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I have RVed the tagging to interceptor. I think I know what you were trying to say from the checkin note, but the article seems very balanced to me. Most of the sections lead off with an example from the USSR.

Maury 22:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Movie camera

No, I don't use a movie camera. Sorry. :( [[User:Nishkid64|Nish<span styl

Status?

Could you please clarify what you mean? Jmlk17 03:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Please reply on my talk page. Jmlk17 03:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

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Pl. see Misplaced Pages:Featured lists so that you can chip in with the article President of Pakistan to make it one. Also requested a peer review. --Idleguy 01:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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Karachi riots

Yousaf, I haven't edited that article since we last spoke of it (at least a month ago). If you click the "history" tab on the page, you can see who made the Al Qaeda changed that you seem to think I made. Chantoke 11:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Wp pakistan

Hi Yousaf

Sorry for late answer, i was away,sure i will Help you,when ever you need it.Hope you are doing good in life. Khalidkhoso 13:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Lal Masjid

The reference you posted did not mention anything regarding the MMA's body count. Aside from that fact, the MMA is not a reputable organization and is known for exaggerating, and also, 800-1000 is an impossible total which does not even deserve consideration at this point. Afinebalance 05:29, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Please only post this claim ONCE you are able to reference it to an article that cites that number specifically. The article you have attached as a reference contradicts the MMA's claim and reports only between 86-102 casualties, which is why it's not accepted. Also, since this is an English article, the references should be English as well. Politically motivated numbers are absolutely unacceptable on Misplaced Pages. Afinebalance 05:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Then the Npov status of this article will be in doubts.I think those people who will be reading this article can also speak urdu!.The dawn reff was for Goverments claims.User talk:Yousaf465

Excuse me, do you understand how an encyclopedia works? The NPOV status of the article is lost when people begin to write things without referencing them, like you have. You cannot put the claim of 800-1000 claims as an official estimate at the top of the page when you use a government reference of 102. You can place it as a legitimate estimate once multiple news sources (especially non-Indian) are referring to it as a possible claim.

Also, the South Asian media itself is filled with corruption, hypocrisy and exaggeration, and most of them simply don't belong in a legitimate article. Half of the articles say "300 coffins" while Indian media have increased it to "800 coffins", and either of those may have been for precautionary measures. Hundreds of people have been taken to jail, and so on. Please don't bring this sensationlist style of news into this article, and wait until there are multiple and legitimate news sources and after all possible reasons have been elimated. Afinebalance 05:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

They made that ruling to keep journalists away from the hospital because you cannot save people's lives when you have dozens of brainless Pakistani reporters blocking ambulances and doctors from doing their jobs. It is difficult to hide 700 extra deaths in ambulances while the media watches along the road, and so on. You must wait for a final answer before reporting such garbage from anti-government people who don't have an education, otherwise feel free to apply as a reporter to ARY or GEO, which were an embarassment to Pakistan because of their reporting, just like most news agencies from our country. Afinebalance 05:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Pakistan Studies

Can you please take a look at the article and post your comments on this issue on the talkpage? It would be very appriciated.Thanks.-Vmrgrsergr 04:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Yousuf,

I hope we didn't get off two the wrong start. I love Pakistan and I love writing for Pakistan on wikipedia. You are more than welcome to contribute to Lal Masjid Siege infact you should but make you sure you don't interject your personal opinion when writing on wikipedia. Mercenary2k 05:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I could use your help on the casualties for the militants, students in the red mosque. See from July 3 to July 10 or something, 20-30 militant students were killed in clashes with the Army. When the Army raided, 90 or so militant students died. Can you find the proper references for the number of students that died prior to the attack ?

Thanks

Mercenary2k 06:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

ya

i am on line...why? Mercenary2k 04:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

already did. The article should be called Lal Masjid Siege because thats what it was. Calling it a tragedy is like calling the Virginia Tech Massacare a Tragedy or the Siege of Leningrad a Tragedy. Call it what it is. Mercenary2k 04:14, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, what do you mean? I dont understand the picture. Its a picture of a PIA planeMercenary2k 04:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

should i go ahead and post it on PIA wiki.User talk:Yousaf465

Go for it post the pic. As for calling the Lal Masjid Siege a tragedy. That still doesn't apply. Look at Moscow theatre hostage siege. The article calls it a siege even though it was Russian citizens vs Russian citizens even though the ethnicity were Chechen. So calling it a tragedy won't work. It should be called a Siege becuase that is what this was. Our brave Army against these cowardly terrorists. Mercenary2k 04:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Man people took the law into their own hands. They said they were planning suicide attacks. They were setting buildings on fire, they kidnapped people, they attacked the police and the army. The government gave them countless opportunities to surrender but they didn't. What else do you expect the government to do? I don't understand why you are siding with these terrorists who have killed hundreds of our brave soldiers. I really don't. If you hate Musharraf, then thats fine. But you can't support these people as they undermine the sovereignty of Pakistan.Mercenary2k 05:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Why is it evertime that a person goes against the Islamic Terrorists in Pakistan like the Lal Mosque goons, people like you blame the media for brainwashing me? I get my news from multiple sources and I have enough brains to make up my own mind. The Army did wait. It waited for 8 Days to let these people surrender. It send it countless religious, political people to persuade the people to surrender. It tried and tried but to no avail. People like you are always gonna come up with stupid conspiracy theories that the Zionist Mush under orders from his Jewish Masters ordered the attack, etc, etc, etc...Give it up. I have had countless debates on this issue. What angers me is that people like you don't support Pakistan, don't support our troops when they are fighting terrorists. I don't need to be in Pakistan to understand what is going on. I have been there enough times, to know the political climate of that country, as well as the going ons over there. The real situation was that a bunch of jihal maulvis took over a mosque started preaching hate under orders from their Arab masters living in FATA areas. The government tolerated their nonsense but after 6 months they decided to act. And I am glad they did but I only wished they acted sooner. Now your buddies have killed over 100 of our troops and started suicide bombing all over Pakistan. We DO NOT APPEASE Terrorists. The people in Lal Mosque were TERRORISTS and they deserved what they got. Mercenary2k 07:18, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Just for your information

Hi Yousaf465. This is only to let you know that your name has emrged in a discussion. Cheers --IslesCape 13:35, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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Pl. contribute to Tipu Sultan

Since Tipu was a common hero and much of his history is still plagued (in WP atleast) with biases & historical inaccuracies, I suggest we try to improve this article by adding sourced statements en route to becoming a FA. On a similar note, I feel Aurangzeb also has great potential, if ppl put aside their petty quarrels to make it a fine example of a biography although of a controversial man. --Idleguy 05:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

yes it could be a valuable insight to the man from an "inside" perspective. I didn't know his lineage - at least some - is now in Lahore. But I think he must be like great-great-great-grandson atleast? --Idleguy 10:37, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

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Sorry that I didn't get back to you sooner. How can I be of assistance? Tewfik 08:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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RE: thanks for the information but...

i couldn't find my name over there.User talk:Yousaf465

Sorry for coming back so late! It's here --IslesCape 17:09, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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i-post

Email to Postal Mail

A convenient free postal mail service which can deliver email messages all over Pakistan. Peoples can now use their email to send letters giving you another route to communicate with others who are not connected to the Internet in Pakistan.

In recent past Internet and e-mail have revolutionized the world of communications. But those who do not have easy access to Internet and e-mail facilities could not get benefits of this facility. In its endeavour to make the benefits of e-mail available to a common man, Al Tayyeb Group has introduced i-post service. By i-post all those who do not have computer or do not have access to Internet can send e-mail by Post Office or receive e-mail through a postman. Those who have access to Internet can also send i-post to those who do not have access to Internet.

Misplaced Pages should have an article on this social service & must be a part of WikiProject Pakistan.Please comments. --SaqibChaudhry (talk) 09:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

indian involvement

the given newslink only talks about indian made guns being used by some groups in NWFP but nothing about India being accused of state sponsored terrorism, in the way that ISI has recently been hounded in the media, including pak's ally USA in its involvement in kabul blasts amongst other things. Infact the source from "The Nation" doesn't "accuse" India of any terrorist involvement, but just the arms case. So rewording to give it a different meaning in the article was out of good faith and I hope you'll remove it yourself. Tx. Idleguy (talk) 10:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Blogs - barring any significantly famous ones - aren't really a reliable source and most of the links you've given don't work anyways. --Idleguy (talk) 15:00, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Except the rediff link, the rest in my talk page give a 404 error. btw, don't you find it a bit amusing that after India, Afghanistan, and most importantly Pak's ally in the "War on Terror", the USofA accused ISI for its involvement in the recent kabul blasts, we have pakistan reporting of these three nations' (including US) trying to support terrorism in Pakistan? US backing terror networks in Pakistan This only proves that Pakistan is hell bent on accusing those who have criticised Pak by counter allegging them with state-sponsored terrorism. --Idleguy (talk) 12:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

See

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Pl use new section to give this kind of message.

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Apologies. Lihaas (talk) 14:41, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

On this edit: (http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Islamabad_Marriott_Hotel_bombing&diff=240378394&oldid=240356633) what was the mention in talk? (i dont disagree, just asking) Lihaas (talk) 14:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Good question. Previously an editor had taken it off citing the unverifiability of youtube as a source, was just copy editing to keep certain controversies out.

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Irgun

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International reaction to the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict

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Brad Haddin did not make an effort to prevent Neil Broom from leaving the field after the wicketkeeper dislodged the bails in a bowled dismissal in Perth. When Neil Broom was bowled in the First match of the Chappell-Hadlee Series in Melbourne,but the replays showed that Haddin's glow's touched the stumps before ball has crossed the stumps.So Neil Broom should have been considered not out.It should have been called a no-ball

is all your opinion and has no place in an article. Until such time as you can provide a NPOV version of events, I will continue to remove this content. -- Mattinbgn\ 04:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Now an NPOV version has been added (from a NZ source no less). Mindless vandalism has seen the article semi-protected but this should not prevent you from making any changes if you wish. Adding large blockquotes to the article would seem to me to breach WP:UNDUE. By the way I am very familiar with what the international reaction has been. If you are curious, take a look at this article for some history. -- Mattinbgn\ 05:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Having a logo showing doesn't make it any less of a copyright violation. Personally, I am happy to see Haddin kicked out of the Australian team, not because he is a cheat (although he may well be), but because he is a very ordinary wicket-keeper. I hold no special regard for him. -- Mattinbgn\ 09:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I forget to added the ref.SO instead of removing it you should have added the ref which is . You may edit it to make it according to the wiki guidelines.I have no objection to that.Feel free to edit it.P.s don't forget to read the comments although they have nothing to do with the wikipedia but they can show what people think about this incident. comments are not meant for wiki.User talk:Yousaf465 User talk:Yousaf465

Nopv section has been added so don't revert it or you will be referred.User talk:Yousaf465

Well then it's ok.There is something strange happening at my home right now will check later.User talk:Yousaf465

Why was it being vandalized they are getting too furious I think.User talk:Yousaf465

Re: What is your e-mail

Hello Yousaf, sure, my email address is trulyinsane@gmail.com Faraz (talk) 21:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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No warning was given.No mention on my talk page.No specific information given.He seems to be biased against me due to my edits on Brad haddin page.And also he or someone related to him, seems to be operating from the ip 70.112.77.127.If he had some issue it should have been dicussed instead of imposing a ban.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=State-sponsored_terrorism&diff=269930561&oldid=269783007.

I contacted the blocking administrator for additional commentary. Please be patient. seicer | talk | contribs 13:33, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): YellowMonkey (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) has failed to respond in a speedy manner and has conducted other edits since the initial message was relayed. I see no justification for the block, which is in accordance with other comments made on this matter. seicer | talk | contribs 03:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC) Request handled by: seicer | talk | contribs 03:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC) Unblocking administrator: Please check for active autoblocks on this user after accepting the unblock request.

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Please stop. If you continue to violate Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did to State-sponsored terrorism, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. -- Tinu Cherian - 11:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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US works copy right

Regarding this , I request you to please read Work_of_the_United_States_Government . Kindly stop your disruptive edits !-- Tinu Cherian - 05:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I Already read that before marking it.This lab. is not listed on in lab pages listed in wikipedia.

"Please note that national laboratories operate under varying licenses and some are not free. Check the site policies of any national lab before crediting it with this tag." See this before removing tag..User:Yousaf465

Yousaf465 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Blocking is unfair as my edits have been endorsed by other non-related editors.for further explanation see below.

Decline reason:

Attacking Yellowmonkey below is not a good way to get unblocked. It is quite clear from the ANI thread cited above that your block is not for a single, specific action but rather for a long pattern of tendentious behavior. Since you have not addressed this behavior, as explained in detail at the ANI thread cited above, and you have given no assurances that you intend to stop, I see no reason to unblock at this time. Jayron32.talk.contribs 03:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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Yellowmonkey either doesn't understand simple English or is trying to be over nationalist,the main page controversy is baseless.I wasn't trying to be natinalist or any such thing.My only point was that it should be diversified.2)If you see the file history it can be seen,that,this file at first had dead links.I tagged it that way.Another editor provided the links to it.I asked him to check with the mentioned lab. whether they provide it for wikipedia.The herald has also been questioned by other non-concerned editors ,,,so there is no point in blaming me for that.4)Be sensible and Read carefully a)Image description b)Tag description c) talk pages.Before accusing anyone of racial bias.5)I didn't revert this any further because a valid reason was given.I can't see any reinsertion by User:Seicer at this User:Yellowmonkey is going out of his mind.He and other involved editor didn't even took pain to discuss these articles and file on the talk page.Instead have constantly removing content while hiding behind ips as it mentioned here..Taquiyya is actually Taqiyya. I myself removed content which was questionable but Instead of making on it they just kept on reverting edits.User:Yousaf465

Yousaf465 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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will remain away from sst article.

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As above, this does not adequately address the reason for your block.  Sandstein  09:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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