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Trivia

This section lacks citations and need to be converted to proper prose and integrated back into the article. Until then, I have placed this section here.--J.D. (talk) 17:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

• Bill Paxton, Jenette Goldstein, and Lance Henriksen all appeared in Aliens, which was directed by James Cameron. All three actors were cast in Near Dark separately, without knowing that they were all auditioning for the same movie for the second time. In one scene, Caleb passes a cinema in which Aliens is screening. Also appearing in a bar scene of the film and further connecting the film to James Cameron was Robert Winley, who later played the cigar-smoking biker ("you forgot to say please") in the bar scene of Cameron's Terminator 2: Judgment Day.

• On the DVD interviews, Lance Henriksen and Bill Paxton explained the lengths to which they went to develop their characters. Among other things, Henriksen constructed an elaborate backstory involving Jesse's service in the Confederate States Navy. This is alluded to in the film when Jesse slyly mentions that he fought for the South and "we lost". Paxton also alludes to the two being responsible for the Great Chicago Fire of 1871.

• Henriksen decided that Jesse should appear emaciated; he accordingly lost so much weight to fit the image that he lost much of his muscle tone, and threw his back out while climbing the stairs of his house.

• Despite being about vampires, the word vampire is never uttered in the film.

• Eric Red has mentioned in a recent interview that he had plans for a sequel that took place 15 years after Near Dark, following Sarah fighting relatives of the vampire 'family' from the first film.

• This film was #64 on Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments.

• The film appears to be the subject of a remake, according to the production blog of Platinum Dunes (responsible for recent Amityville Horror, Texas Chainsaw, and Hitcher remakes.)

• A few scenes of violence were trimmed in order to avoid an "X" rating, namely the scenes where Homer kills the man who helps him off the ground, when Mae kills the truck driver, and when Diamondback slits the barmaid's throat.

Remake?

Looks like there is a remake in the works. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  - 13:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Commenting on size of plot which appears to be in dispute

I'd go with the bigger size myself. I feel that there would be enough commentary to expand critique/themes/cast gossip or whatever so that the total size of the article is over double the size of the larger plot. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

PS: I will try to find some commentary in some books at home. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Per WP:MOSFILM, it should be around 400-700 words. It is currently 876, so it is not that bad, though getting it closer to 400-600 would be better (and a needed step for higher class ratings). Mostly it seems like it just needs tightening up of the prose, with some minor details removed. As such, the current longer plot should stay until it can be edited down, rather than ripping it out to leave a useless stub space. I'd also recommend just moving the cast members into the plot for now. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

OK, I was able to trim some without too much trouble. Now for the lead and other stuff to add later. 'Twas a cool film :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

It's actually one of my favorite vampire films. I thinkt he plot could be trimmed down quite a bit, but stomping the entire plot in protest seems extreme. - Arcayne () 19:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Apparently this guy is on some kind of rampage...he's doing this to a bunch of film articles, as well as some play and short stories, just ripping out entire plot sections irregardless of length. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, the matter is resolved, at least for 24 hours. If you feel the issue extends to other articles, you might need to present sequential DIFFs, so as to indicate a pattern. Maybe he's just having a bad day. - Arcayne () 19:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

After reading his ArbCom injunction...I'd say its a long long time issue and that he'll start back up as soon as the block is lifted, from his response to the block. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

And the block has now been lifted. Guess we can expect another rip out soon...-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Please go read ANI for all the comments pointing out that your interpretation of WP:NOT when it comes to plot summaries is completely wrong. I can't believe after all that you are still insisting you are right. And your comments on this page and elsewhere are a major violation of WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL.

Erm...wow. I knew there was something else to do, get the books on commentary. Ah well, this kerfuffl on my watchlist reminded me so it was good for something. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, let's keep calm; maybe things will improve without any further kerfuffle. :) - Arcayne () 03:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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