me of "inappropriate behaviour." I acted in good faith, and it would be unkind of you to assume otherwise without cause.

I hope I have addressed your concerns about this article. If not, I will be glad to discuss this further at ]. — ] ''alias'' ] 22:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

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Web brigades....again

I think you may want to look at web brigades. The article owner has again reinserted all that information which is not relevant to this Russian conspiracy theory, and now User:Martintg is playing the team game by claiming consensus and reinserting said info again. What do you think? Is it about time this piece of rubbish article is taken to AfD, and have this thrashed out for once and for all, because the entire thing is based upon the views of a single nutcase reporter. Anyway, your views on this are welcome on the article talk page, as it seems this is going to happen every other month when the owner of the article decides to re-include everything again. --Russavia 01:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Heroes

Hey Ellol, thanks for bluelinking some of those redlinks. I got a phone call today with some unexpected news; a friend calls me telling me to pack my bags, he managed to get us some cheap-arsed tickets to Krabi (Краби), and left it until today to tell me. We leave tomorrow for a week's R&R in glorious Thailand, so I won't be around (obviously). With the hero's list, I will leave User:Russavia/Hero there if you need to make any changes and the like. Catch you in a week, I'll buzz ya when I return. Cheers, --Russavia 05:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Have a nice vacation! :-) ellol (talk) 17:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Umar Israilov

You contacted me about having removed a quotation by Timur Aliyev. In case you did not notice my comment on the edit, I wrote: "Removed quoted rebuttal as WP:UNDUE." In other words, I was concerned that by giving a name, title, and verbatim quote to a government spokesman (Aliyev), we were straying (unintentionally, I am sure) from a neutral point of view.

You stated that Timur Aliyev is "an important source" and "a notable person." Aliyev's notability is not at issue here, as this article is not about him. Because he was speaking as a representative of President Kadyrov, and not on his own authority, I consider it unnecessary to identify him more specifically — much less to specify that he was speaking "by telephone from Grozny." That kind of detail is appropriate to a news story or blog post, but not to an encyclopedia article.

I am concerned that you accused me of "inappropriate behaviour." I acted in good faith, and it would be unkind of you to assume otherwise without cause.

I hope I have addressed your concerns about this article. If not, I will be glad to discuss this further at Talk:Umar Israilov. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 22:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC)