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:NikoSilver:

Δε θα κάνεις archive το talk page σου ποτέ; Telex 1 3 : 0 5 , 2 M a y 2 0 0 6 ( U T C )

Μπα! :NikoSilver: 1 3 : 1 8 , 2 M a y 2 0 0 6 ( U T C )

Kosovo etc.

whole discussion merged here...

About FYROM

Na se rwthsw mia erwthsh giati den asxoloumai poly kairo me th wikipedia. Eida oti hsoun involved prin apo xronia se kapoio proposal 'H poll gia na ginei move to article apo Macedonia se FYROM... ti eixe ginei tote? --Radjenef (talk) 19:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Nai. H istoria omws einai palaioterh apo emena. Poly prin er8w, to ar8ro legotan fyrom. Meta thn anagnwrish ths Amerikhs, kai afou h wikipedia apofasise oti 8a xrhsimopoiei thn pio syxnh onomasia pou emfanizetai se Agglikes phges (WP:UE), kapoioi to metonomasan se RoM (pou einai kai twra). Meta kapoios skopianos prospa8hse na afairesei apo to intro (tis prwtes paragrafous dld.) akoma kai thn anafora tou OHE gia fyrom, kai ayto egine peripou otan prwtoeggrafhka egw. Prwtostathsa sthn pshfoforia na parameinei h anafora sthn prwth paragrafo (me epityxia), kai malista piesa kai gia metonomasia tou ar8rou (xwris omws apotelesma). Eixa kataferei na katarripsw to epixeirhma oti to RoM htan syxnotero tou fyrom stis Agglikes phges, alla h dikaiologia pou xrhsimopoih8hke tote htan oti h wikipedia prepei na epilegei tous aytoprosdiorismous (self-identifying-names) se periptwsh amfibolias gia thn syxnoterh Agglikh onomasia (htan ontws amfibolo). Pleon, oi pshfofories, para to oti die3agontai, DEN einai krisimes gia thn opoia apofash ths WP, alla ayto pou exei shmasia einai h symbatothta ton opoiwn pshfwn me tis politikes ths WP. Des WP:NCON, WP:UE, to archive ths pshfoforias, th 8esh mou gia metonomasia tou ar8rou, kai ta sxolia ep ayths. NikoSilver 21:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks gia thn anaskophsh :) 8a to psajw! Teleutaia fora pou eixa koitajei to WP:NCON, eixa katalhjei sto oti o pio logikos kanonas gia thn periptwsh auth einai:

"If the name of an inanimate or non-human entity is disputed by two jurisdictions and one or more English-language equivalents exists, use the most common English-language name."

Alla ama einai ambiguous to ti einai common kai ti oxi yparxei problhma. 8a to skeftw... Thanks kai pali! --Radjenef (talk) 00:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Nai, to guideline ayto exei alla3ei arketes fores apo tote, alla to periexomeno einai panta sxetiko. Koita, h gnwmh mou proswpika einai oti prepei na afierwseis kalytera thn energeia sou sto na kaneis na fainetai syxnoterh h opoia onomasia epi8ymeis se alles phges, ki oxi edw. H WP prospa8ei na "antikatoptrizei" ton e3w (agglofwno) kosmo. Ki oso o e3w agglofwnos kosmos tous leei sketo M apo edw ki apo ekei, opws katalabaineis oloi sthn WP prospa8oun na "aplousteysoun" th zwh tous legontas thn sketo M ki edw. Adiaforoun bebaia gia to an ayto einai swsto, h' an einai istoriko, h' an einai h8iko, h' an einai 8emito, h' an e3yphretei alytrwtikes blepseis klp, dioti afhnoun ayth thn apofash na thn paroun oloi oi alloi pou to xrhsimopoioun ka8hmerina (kai edw kanoun apla ton "ka8refth"). Krima pou ayth h egkyklopaideia den exei arxes, alla fobamai oti apla prospa8oun na kanoun th zwh tous eykoloterh me to na mhn asxolountai ma poios exei "dikio" kai giati. Pistevw h kainouria hgesia twn HPA na kanei kati kalytero pros ayth thn katey8ynsh, alla fobamai oti to megalytero meros tou paixnidiou exei hdh xa8ei mesa apo ta xeria mas (otan eixame th dynatothta na dex8oume to apisteyta kalo "Slabomakedonia" ki ant' aytou apofasisame "oxi Makedonia ston titlo")... Ante na anastrepseis twra mia poreia 10-15 etwn pou oloi tous apokaloun me ton mikrotero, eykolotero kai wraiotero aytoprosdiorismo... NikoSilver 01:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Contemporary press headlines on atrocities affecting the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922)

I have nominated Contemporary press headlines on atrocities affecting the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Contemporary press headlines on atrocities affecting the Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Poso Biolhs?

Ωραίος ο τύπος ε? (και ξέρω ότι ξέρει ελληνικά)85.74.219.75 (talk) 13:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Name discussion move

I suggest that you look at the first templated notice on Talk:Republic of Macedonia. -- ChrisO (talk) 22:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I suggest you abstain from administrative actions in the dispute because you are evidently an involved party. As for the template, you will notice that I have supported it myself over the years to avoid bickering (because this is its purpose), but this last post is the only coherent one for ages and it is a policy based proposal which shouldn't be buried along with the rest of the bickering shit in that page. It should be advertised and discussed to gain the maximum extent of consensus. NikoSilver 22:27, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Ela file

thelo ligo βοiθεια ado:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Brazilian_passport

ευχαριστώ πολύ file mou.

Reaper7 (talk) 19:00, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Near-vandalism

Niko, I reverted your last edit with an edit summary of "near-vandalism", and I mean it. Appealing to "unverifiable" about the naming issue is logically outrageous at the best of times (and no, I am not going to explain to you again why, because you evidently are not interested to understand), but doing so when the very source cited in that entry actually uses "Macedonia" pure and simple is the height of impudence. As for the main article, no, I'm not going to have more talk. We've had all the talk there was to be had on this topic, more than has been good for anybody. All has been said, now it just needs to be seen through. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

For the small issue: Hadn't checked the source. I had cited three reasons. The other two were "confusing" and "precedent". lol I acknowledge your kindness to add "near"... NikoSilver 14:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

For the main article: So in essence "you will do what you like because you say so and you don't care what everybody else thinks because you are the ultimate authority". Got it. BTW, I was very much interested to understand, but seeing that your position is me to understand, and you not, well... I'm inclined to follow your example. Last time you had given a very obscure ultra-elaborated wiki-lawyering interpretation on why you thought that articles related to Greece should be treated differently from those dealing with EU, UN, NATO etc. And then you are accusing everybody else that their opinions are not worth replying to. Please calm down, because you are losing it. I'm telling you because I consider you my friend also. You seem like you are obsessed with this. Really. NikoSilver 14:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)