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Keep this page fair and objective

This page has maintained neutrality for an extended period of time - thanks to coherent & mutually respectful work of a number of contributors. Disruptors attempting to thwart this process will not be tolerated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.253.211.174 (talk) 14:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

Repeated vandalism by user 89.200.212.78

This page has become a subject of systematic vandalism by a user from Holland who deliberately obliterates neutral info on this page and conveniently replaces it with biased nonsense. Protection of the article has been requested. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.14.61.84 (talk) 00:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

Come Back And Stay - Trevor Taylor's original version

I saw the other day this version offered for sale on ebay, which went up for... over $500(!) before it got pulled. I don't if that was real or just a work of some scammer, but one thing is clear for sure: there are people out there who know and appreciate the real vocalist of Bad Boys Blue - 20 year after he was kicked out from the group... and are willing to shell out a few hundred bucks just to hear this voice on the track. What do you know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.14.54.187 (talk) 20:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC).

for user: Harout72

Please refrain from future non-constructive alterations to the article that has been well maintained for over a year. Repeated alterations of similar nature will constitute vandalism to the article and will be treated as such.

If you concider having an image of Bad Boys Blue with John McInerney, Andrew Thomas and Kevin McCoy in it a vandalism then you might want to familiarize yourself with what the members of Bad Boys Blue look like. First of all, vandalism is when one replaces the correct information with the wrong or when adds an irrational information. In my case, however, I did not do any of the above. Second of all, the proper nouns in wikipedia are to be double bracketted for redirection purposes. Harout72

Excuse me please, but you're welcome to add images to this page, as long as YOU are familiar with band members YOURSELF, and as long as you do not create links to people that had nothing to do with BBB. You put in an image from 'Continued' album which was released in 1999, when there was no McCoy in the line-up. Your insisting on misnaming the two members is a clear indication that you are either uninformed at best or vandalizing at worst. 1) Look at the band roster to see who was a member and who was not in a particular year. 2) Find out what Mo Russel looks like and what McCoy looks like. 3) Add images with accurate, not misleading, descriptions. 4) In general, do only constructive alterations - as you may nave done with "proper nouns", but no double brackets to unrelated material, please.

P.S. McCoy joined BBB after the release of "Follow the light" (the last album to include Mo Russel), therefore he appeared only on "Tonite" album.

Well, if the name of the third member was incorrect (whose purpose within the act as we all know was temporary and quite remote) you perhaps could have corrected it yourself if you that well reconized that the image was from 1999 album Continued insead of tagging me with a name "VANDALIZER". Especially, when you, yourself say that we are welcome to add images of BBB. And don't you think the name of the producer Tony Hendrik or the name of the country Germany he's from from should be double bracketted? Harout72

First of all, user, whose IP starts with 66, made that correction a few days ago, which you reverted (as a vandalizer). Then today, I originally reverted it to his edit, but when I saw all your ridiculous reference pages with the grossly abused usage of double brackets, I realized that it would not be reasonable for me, or for anybody else to sort through your 50 double brackets in order to find 5 that were not wrongly applied. Please re-read my comments above: you're welcome to use double brackets as long as they point to the right areas/people.

FYI, With all the due respect, not too long ago, we had an idiot screwing BBB page with claims that Andrew Thomas is the lead vocalist who replaced Trevor Taylor in 87. Having said that, I would hope that you, Harout72, can contribute more to the article rather than your Russel/McCoy nonsense.

No one, except you, knows that Mo Russel's role was temporary and quite remote between 95-99. What "we" instead all know is that Russel revived the band back in 1995 with coming very close to challenging McInerney's spot on lead vocals and as a composer as well. With the group's return to Coconut, Russel got progressively sidelined, just like Andrew Thomas did. That was the reason for Russel's departure. Your continued attempts to denigrate Russel contribution/appearance can leave one wondering as to whether you are really so innocently uninformed.

Good luck pal, you don't want a picture of BBB, you don't want to double bracket the name of the producer, you don't want to double bracket the countries UK, eastern Europe, south Africa where they have been massively popular that's your business, I am not going to continue this quarrel. Take care Harout72

Good. You're free to take your nonsense and pointless demagogy to the kind of places where it would be welcomed. All the best.

As you wish your Honor

Page protection should be implemented to this article to prevent it from daily vandalism.

An IP-hopper - turned - Atbbb user vandalized the page at least 10 times as of today. After monitoring the page for some time, it is clear what this vandal is doing on daily basis. His intent is to disrupt the article and twist it in the way he/she feels fit. Not a single edit of the user had been constructive. The page should be protected to keep vandals like Atbbb away. Esoteriqa 15:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I suspect that Atbbb could be a sock-puppet of a user who several weeks ago added an image of himself together with... john's formation, namely Zureks. If you look at the pattern of edits done on bbb pages of several other languages, including german and french, you will see a striking resemblance in IP's of this IP-hopper prior to his becoming Atbbb AND user Zureks along with his non-user name IP entries, at the time of the same image being uploaded on various pages by this Zureks or his non-user name IP version. I suspect that since he clearly supports john's formation and wanted to have only that image on the bbb pages, he decided to create a diversion, supposedly promoting andrew's formation, in order to have the latter eventually removed. That is, the goal is to make enough ridiculous alterations, "promoting" andrew's (less significant) formation as a more important one, that will make any mentioning of andrew's formation so annoying that eventually it will have to be removed from the page all together. After all, not that many bbb wiki pages tend to even mention about andrew's formation. So, it would be very convenient for john's formation supporter to indirectly cause to have andrew's formation obliterated from wiki. In fact, Atbbb made a (very twisted) reference to the same image as the one posted by Zureks, in a way that would not make sense... unless you can find a direct connection between these two user names. I could be wrong with this sock-puppet theory, but I doubt that I am. 76.217.121.173 05:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Declined The page is hardly being vandalised daily. Yes, vandalism is frustrating, but I won't protect the page for one person who is vandalising the page once every few days. Feel free to request a review of this at WP:ANI. -- Flyguy649 21:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

the same s.o.b. made 15 reverts since November 24. look at the article history page. not enough vandalizing, eh? sure... whatever you say. 99.144.178.237 (talk) 22:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

"The page is hardly being vandalised daily." Really? Let's see: between Nov. 24 & Dec. 16 there are about 23 days, during which there were about 15 reverts made. So, 15/23 is about 2/3 which means the page is regularly vandalized on 2 occasions during every 3 days. I say, 2 out of 3 is close enough to call it "daily". I highly doubt you're that mathematically challenged not to realize it. I'm sure you can do better than just giving a nonsensical excuses for declining valid page protection requests. USRepublican (talk) 23:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

One more point. Look at the thread-starter's initial entry: Dec. 3, when he says like "it's a 10th vandalism attempt". Between Nov. 24 & Dec. 3 there are EXACTLY 10 days!!! "Hardly daily"??? Do you even know what you're talking about? I hope this is not how you earned your editorial stars. USRepublican (talk) 23:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Page-protection is generally for massive moment-by moment vandalism attacks, across several IP addresses. This guy shows up every week or so, makes a dick of himself and gets reverted. Also, calling an admin 'ignorant', simply because they aren't jumping through hoops for you isn't going to help your case, nor is insulting the vandal in your edit summaries. HalfShadow (talk) 16:50, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a better idea? (btw, I'm the "IP range" who's done most of the reverts - now I have my account) Lionscitygl (talk) 17:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Beyond 'Revert, wipe, continue', no. Unless you're getting hit every few minutes or so, you'd be told basically the same thing on the request page: You're just not getting hit hard enough to warrant protection yet. This guys is almost literally doing it only a couple of times a day when he does it at all. HalfShadow (talk) 18:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

That's the problem. If my theory (2nd post in the thread) is correct then it is the guy who knows the system well enough to avoid the 3rr rule or the warrant to have the page he trashes be protected, because the user in question is actually an admin in Polish wiki. That's why I say that the vandal is not some dumbass whom he tries to portray - he actually knows exactly what he's doing. Lionscitygl (talk) 18:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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