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Meatpuppet?

Bouncehoper: What the crap is a meatpuppet?

Baegis: A marionette that subsists on a diet solely of meat and its derivatives.

Bouncehoper: ...How is that different than a sockpuppet? (also, makes me hungry....)

Baegis: Sockpuppets, of course, eat cotton products, which are severely lacking in nutrition and deliciousness.

Bouncehoper: How....strange....lol. thanks!

from Baegis's talk page

Badagnani RFC

Perhaps you can participate in it here? It seems that you clearly have a history of "rivalry" with Badagnani. Eugene2x► 23:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Objective

I'd be happy to know in what way you feel I'm not being objective. -GTBacchus 00:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

For the record, I have no doubt of your good faith, nor have I suggested that you have failed to assume good faith in any other editor. I pretty much trust you on that count, implicitly. -GTBacchus 00:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

MuZemike 02:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Good night

Thank you for correcting my rating for bacon in popular culture. I may have been slightly over-enthusiastic. It's fortunate that I can rely on the good judgement of my fellow editors to keep things in check if I mess up. Take care and have fun! ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

This is how Badagnani behaves

• Note The guy named Badagnani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) who has been following and harassing me for over a year (including racist attack), still chasing my edits today He has been making "bogus" about me, I gave him a warning but typically he deleted my criticism on his hypocrisy and wikistalking of me, so I paste the deleted for record.--Caspian blue 01:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

You are still following my edits, then you think you deserve to falsely accuse me of hounding you? Don't play a victim card. I want you to stop chasing my contribution to Korean cuisine. There are "many" native speakers of English who can fix my English per my request, so I don't need your special care as long as you demonize me and make bogus accusation. I've tried to assume good faith on you regardless of your various wrongdoing to me, but you are the one re-igniting the old animosity with your disruptive behaviors. When you attacked me with the racist attack on the admin's page and accused me of being stalking you for my good faith advice on OTRS images, you clarified your position against me. To be clear, the alleged stalking of mine was done right after you stalked to my newly created articles? So your hounding of me is okay to continue? To sum up, do not follow my edits any more. I'm done with you.--Caspian blue 00:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: RfA BlueCaper Opposition

Hi, it's BlueCaper. I do not see why your opposition includes the "problems" of Harry J. Lincoln. Just because I created it does not mean the sole responsibility of the article should be on me. The page does not belong to me; it belongs to Misplaced Pages. It is everyone's job (not just mine) to make an article efficient.

But I am not here to rant and rave. Let me show you some gratitude for helping me and thousands of others make Misplaced Pages a better place.

Thank you.

-BlueCaper (talk) 13:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:copy violated images

I apologise, I didn't see your notice until today. I'm looking into the issue now. J Milburn (talk) 16:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

They've all been tagged for deletion in various ways. Allows the uploader time to clarify, but means they will get deleted if no clarification is forthcoming. J Milburn (talk) 17:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

If only every image uploaded to Misplaced Pages as "own work" was genuinely the work of the uploader... Fingers crossed though, as ever. It does cheer me up when I see an image on my watchlist resurrected by an OTRS volunteer. J Milburn (talk) 17:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Galbitang

On March 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Galbitang, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 18:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

• I'm feeling hungry now after reading it! I miss Korean food... - Mailer Diablo 18:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Looks tasty. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:22, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank guys. The soup is yummy. --Caspian blue 23:47, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

ArbCom

I believed you once had a dispute with Tenmei, resulting in you filing this dispute: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive471#User:Tenmei.27s_abusing_AfD_and_personal_attacks, Would you care to give more details at ArbCom?Teeninvestor (talk) 21:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Just to tell you, I'm not on the side of the troll; in fact, I condemn him. By the way, I remember that sources do not have to display notability; they only need to display verifiablity.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

No, ArbCom won't save time, considering there was no problem to begin with; just Tenmei's obstinacy. ArbCom cases are lengthy and I'm not very happy being involved in all of that.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Note that the problem with the article is solved, and there wasn't any edit warring for a while????? And what do you mean that "this is not limited to this case?"Teeninvestor (talk) 22:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

How would emailing you help???? Also, note how links have been provided to the source, as well as standard bibliographical information, which would make it verifiable, eh? That isn't exactly "controversial", or else the editors of said articles would have said so.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is a very similar RfAr case regarding "sourcing" and many other cases regarding nationalistic disputes (to be correct, didn't you edit war not only with him, but also Mongolian editors over the descriptions on the sovereignty during the ancient time?) I will tell you more if you take my advice.--Caspian blue 22:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

The "edit war" with "Mongolian editors" was very strange. I was adding sections to the article, and they deleted it without explanation. Then they left. It was one of the strangest disputes I went through. i wouldn't say it was a nationalist dispute; they didn't even say why/what they were deleting it? Then Tenmei came in with his "rhetorical skills", and you know what that leads to. Oh ya, what's your email? I'm not too good with the emailUser feature. Teeninvestor (talk) 23:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't expose it on the public place. You need to go to Special:Preferences first and then fill in your address into Email section. Then scroll down page, you check the box, "Enable e-mail from other users" and save the change. Then, you will receive a message "you have to verify the address to use the function". Then open the message on your email account. Then your email sending/receiving are set up. After you finish the procedure, you either can tell me you're ready or look at the left side of the bar on my talk. There has "What links here and E-mail this user" and others. Then you can send me mail as well as others. --Caspian blue 23:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

As for the deletion without rationale, I clearly saw their message. Didn't they say "We, great ancestors were never ruled by Han Chinese!" Didn't you really catch that? Well, the article was actually created by the banned user to convey this message too "Even though Mongolian can say that they ruled Han Chinese for some period time, Mongolians were also ruled by our Han Chinese." Those are clear nationalistic feuds--Caspian blue 23:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice, Caspian Blue! I was not aware of this feud. I just saw this article as an ARS member and wanted to improve it.Teeninvestor (talk) 21:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I've decided not to use the emailUser feature. I was spammed.Teeninvestor (talk) 14:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Did you set up the function? When???? Who gave you spam mails? Well, reconsider my suggestion though....--Caspian blue 14:47, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hi. I noticed your recent post at Badagnani's page, which he removed. You may have noticed that I'm working with Badagnani. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with a post like that... do you really think that telling someone to leave you alone on the internet will make them leave you alone? As part of this dispute resolution, do you think you could moderate your tone, or if that's not possible then please ask me when you're having a problem before you go to Badagnani's page with another angry post that doesn't accomplish anything, except perhaps that you feel satisfied making it.

Unfortunately, your satisfaction is not prioritized ahead of encyclopedia writing, and combativeness — regardless of who started it — never helps with encyclopedia writing. Combativeness is a really bad idea, and it hurts the project. If you respond to combativeness with more combativeness, then you've just doubled the problem. Rather than doing that learn to de-escalate. If you cannot or will not do that, then I strongly urge you to get my attention when you're experiencing trouble with Badagnani, and then let me handle the situation. Your reactions to him are part of the problem right now. Think hard about that. Thanks for understanding. -GTBacchus 01:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what Viriditas is up to, but I've left him a note. Your comments about my efforts at "education" show how little you understand of what I'm doing. Stay tuned though. The last two times you told me how wrong I was, you turned around and apologized later. I don't expect any more of that; I'm just sayin'. -GTBacchus 01:55, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Images and usefulness

In terms of this, I think the image can be removed altogether... there's not much value in a picture of a kid holding his head. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 03:59, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh balls, there's drama behind this? I thought that was a silly image added in by some good-faith newcomer, had no idea there's an edit war behind this. I guess I'll join in the discussion (I was using an IP because life is too hectic to log in :P). Thanks for the speedy reply! Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Tabby cat

Hi Caspian blue, I saw what you posted on WP:WPCATS. I suggest that you bring this to Misplaced Pages:RM#Requesting_potentially_controversial_moves.--Lenticel 07:27, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I did, but the user moved three! articles on similar subjects too.--Caspian blue 15:29, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Much ado

Hi I see you also had some trouble regarding User:Ironholds. I lost my temper with him earlier as I'm sick and tired of people criticising the articles I create. I really hate the overlook of some people on here it has to be said, I'm sure you feel exactly the same way in such discussions when you are branded all sorts of clearly untrue things. Sometimes we think "Why do we bother?" huh? And for the record your English is excellent, igore the tripe. Dr. Blofeld 17:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, how you doing? Actually I don't have any problem with Ironholds as long as he is not an admin. I noted that he is quiet uncivil to editors though. The fiasco was a conflict between my interpretation of his experimental RfA and (not objection) oppression by others to think me the way they think. I could not do that. I counted the experimental RfA as one of his failed trials because it taunted the RfA system and he should've done it on Editor's review, not on RFA page. But well, sometimes, when I oppose somebody, saying "per whose comment" is much easier to be here. Anyway, thank you for the kind words.--Caspian blue 19:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Korean Cusine references

Hi Caspian,

I have been working on correcting the references in the Korean cuisine article and would like your help in completing them. I have separated the sources that are in Korean and would like you help in translating such things as article titles, authors and other information. This would be a great help as all I have is Google language tools, which is a non-contextual translator that leaves a lot to be desired.

Thanks, Jeremy (blah blah) 18:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice.--Caspian blue 19:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Mailer Diablo 14:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops

Sorry, I posted a question for you at Anonymous Dissident's RfB, but I forgot to let you know, which is not very polite. Sorry for that. Anyway, you'll find the question below your !vote. Hope you don't mind the question. If you do mind it, drop a response here or on my talk page - let's not clog up AD's RfB page. --Dweller (talk) 15:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Caspian blue. Thank you for your principled action. In my mind you stand for the best that Misplaced Pages has to offer. Tasos (Dr.K. logos 00:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC))

Accusation by Georgewilliamherbert

Caspian blue -

You reported Roux to ANI after a series of exchanges on his/her talk page where they got fed up and very rude with you.

On reviewing the complete history here, I can't help but come to the conclusion that while their outburst was uncalled for, you have been taunting and poking them for some time. The sequence of events which led to the outburst was extremely poor behavior on your part.

This is not acceptable behavior. You have crossed the line here, into wikistalking or harrassing Roux.

Our civility and harrassment policies do not allow this sort of behavior. You need to disengage from Roux. There's no need to be discussing anything with them at this point - no user talk page, no article talk page, no ANI, nothing. Do not respond to them, do not follow them up. Leave them alone and disengage.

You have a long history of having provoked people and caused problems. Please consider this a formal warning that further abusive behavior on your part will result in blocks, whether it's with Roux or another editor.

We expect editors here to be cooperative and work together in a constructive and adult manner. I and the community expect no less than that from you. You know this - you've been told that repeatedly. I hope you can live up to community standards here. If you cannot help but interact with people this way, your participation here will come to an end sooner rather than later. I do not look forwards to that, and would prefer that you stop causing conflicts around you, but these conflicts are too visible and have happened too many times. Enough is enough. Find another way of dealing with people here.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

That was not an acceptable response. You have been blocked from editing for 24 hrs for harrassment of Roux. Please take these warnings seriously in the future and avoid causing conflict with other editors as you have recently. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Caspian blue (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

As soon as I got this above threatening message that contains "false information". I noted it, and visited the admin and left a question. As soon as I left it, I've got blocked. In a second before he answers to my question. The admin falsely accused me of wikistalking many including Roux. I contested Roux about him talking ill of me I am simultaneously singularly uninterested in anything Caspian Blue does, and very specifically interested in keeping the hell away from his shotgun blasts of incivility and personal attacks. So, no. //roux 03:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC), so I gave him a warning. Then I'm the one who got various F-words. Naturally I was angry, so made a file to ANI. However, I archived the ANI soon by suggestion, and have no wish to talk with him furthur. However, this block is not only based on the blocking admin's own bias and very punitive after 8 hours past from the incident. How does giving him a warning become "wikistalking?" He assumed that I did not read his warning, and did not like my defiance. I asked him "who are them"? Then, I immediately got blocked. So I'm requesting for unblock. With the dreadful experience, I get that I'm distrusted by admins even though Roux poured personal attacks. I will only "contribute" content building if I'm unblocked. Thanks.

Decline reason:

Per discussion with Caspian blue and myself in #wikipedia-en-unblock , he has agreed to wait out the block. PeterSymonds :  Chat  03:29, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

--Caspian blue 01:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

How is changing the subsection name of the warning and block notice I left for you not further disruption here, Caspian Blue?

For reviewing admins - The sequence of events on Roux's talk page, ANI, and prior edits are the combined sequence which form the harrassment of Roux. Caspian Blue here feels he was wronged by Roux's eventual rude response - which was over the line as well, and for which I left Roux a warning - but the pattern around and after those was clear harrassment of Roux by Caspian Blue. We do not tolerate taunting or baiting here any more than other forms of abusive behavior... Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Because I did not agree with your block and false accusation, and this is my talk page. As much as you respect Rou'x right to yell F-words at me after my waring to him, I want you to consider my right to change the title. You have not answered me about the accusation of "them" or give me diffs. I've seen you wrongly blocked many editors, but when it comes to me, it is not funny. As long as Misplaced Pages are condoning this kind of abuse, harassment and false accusation, there is no hope in my understanding.--Caspian blue 01:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

• Note to those incoming: WP:ANI#User:Roux 's verbal attacks and threat. seicer | talk | contribs 02:37, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Prior incidents

Per a request on my talk page:

Hello. Caspian blue has contacted the Misplaced Pages IRC unblock channel with a request for clarification. He has asked the blocking administrator to substantiate a particular accusation regarding the number of people he has "harassed" or "stalked" in the past. I appreciate this does not excuse his conduct, but he has asked this to be clarified with evidence. Thank you, PeterSymonds :  Chat  02:55, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I will link to a few incidents establishing a prior record of abusive behavior with multiple other editors:

• June 2008
  • IncidentArchive431#Caspian_Blue
  • IncidentArchive432#Edit_warring_.28repeated_blanking_of_sourced_text.29_by_User:Caspian_blue_at_Seolleongtang
  • IncidentArchive433#User:Caspian_blue
• August 2008
  • IncidentArchive460#User:Sennen_goroshi.27s_stalking_and_disruption
  • IncidentArchive470#Caspian_blue
  • IncidentArchive471#User:Tenmei.27s_abusing_AfD_and_personal_attacks
• October 2008
  • IncidentArchive485#User:Nihonjoe.27s_bad_faith_behaviors
  • IncidentArchive487#User:_Caspian_blue
• November 2008
  • IncidentArchive490#Block.2FUnblock.2C_Caspian_Blue.2C_AIV_reports.2C_copyrighted_material..._am_i_missing_anything.3F
  • IncidentArchive495#hijacked_RfC
• December 2008
  • IncidentArchive496#Edit_warring_at_Koreans
  • IncidentArchive499#User:Caspian_blue_continued_false_accusations.2C_misrepresentations_and_personal_attacks
• January 2009
  • IncidentArchive510#Sennen_goroshi_Caspian_Blue
• March 2009
  • IncidentArchive520#Sock_puppet_accusations_by_User:Rjecina

This took about 20 min with the noticeboard search function, ruling out cases where CB was not a party (just commented) and those where he was filing a case and clearly didn't use abusive behavior in filing the complaint, leaving about half of the cases he filed or were filed against him.

There are greater and lesser transgressions among those sets - some are far worse than others - but this type of pattern of repeat offense and repeatedly coming back before the ANI and AN noticeboards and repeatedly coming into massive scale conflict with multiple other editors are all highly problematic. I don't think anyone has tried to pull this all together so far - assuming CB was an irritation to be politely reminded again to be polite and AGF when he pops up every few weeks. But the scope and scale of the problem, now that I have put it together, is extremely disturbing. We have indefinitely blocked people for far less disruption and far fewer personal attacks than the incidents above demonstrate.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 07:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Tenmei

User:Tenmei has filed an ArbCom case against me and I have done a little research on Tenmei and noted you have interacted with this user. Can you help provide an opinion about him? Thanks.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Tang_Dynasty/Evidence