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Please don't change "At bat" to "at-bat". "At-bat" just redirects right back to ] anyway. -] (]) 17:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

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Rafael Batista

Helllo. You can check at . Cheers MusiCitizen (talk) 16:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Links

Look, I am not going to revert you again, but why do you remove the links, yes I know that it says not to at Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style, but you remove every single one on the article until there is only one. No, I do not follow your edits I have over 1,000 baseball articles on my watchlist and check it every day, I hardly ever revert your edits anyway so I dont know why you assume I do follow you. I know you follow mine because you make an edit to an article that I edited right after I do, and it gets annoying, so please stop.--Yankees10 02:17, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

How does it annoy you? People are constantly editing articles after you. How do you know we don't have some of the same articles on each of our watchlists? Jackal4 (talk) 03:08, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah we could, but I still believe that you follow my edits, because it happens all the time--Yankees10 05:37, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Roger Clemens

A friendly warning: you are coming precariously close to a violation of WP:3RR over at the Clemens page, and possibly others in which you're involved in disputes with that IceFrappe fellow. You might want to ease up before it turns into a full-blown edit war. -Dewelar (talk) 17:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured I was close. I'm not reverting him anymore, just going to try to get an admin to do something about it. Jackal4 (talk) 17:17, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
That's probably a good idea. He doesn't seem to be doing anything constructive at this point. -Dewelar (talk) 17:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

infobox situation

Can you give your input about the retired infobox troubles here:Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Baseball#Reggie Sanders--Yankees10 04:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

It would be appreciated if you at least responded and tried to help the situation--Yankees10 17:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
What do you want me to say? That I support you and think these players' infoboxes should be retired. Jackal4 (talk) 21:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
You can say whatever you want, it just would be nice for you to say what you think considering you were one of the ones involved in the dispute from the beginning. What I meant by you responding is if you could have left a message saying you do or dont want to and not just ignoring it just because I left the message--Yankees10 00:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
I didn't ignore the discussion because you left the message, I ignored the discussion because I didn't think I could add anything to it. Half of the discussion there now was already there the first time I saw it and you've already argued my point. All I would do is bring the number of users who think the infoboxes should be retired to two. Jackal4 (talk) 14:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I didnt mean responding to the discussion I meant responding to my post, I thought you didnt respond because of the problems we had, but it doesnt really matter anyway, this issue is most likely going to die anyway and I am going to change the infoboxes back after a few months considering some of the guys would be out of baseball for nearly two years, and to say they are going to get signed and are not retired is ridiculous, by the way I support you with the Ryan Braun issue I dont know what the user is doing--Yankees10 23:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh my bad. I just left him a message on his talk page. I don't know how he can argue that birthplace shouldn't be in Braun's infobox. Jackal4 (talk) 23:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Did you also notice that he unnecessarily removed the link to Ryan Braun (pitcher) at the top, I wonder what his explanation for that is--Yankees10 00:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't even notice it was missing. Jackal4 (talk) 00:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Infoboxes

I didnt know there was a discussion about it, I just removed it because I have seen edits of them being removed. Personally I think they should be there. By the way they are thinking about merging the active and retired infobox. I personally HATE this idea, what do you think?--Yankees10 23:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Im thinking about starting a vote on what we should do that goes along with the discussion, would you vote?--Yankees10 23:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Alright thanks, I'll tell you when I open it, It will probably be on saturday.--Yankees10 00:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Im not going to open the vote because people are saying Support or Against, can you say you are against it or not at the discussion.--Yankees10 23:42, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Placement of the Lifetime template

The reason I've been moving this template to the bottom of articles is this line from the documentation:

Since Categories are preferred to be listed in most-common order, the Lifetime template should generally be placed after the last Category tag

-Dewelar (talk) 21:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

MLB retired

Please stop using the MLB retired infobox when creating new player pages. The template has been deleted and the page just redirects to the MLB player infobox now. Thanks! -Dewelar (talk) 11:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Brian Esposito

Do you have a source on his status? The minor league roster page (which may be out of date, for all I know) still lists him with the Drillers. Mackensen (talk) 23:03, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Jackal4 (talk) 05:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. Mackensen (talk) 14:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Esix Snead

Updated DYK query On 5 January, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Esix Snead, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 09:32, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Tim Redding

Hey Jackal, thanks for the help at the article. I noticed this little change you made in the lede. Let me explain why I think the previous version was better. Most people reading the article know that he's a baseball player and know what Major League Baseball is. However, when creating an article we must have in mind the person who knows nothing about baseball or the Major League's. So I feel it's important that the lede not open up with "Major League Baseball" player but the more simplified "baseball player". Do you agree? --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 18:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't. If he was just a professional baseball player he wouldn't be notable enough to have an article. He has an article because he plays Major League Baseball, a major league. Jackal4 (talk) 22:43, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey Jackal, thanks for responding. What you're saying regarding his notability is 100% true. However, there's no reason to have the claim to notability thrown at the reader in the first sentence of the article. It's more important that the information be given to the reader in a more lucid and simplified manner. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 22:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Jimmy Scott interview

I am a new Misplaced Pages editor trying to link some baseball player articles to their interviews on another web site. I was wondering why you deleted the references/links?Brfallon (talk) 01:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Baseball players give countless numbers of interviews during their lives. One interview isn't notable enough to be included in articles. Jackal4 (talk) 01:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Freddy Garcia

Hey Jackal, I know you're having problems with User:Eugene Krabs, but you can't just revert every edit he makes, especially if his edits improve the article. Your version that you keep on reverting has a malfunctioned infobox. Thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 17:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm reverting everything he vandalizes. What is wrong with the infobox? It looks fine. Jackal4 (talk) 17:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that's a great idea, but he's not vandalizing the Freddy Garcia article. Look closely at your infobox and his infobox. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 17:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
That's better. I really don't care either way, but his version is as acceptable as yours. In any case, his version is for sure not vandalism. If he reverts you would have to leave it alone (for a while anyway) because your next revert will put you over 3rr. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 18:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm just making them all consistent.Jackal4 (talk) 18:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Rob and Robert Ellis

Heh...Rob Ellis (outfielder) was one of the very first pages I created, before I even knew there was such a thing as WikiProject Baseball, much less naming conventions for it. At the time, my first instinct was to do what you suggested, but given what I've seen, I think it might be more appropriate to move that page to Rob Ellis (baseball) and leave Robert Ellis (baseball) where it is. Feel free to bring it up over at the project talk page, though. -Dewelar (talk) 21:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Bobby Abreu

Please explain to me why you reverted the edit. The source I cited from MLB.com clearly states, "The Angels and free agent outfielder Bobby Abreu have struck a one-year agreement, according to a report by SI.com." I don't understand where there is any room for doubt or confusion here. MrShamrock (talk) 02:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

For the same reason JSRG32 did. If the deal is still pending a physical, then there is no way the signing is official. Jackal4 (talk) 02:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Please show me where in that article it says anything about pending a physical. MrShamrock (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
It doesn't, but this does. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3899641 Jackal4 (talk) 02:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Korean baseball players

Re your message: According to the Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (Korean): Unless the subject is known to prefer otherwise, family name should be written first. So Bong Jung-Keun and Koo Dae-Sung is the correct names for the articles. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:41, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

At bat

Please don't change "At bat" to "at-bat". "At-bat" just redirects right back to at bat anyway. -Dewelar (talk) 17:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)