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"It has been a legal requirement within the United States of America since a 1986 amendment to the Gun Control Act"

Say what? Who wrote this? Federal Firearms Licenses have been around since the Federal Firearms Act of 1938. At that time you only needed an FFL to *sell* firearms across state lines. The modern FFL was created in 1968 when the GCA repealed and replaced the FFA. What's the FOPA (... in 1986) have to do with any of it? --70.160.160.175 21:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Curio & Relic FFL

Relative to the following: "Certain automatic weapons have been designated as C&R firearms, and although a C&R FFL can be used to acquire these as well, they are also subject to the controls imposed by the National Firearms Act of 1934." I believe we need to spell out exactly what the rules are; i.e., what about the pre-approval of the local law enforcement officer for automatic weapons -- is it required again when a C&R license is held? (The C&R license has already notified the chief LEO in his area during his C&R application process.) Likewise, what about the $200 transfer tax; when is it paid when holding a C&R license? The details of this C&R section still need some work. Yaf 23:44, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

• What's the advantage of getting this license? Can't these be sold as ordinary guns too? --Kalmia 17:31, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

The advantage to the C&R license is that it only costs $30.00 v $200.00 it costs for the FFL. On the subject of the FFL: Having an FFL doesn’t guarantee that a person will receive a better price on a firearm than a person without an FFL. What, you may ask? A person without an FFL can get as good a price on a firearm as a person with an FFL. Don't ask me why. I got my FFL only to discover that the wholesalers I contacted, (applied with), and sent my FFL to, expecting to get a wholesale price, wanted to charge me MORE money than I could get a gun for at one of the on line & brick'n mortar wholesalers that sell to the pubic. My suggestion is to forget paying $200.00 for an FFL because the chances are you will not get a much better price. The government dosen't care, they just keep collecting the $200.00 FFL license fee's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.73.108.182 (talk) 03:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

My understanding is that the big advantage of the C&R license is that you don't have to deal with a local FFL to receive a gun via mailorder. So, you can have a gun directly shipped to you and you aren't at the mercy of the FFL who can charge whatever the hell they want for the transfer. Last time I checked, a transfer was supposed to run $10-$15, but the store can charge whatever the hell they want. Of course, there's the extra hassle of keeping books, being open to "spot checks" by BATFE agents and getting your CLEO's permission to do your collecting... that hassle being the main reason why I never went all the way through with the stupid thing. —/Mendaliv//_Δ's/ 08:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Non-Destructive & Destructive Devices

Could someone define these and what the differences are? Also could someone talk about the other license types besides the C&R? --Mycroft007 18:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

see http://en.wikipedia.org/Destructive_device Indy muaddib (talk) 01:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

encyclopedicity of "application fees" section

Pursuant to WP:NOPRICES, I would suggest that the price list of fees associated with obtaining the various classes of FFL is unencyclopedic and may merit removal. While this particular information may be an exception and merit inclusion, perhaps if the prices are codified in legislation (such as the transfer taxes codified in the NFA). Any thoughts? —/Mendaliv//_Δ's/ 08:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

quoting WP:NOPRICES

Sales catalogs, therefore product prices should not be quoted in an article unless they can be sourced and there is a justified reason for their mention. Examples of justified reasons include notable sales of rare collectors items, prices relating to discussion of a price war, and historical discussion of economic inflation. On the other hand, street prices are trivia that can vary widely from place to place and over time. Therefore, lists of products currently on sale should not quote street prices. In addition, Misplaced Pages is not a price guide to be used to compare the prices of competing products, or the prices of a single product across different countries or regions.

price is not from a sales catalog, they are not street prices sice they do not vary from location or time, since the prices are set by the govt there are no competing products, and since the prices are only valid for the US they are not across different countries or regions.

they are easily sourced at http://www.atf.gov/firearms/information/atftaxes.htm#Firearms

i see no reason to remove them. indy_muaddib (talk) 03:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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