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== Areas of contention number 5 - Border killing == | |||
Number 5 states border killing "of Indian people". Living in the Bangladeshi side of the border, I find no evidence of our border forces killing Indians; on the contrary, Indians have killed over a hundred people over the past 5 years (or sth along those lines, forgot the stat, but can be found online). | |||
Hence, I question the POV, and propose the section to be edited. ] (]) 10:11, 29 March 2011 (UTC) |
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The section on "Areas of Dispute" in "India-Bangladesh Relations" is highly disputable, and clearly written from a mainstream Indian perspective. Further, it is loaded with uncorroborated facts and does not give any substantive information for the readers except that India is victimised by its 'peripheral' neighbours. It says ultra-leftist pro-Chinese groups were supporting Zia-ur Rahman, but who were they? "Ultra-leftism" in South Asia generally means adhering to Maoism or Mao-tse-tung thought, and at the time Rahman stabilised his rule, China had discarded Mao; so it is likely that the socalled "ultra-leftists" rejected the new Chinese direction as in India. Secondly, the article talks about "anti-India forces" and "illegal immigrants" which are evidently diplomatic rhetorics used by India against its neighbours. Thirdly, who has testified that "every day around 6,000 immigrants cross over into India" from Bangladesh? It is not only a hillarious piece of statistics, but it is a clear evidence of anti-immigrant perception of the writer. And who else can see Anti-India Pakistani ISI hand in every bilateral or international disputes in South Asia (as the writer evidently does) but a non-neutral Indian chauvinist? I think the article should be deleted or written with more informative and clear-headed manner, as bilateral issues are always very sensitive ones. The writer must accomodate the perspectives of all parties involved in the disputes. Pchandra 15:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- I tried to neutralize the subject of disputation. I don't have more information than what was present in the article, hence, I tried to reword or eliminate unsubstantiated points of contention. If you feel it is still POV, you are free to discuss or edit. AshishG03:11, December 27, 2024 (UTC).
Hi. I only have a concern about one thing in this article. It's the line which states that "20,000" Indian soldiers died for the cause of a free Bangladesh. As a Bangladeshi myself (albeit one now living in England)I am delighted India came steaming in to bail us out in '71. But I'm very dubious about the assertion that they lost 20,000 killed. I've always understood the figure was much lower. The Misplaced Pages entry on the Bangladesh Liberation War puts Indian military fatalities at 1,426 (or a possible unofficial maximum of 1,525). Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.138.98.253 (talk) 12:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Move?
This should probably be titled India-Bangladesh relations. NickelShoe 00:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Agree. I moved. AshishG 06:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
comments on POV
I removed the following point from the "Areas of dispute" section:
- In 1975, Mujibur Rahman was assassinated and in his place, a staunch anti-India leader, General Zia-Ur-Rehman assumed power. He was supported by reactionary communal forces which were opposed to Bangladesh’s independence as well as by local communist groups which were highly critical of expansionist Indian policies. Initially he received support from Western powers and China and projected India as Bangladesh’s enemy in international arena. During this period, bilateral relations became complicated and hostile.
This point is very POV. First of all, there is no proof that Zia was a "staunch anti-India leader". After all, he took initiatives that resulted in the founding of SAARC. Next, it is also POV to say that Zia "projected India as Bangladesh's enemey in international arena". Finally, to say that Zia was supported by "Reactionary communal forces" is not entirely correct. Zia did allow a section of them to return to politics, but at the same time, Zia was a decorated Freedom fighter too.
Anyway, I looked into the previous comments, and the section on disputes did look something from an Indian perspective. Right now, it has become better, but would need more editing to make it neutral. I'd try to do some when I have time. Thanks. --Ragib 06:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
great leader
I don't think an expression such as "great leader" has anything to do in this article. It is for everyone to appreciate whether a leader is great or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.57.186.38 (talk) 20:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Border violation
The latest edition into the contention issue is the killing of 59 by the security forces of India of which 34 Bangladeshis and 21 are Indians. They are smugglers and illegal immigrants. Ragib, India said this and there is no admitting of anything. Smugglers will be shot dead and I don't think Bangladesh will be concerned and this is an issue for the Bangladesh government. Hopes that the Bangladesh government is not siding with smugglers. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 14:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Comments on map
The map is pretty bad, shows borders of both countries badly. Also, there are some capital city markers lying on the map, the ones that has nothing to do with the article.--GDibyendu (talk) 17:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Areas of contention number 5 - Border killing
Number 5 states border killing "of Indian people". Living in the Bangladeshi side of the border, I find no evidence of our border forces killing Indians; on the contrary, Indians have killed over a hundred people over the past 5 years (or sth along those lines, forgot the stat, but can be found online).
Hence, I question the POV, and propose the section to be edited. Ratibgreat (talk) 10:11, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
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