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Thank you

I just saw your kindly defence of me here what a joy to see that. The other customary accusations of eating babies, puppies, kittens and the black magic sacrifices I make before releasing a page into mainspace I can live with. Even the voodoo curses I enact on admins who block me - all true, but you my sweet spotted the lie. Thank you so much.

Love. Giano (talk) 15:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, well, probably everybody spotted it and nobody else thought it worth refuting.. I was promptly advised on IRC against having a battle of wits with an unarmed man woman, by a user who is something of an expert on that subject, so I think I'll merely ignore if I see any more attacks on that kind of level. Bishonen | talk 15:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC).

Can Zilla come play?

Snow needed at talk:David Irving#Proposed move ϢereSpielChequers 17:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, Zilla isn't used to closing stuff, she doesn't know from the right templates and stuff. And she tends to get overenthusiastic with the roaring when she tries. I've given my opinion.. Sorry to be so useless on the closing front, and I hope you won't have any trouble locating another uninvolved admin. Bishonen | talk 17:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC).

No problem, User:Trusilver turned out to be a worthy Rouge admin and snowed it forthwith. I guess some of the fiddlier templates must be difficult to manipulate when you're 80 foot tall. ϢereSpielChequers 18:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Zilla forever waiting for her nail polish to dry these days, too. Bishonen | talk 21:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC).

SlimVirgin

Hiya Bishonen. It would've been cool, to have had my comments responded to by SlimVirgin herself (as they were meant for her). Anyways, I've scratched them out. Jeepers, I didn't wanna see her getting blocked either, ya know. Ya'll should learn to relax a little. GoodDay (talk) 20:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Having taken some deep breaths, I realize you probably meant well. I'm sorry I let the way you expressed yourself get under my skin. Bishonen | talk 20:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC).

No prob, I'm cool. GoodDay (talk) 20:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Not surprised your cool, with that hat you have been taking off all over the place today. Giano (talk) 20:30, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I've got alot of hats. I only hope I can remember where I left them. GoodDay (talk) 20:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

User talk pages with the most edits

As of October 2008. Dragons flight (talk) 21:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

• Haha! Eat your heart out, User:Giano! Bishonen | talk 21:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC).

Beware L'esprit de la Comtesse de Burgh...whooohooohoooschreeeeeeeeeechc Giano (talk) 22:33, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Is little Lady! Come sit in Spiderman suit pocket Lady C! Incidentally 'Zilla talkpage superior. Discriminating little users watch! bishzilla _ROARR!! 23:23, 27 November 2008 (UTC).

Thanks for watching out for me

It's nice to know others keep an eye :-). However, as it turns out, that charming IP editor is a longtime unregistered contributor who I suspect most admins would recognise under his old IP of 68.39.174.238. His dumb ISP caused a forced "rename" last week, so now he doesn't have his 23,000-edit history attached anymore. Poor guy, now all the hugglers and twinklers are going to start calling his edits "vandalism" again; I think the software programmers had put his old IP on the "ignore" list. Thanks again. Risker (talk) 01:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Sleep

No.--Tznkai (talk) 16:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:CIV

Please keep WP:CIV in mind when interacting with other editors. Being rude gets you nowhere, and won't convince anyone of your point of view. It does add blatherskite to people's vocabularies, granted, but that is hardly sufficient compensation for the ill will it creates. --fvw* 04:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh shut up. Bishonen | talk 05:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC).

"Please keep WP:CIV in mind when interacting with other editors. Being rude gets you nowhere, and won't convince anyone of your point of view." Irony! --Akhilleus (talk) 04:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Nasty

No need for nasty comments. I have barely poked my nose into this place for months and when I do it is all strangely familiar. I see no need for you to rebuke me for a comment I have already apologized for. The very criticism you bring towards my comments could just as readily be applied to your comment towards me. I have not been here for weeks, and when I show up there you are to criticize me. I notice I am not the only person you have told to shut up. Chillum 06:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, go away. Bishonen | talk 08:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC).

Damn it!

I was hoping Bishzilla would show up at G's page, to breathe fire on Fred, but alas, the ever rational Bishonen came in her stead... _D.D.J.Jameson 22:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. Bishzilla is a bit down in the dumps because you haven't voted for her, HINT HINT. Bishonen | talk 22:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC).

An unforgivable oversight on my part, now remedied... _D.D.J.Jameson 23:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

All cheered up!

Yes, I rather hoped that would happen too, but thanks to woever it was who removed Fred. I suppose the ld Arbs must find the election results upsetting - we must make allowances for them during this difficult time of change. Giano

In agreement

Thanks Bishonen for removing my comments. GoodDay (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Err ya missed one, but I took care of it. GoodDay (talk) 22:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Competence required?? hey wait a sec; giggle giggle. GoodDay (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Drawing a blank

No ec - all your's I'm done for now. As to blanking I've had a bit of a quiet strop. See Risker's talk for Englishman about to blow (always hilarious I'm told, so I've refrained). --Joopercoopers (talk) 20:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The seemingly infinite voting delay re Peter Damian has emptied-out any slightest expectation of decency from the committee that I ever harbored. Come back in January, Joop. Bishonen | talk 20:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC).

There is some decency on the arbcom, it is just outnumbered and overpowered by the non-decent. I'm afraid not enough of the non-decent ones are leaving in January to make a difference, however. By the way, I'm still looking for a great disaster to write about, but haven't come up with one "big" enough. Have you had any thoughts along those lines? Tex (talk) 20:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Johnstown Flood and the poem written about it, which is a greater disaster. Cripple Creek and it's massive disaster? I'm sure the Canadians have been all over the Halifax explosion as a matter of national pride. Utgard Loki (talk) 20:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I know there are decent people on it. It would be odd if there weren't. I was referring to the low expectation of decency from the committee acting as a body. As for disasters, I've been thinking of August Strindberg's wives—walking disasters, every last one of them. ;-) (And Strindberg himself was a bit worse.) Or how about picking one from the List of historic fires? Lots of choice there. Bishonen | talk 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC).

I would recommend the Boston Molasses Disaster, but it's been done. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Been on the front page, I recollect. Bishonen | talk 20:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC).

Not sure about the front page, as it isn't in the article's milestones, but it could well be from before the day such records were kept. It is, however, a former good article, which means there's lots of good stuff there but it needs to be massaged, polished, and improved. This could well be a good choice for you, Tex. Risker (talk) 20:54, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it was a long time ago, that's why I thought it worth mentioning. Nowadays a soujourn on the front page is always made clear on the talkpage, but that didn't use to be the case. Utgard, I saw a Discovery Channel feature, I think it was, about the Halifax disaster, which I remember as being very informative. It might be worth Tex's while to get hold of that. Bishonen | talk 21:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC).

Wow, all the choices! Imagine drowning in molasses...What a hoot that would be! And Utgard's idea of Cripple Creek interests me as well. I love the whole "old west" culture and assuming the gold mine scuffle is what you are referring to, that might be something. The list of historic fires reminded me of the Great Seattle Fire. That article doesn't do the disaster justice. I visited the Seattle Underground when I was out there last year and that was really cool. Fixing up the fire page would be an interesting project. Great, I went from having no ideas to having too many! Tex (talk) 21:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Carolean Masques

Channeling Giano "Hang on I remember writing some red links for Bishonen years ago about Carolean drama, I think Jones may have designed fantastical sets with moving scenery, or was that someone else - Bishonen will rememeber." I'm pretty sure that's on the money - wasn't he in with Johnson 1600-1613ish? The threads on G's talk under copyediting. --Joopercoopers (talk) 00:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks Peter Damian (talk) 08:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems like shouting into a black hole, unfortunately! :-( Bishonen | talk 20:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC).

Tahk-sow-mick-et

Thanks for your comments concerning the Montana-dispute.

Hyvää joulua!

Peter 18:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Caught sight of that stuff accidentally—blev så förbannad..! Bishonen | talk 20:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC).

Hi from hidey and seasonsmiles!

Aw, hun-neee! Bishonen 21:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC).

Happy holiday

Oh mighty one, please have a happy holiday. And, if you don't mind - could you pass on the well wishes to the even scarier ones (aka Zilla and, gasp, Giano). :) Ottava Rima (talk) 05:22, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Mighty 'shonen consents to having happy holidays, graciously wishes some in return. 'Zilla friendly user, heart of gold, only curl little users' hair lightly with deathray these days! But mighty Giano very scary, aye.. will leave wishes on doorstep and run ! Bishonen | talk 06:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC).

• Ha! Are those two fishapods out there, moving in towards the land? "From the water / To the land..." Have a listen to Tiktaalik and a bishapod Christmas plushy, little Guettarda! Bishonen | talk 06:41, 25 December 2008 (UTC).

• Merry Christmas Bish and all the little Bishes in the sea. --Joopercoopers (talk) 10:07, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

• And, bringing up the rhea, .. dave souza, talk 11:14, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

• Bringing Up Baby? Little Stupid create own cool sockpuppet User:Bishrhea ! bishapod splash! 01:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC).

And a happy new year to all

Happy New Year! Nice fireworks!--MONGO 15:13, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Hiya Bigfoot! Bishonen | talk 18:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC).

Vocabulary

I have expanded my vocabulary to include the word petulant. See how I have used it. Jehochman 05:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

...and HAPPY NEW YEAR! Jehochman 05:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Mhm. You still have the same dumb subheader, I see. And your second point is.. wait while I consult Bishzilla's sekrit thesaurus.. it's petty, niggling, trivial, mean, and mickey mouse. (He misuses noticeboards? And?) Admittedly your evidence isn't peevish, spiteful, and trifling on the same scale as Seicer's, but then I wouldn't have expected it to be. Happy new year! Bishonen | talk 08:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC).

Oh, please! "Petulant" is not exclusive. I have heard sages become petulant over etymology and children speak maturely on ontology. We can all be petulant, if we try. I, myself, plan to be quite petulant in the near future. I'm going off to a singles bar, and I'm going to hold my breath until the woman I choose goes home with me. It ought to work at least as well as my previous strategy of looking mysterious and dangerous. Utgard Loki (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Dear hostess, if you are not feeling too petulant, could you give Gamma-ray burst a quick read? I am sending it to WP:FAC sooner or later. Jehochman 07:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Not sure about the petulance. I've done a very light hostessy copyedit. Bishonen | talk 13:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC).

P.S. Justanother points out that Bishzilla's thesaurus ought to be spelled the-saurus. :-) Bishonen | talk 13:13, 5 January 2009 (UTC).

Thank you. *Jehochman places a plate of his wife's home-baked chocolate muffins on a coffee table, and nibbles on one.* Jehochman 13:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

• Utgard Loki, speaking of techniques that work...I'm writing a page featuring a guy who sweeps the girls off their feet by being a disreputable radical; scandalous; at the height of his creative powers at age 51; highly susceptible to strong, independent women; and a man of domestic tastes. He invited pretty young women of character to his bachelor establishment, where he spoke courteously and paternally to them, and treated them to beautifully arranged fruit and flowers. I'm not saying it's the only way... but it worked all right, they were fascinated. If you survive the holding-your-breath-until method, you might try that next! Bishonen | talk 17:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC).

Beautifully arranged fruit? First time I've heard of that being the way to a woman's heart. Yomangani 17:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Yo-maman so fat! Little Stupid (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC).

You sure popped up fast at that edit summary, Yomangani; use your imagination !! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC) (who is going to stalk Bish's contribs now to see this article).

Peaches? Uhhh. I can't think of many others. Arranging fruits tastefully.... You know, I think going to singles bars in a rented Mercedes and a bag over my head probably has a higher chance of success for me. I've just been adding Tom Jones references various places, because I read an article. This is what I do with my spare time, but it's better than musing about ontology or oopherology. Utgard Loki (talk) 18:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

You have a literal mind, Loki. I was thinking you might want to try the disreputable and scandalous, combined with the domestic tastes. (I wonder if that meant watching a lot of cable?) Fascinating mix.. Bishonen | talk 20:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC).

Heads up

Hi, just letting you know (as you edited Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Mattisse 3) that it has gawn live. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

"Unabridged"

Bishonen | talk 17:24, 7 January 2009 (UTC).

Talking of humour - how witty you have become - I've spotted Flo, Risker and I suspect a couple more, but I'm having a bit of a problem with Brad and one or two of the bigger footed others though. However, it is Carabosse I want to find. Giano (talk) 17:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

• Witty? That must be from associating with you. I think young Coren is in there—third on the right, don't you think? Bishonen | talk 17:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC).

• "Unabridged"? Doesn't that describe Tokyo after a visit from zilla? Unabridged. Unaskyscrapered. Etc. --Justallofthem (talk) 18:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Little Justa amusing! bishzilla _ROARR!! 19:13, 7 January 2009 (UTC).
    • Tokyo Tower make good toothpick. --Justallofthem (talk) 19:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

E-mail, female

A question via e-mail, and I'd like your feedback. I don't want to get in a fight with Martin Battestin, but I have a bone to pick. Geogre (talk) 18:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

• He-ey! Bits of it sounds like comments on Jimbo! Bishonen | talk 19:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC).

Hi, response to your comment

I responded to your comment on my talk page. Thanks, and I hope you will look at some of the obvios proposals that need serious comments to them. You'll see them with even just scanning the page! Most of the proposals have real long names and new words defined. Thanks again for your comments, --CrohnieGal 16:56, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Questionable decisions

You are aware with blocking an arbitrator can cause? This, no offense to you, is the ultimate drama causer. You are aware that there is an ANI thread? As an administrator, I see this as a highly immature decision, rather than discussing it beforehand. I suggest you highly think next time before you make such a rash decision. Personally, I can tell you now, the Arbitration Committee will not like this.Mitch32 21:46, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

They won't? Ooh, I'm scared. Bishonen | talk 21:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC).

The Arbitration Committee have had their chance to address this matter, their likes and dislikes are neither here nor there - the project is what is important - as I'm sure you will agree. Giano (talk) 21:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

What Bishonen did was to take a pot of pudding that was on a slow simmer and apply a blowtorch to it. It might get the pudding cooked faster, but it also might result in a scorched and inedible mess. Thatcher 21:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I believe this matter needs to be put to a community vote. The committee not competent to judge their own members. Jehochman 21:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

No offense, but is that supposed to be mocking ArbCom? They are the high court, and their decisions are important to Misplaced Pages. As per Giano, yes the project is important, yet there are certain things impeding that, such as something like this and previous cases. Being a supporter of anti-block, I am against the type of situations these cause, and prefer the thought that we should work on solving it. There are times where it just isn't possible. Yet, I do believe this is one for mediation or something. I don't think ArbCom is the place to solve this, like has been recently for other cases.Mitch32 21:54, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

• Well the committee should not have to judge its own members. Wales has few roles, this is one where even a constitutional monarch is allowed to step in, but ours seems to be on a yacht in the Riviera, rather than seated on his throne. Giano (talk) 21:57, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I am not pertaining towards Jimbo in this situation, I would like to see this taken to the Mediation Committee, where it can be solved thoroughly.Mitch32 22:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Disputes between admins, in my view at least, are far bigger than the capacity of the Mediation Committee. This seems like a matter for the community. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:07, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

MedCom is for addressing content disputes. The complaint here is that FT2 ought to be disqualified as Arbitrator by virtue of recent statements that fudged the truth. As I understand the rules, only Jimbo can remove him from the committee. The other committee members have a voice of course, and if there was a consensus among the other members of Arbcom to remove him, Jimbo would be a fool to ignore it. I have no complaints at this time with Arbcom's handling of the matter, the 10 new arbitrators need time to get up to speed and it is somewhat unfair to saddle them on week one with a messy personnel matter left over from the previous committee. The community can press for FT2's resignation as well, but has no power to enforce it, other than by shunning him and ignoring anything he tries to do in the committee's name. Thatcher 22:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Without commenting on FT2, I would like to say that your action was the most clear-cut case of adminship abuse I have ever seen. --Apoc2400 (talk) 01:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Without knowing anything about the matter, I think you mean. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Bishonen | talk 01:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC).

Yeah, this wasn't too swift. I'm a bit surprised and would just hope that such a thing wouldn't happen this way again. It isn't helpful to the community to create this kind of drama knowingly for the purpose of gaining a soapbox. No trout...King mackerel maybe...
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 01:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Bishonen, I call on you to resign your adminship and stand for a new RfA. If you are going to take tremendously bold and controversial actions against long-term editors without prior community deliberation, you should go before the community and see whether you still have its confidence. Everyking (talk) 05:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Bish I call on you to keep on as normal, but not to block a sitting Arb unless they're actively causing a mess. Although the block has caused a discussion which favours FT2s removal, FT2 is sing the excuse of the "out-of-process" block to ignore the community. Again. This was perhaps unwise, but abuse? That requires a pattern of unwise and unjustifiable behaviour - not happened here. Verbal chat 08:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Calling for Bishonen's resignation is laughable - thank God someone finally had the guts to try and sort this out. Giano (talk) 08:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Just to be clear, Bishonen should not resign. Verbal chat 08:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear

I hope it's just a temporary neuro-linguistic failure. :-) Tom Harrison 22:04, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

RFAR

I have named you on your alternate account at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Biszilla. You may wish to make a statement. Durova 22:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The only thing about the RFAR that has surprised me so far is that FT2 hasn't annouced that he sees no reason to recuse and votes to accept the case.198.161.173.180 (talk) 17:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant the question for Durova (I'll post it there). GoodDay (talk) 19:05, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

My Dear Bish Do Shame

Title: My Dear Bish Do Shame
Artist: Proabivouac and the Slam Bruise Sisters
Composer: Jacob Jacobs, Sholom Secunda, and Barsoom Tork Associates
Midi: Bei Mir Bist Du Schön (Instrumental)
Midi: Bei Mir Bist Du Schön (Klezmer Version)
YouTube: Bei Mir Bist Du Schön (Andrews Sisters)

My Dear Bish Do Shame
Please let me explain
My Dear Bish Do Flame
Means a bundle

I could say "Drama, drama,"
Even say "What the fook?"
Each epithet helps to say
Why FT2's a kook

I've tried to explain
My Dear Bish Do Shame
So piss off and
Say you'll take the blame

My Dear Bish Do Shame
A mournful refrain
I'll say it again
My Dear Bish Do Flame
It means a scandal

CopyClef 2009 Jacob Jacobs, Sholom Secunda, and Barsoom Tork Associates.
North American Bupkis. All songs abused.

Honesty

Note this diff. Jehochman 16:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Giano RfC

Could you provide some diffs in your outside comments regarding Phil Sandifer? I think it would help others decide whether to endorse your comment or not if they could check and see for themselves the basis for your assertions. Cla68 (talk) 06:44, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Groan. All right—I suppose—though it's obviously hard to evidence my claim that there is nothing but flaming from Phil on that case. It's the truth, but I can't very well prove a negative. But I can drop in some diffs of the flaming, sure, if you think that would be useful. Thanks for getting in touch. Bishonen | talk 09:33, 16 January 2009 (UTC).

Pax equus

…if you come to that, Sir, have not the wisest of men

in all ages, not excepting Solomon himself,

have they not had their HOBBY-HORSES; --

their running horses, -- their coins and their

cockle-shells, their drums & their trumpets, their

fiddles, their pallets, -- their maggots and their butterflies? –

and so long as a man rides his HOBBY-HORSE peaceably

and quietly along the King’s highway, and neither compels

you or me to get up behind him, -- pray, Sir,

what have either you or I to do with it? – Tristram Shandy I vii

I don't know why this old passage struck me with such force today. It is, perhaps, because I have seen so many goading their mounts into a foaming mouth, rolling eyes, and screams of pain, as they ride not peaceably, and not along the highway, but through gardens, homes, and lawns, that I am attracted to this vision of calm. The as the same man says, and I find it to be a dictum worthy of engraving:

"If I should seem now and then to trifle upon the road, -- or should sometimes put on a fool’s cap with a bell to it, for a moment or two as we pass along, -- don’t fly off, -- but rather courteously give me credit for a little more wisdom than appears upon my outside; -- and as we jog on, either laugh with me, or at me, or in short do any thing, -- only keep your temper."

I spent $400 on a laptop, and the "A" key does not function, and the thing has no jack for an external keyboard. Grrrr. Returns are always battles, and battles over specks of turf, office windows, nails for pictures, name plates affixed with glue or tape, all seem so hopeless. Then, here, we see even less consequential matters. I am convinced, more and more, that the natural state of man is complaining. Adam and Eve were ejected because they were unhappy with all that bliss. Utgard Loki (talk) 14:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

1. "I had great respect for Alma," wrote Harriet later in an unpublished memoir. "Although she was always right when she commented on something, it wasn't easy... to hear her shouting at me... as I stood grieving, bent over my dear Axel's grave in Adam Oehlenschläger's Axel and Valborg, 'Harriet, don't stand there looking like a boiled shrimp.'"

I do try to look more like a fried shrimp than a boiled one. We have dwelt in the caverns of the sea, by sea girls dipped in batter and oil, red and brown, till our A keys break, and we're down.

And then more being ordered around. Ordered here. Ordered there. Ordered to salute, to sit, to kneel, to lick the boot, to boot the lickers, to bend the knee, to unbend the back, to upend the class, to classify the ends of the class, to calcify the process and ossify the result. It's enough to get anyone parched, parboiled, and then made into a pate, or a paté.

O Hellas Hellas, and a class with the entire Group W bench playing with their cigarettes and smoking their pencils....

In the immortal words of King Tut: "O misericordia! Everybody's being mean to me." Utgard Loki (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

O hélas! Alack! Bishonen | talk 21:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC).

Fnaaaargh - fnaaaaaaaaaaggggh!

Whoops! Sorry, my mistake.... LessHeard vanU (talk) 23:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Innu.. ha! Innuendo at a helpless little woman forsooth! /me hits Mr Less Heard with her handbag and breaks out the mace. Catherine de Burgh (Lady) 23:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC).

Careful! You don't want to get any on your white gloves. Harridan la Tour, dame 01:54, January 17 2009 (UTC).

An admin walks into a bar with both hands full of canine feces and says, "Hey! Look what I almost stepped in!" Geogre (talk) 15:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

an admin or an arbitrator? Lsi john (talk) 01:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

RfAr Re : Bishzilla

The request for arbitration named above has been declined as superseded by motion :

• Bishzilla (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) is strongly admonished for her conduct in this matter. She is advised not to block users to force further discussion or action on an issue, nor to increase the pace of an issue, and not to take administrator actions with respect to disputes in which she is involved. Bishzilla is warned that any further such incidents are likely to lead to the suspension or revocation of her administrator privileges.

For the Arbitration Committee,
Mailer Diablo 14:44, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

• Giano (talk) 15:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Bishzilla didn't do those things the first time, so I'm sure she'll have no problem not doing them "again." ("Thou has committed....") Utgard Loki (talk) 16:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

"B" means "Well above average"

Check this out: Acharya Mahapragya. It's a living legend and a purpose. Now, you might think that it's bad to have something like that, but it's had a tag on it for over a year, so that makes it alright. Anyone have an article rated below a B by the biography people should instantly go change it to A+, if this is a B. Utgard Loki (talk) 19:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I assumed it was self-assessed, but no. More than one independent assessor was involved too. Geogre would love that one. Yomangani 19:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Who is Peter Symonds, and why did he "decline" to speedy it? The thing is a bricolage of junk. It is every prose crime that could be committed. I'm sure "AfD" is why this piece of crap is here in the first place: some dufus went to Google, said, "He's a real person KEEEEEEEEEEP" without any regard to how absolutely incurable the article is. Someone else then probably said, "AfD is not clean up, so I won't clean it up, and no one else will, and it will go for more years with tags on it, and Misplaced Pages will keep advertising to win converts to this living power and peace." Dang idjits. If this isn't a speedy delete, then we should all begin immediately preaching for our favorite yogi and politician. Utgard Loki (talk) 19:49, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

What a steaming pile of...! Yeah, that's a B. Now I know why my biographies aren't: they're not grandiose enough. If there were any need for discrediting the Bio project...or any project...this would be it. I decided, since I couldn't figure out a strenuous CSD category, to look to see what happened. Was this just a vandal edit? Nope. You have to go back to December of 2007 to find a version that resembles something found in an encyclopedia, and even that was junk. So, for over 14 months, we've been telling the world how this special person is more than a man, more than a god, more than the truth. Well, isn't that special? All that's missing is the "Version 1.0 DVD release" approval. Geogre (talk) 14:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like it should be reported at Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard? --Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 18:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I doubt Archie Mypraga, or however his "name" is (I think, and I'm not sure, that, in fact, this is some kind of title rather than name, so it shouldn't be a biography at all, but it's really, really hard to tell with folks who think that some jobs are reincarnated) will object to being called a terrestrial god, and it looks a whole lot like one of his acolytes has been busy, busy, busy, busy writing the article for a long time. No. It looks to me like admin boots are needed, a cart of dead herrings for slapping, and probably just deletion. I don't get why Misplaced Pages has articles on the equivalent of "holy man of the mountain" in the first place, or at least why those aren't strictly controlled so that they're about positions, not people. Then again, I'm just a whiskeypalian. Utgard Loki (talk) 18:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The very dull JV

Oh dear! It seems another of our heros has been deemed to be mediocre. Just another dull, run of the mill little man of no importance. I've always rather admired him. Giano (talk) 18:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

You mean he is not "more than a way, a living purpose?" Well, no wonder, then! Only profits get to be B. Utgard Loki (talk) 19:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Mid- importance, huh? Never mind, he designed amazing bathroom fitments. This has been low-importance from the start. The unimportance doesn't bother me, but the way it's said to be "supported" in that unimportance by WikiProject Sweden... grumble. Who invented portals, anyway? Bishonen | talk 19:38, 30 January 2009 (UTC).

I rather like portals, although they are for the more discerning editor; I have an amazing new one you must pass through it some time. Giano (talk) 20:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, too. I've improved it by adding a guard. Bishonen | talk 21:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC).

So I see! Thank you! More interestingly, I see there is be a London meet up with Ms Knott and James Forrester , obviously my invitation was lost in the post, all the same I think it may be time, to stroll down the Earl's Court Road to the V&A and shout "boo" from behind an artefact. Oh what a merry threesome we will be - a veritable Holy Trinity. I wonder who else is going? Why don't you hop over Bishonen dear (it does say: "people of all ages are welcome") - we could go skating at Somerset House afterwards - assuming the excitement hasn't killed us. Giano (talk) 22:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Note

I have nominated Buckingham Palace for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I would ignore that, since the notice was "not given." Apparently, some people are more eager than attentive. The FAR notice requires that the querulous one sign the post. I'm sure that you know that it's just Mattisse going back to old habits of re-nominating every time possible. This is why FAR is inherently deletion-worthy. It serves no positive function, and it gives jollies to warriors. Geogre (talk) 14:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Giano has replied very cogently. The article is on a kind of subject that makes it hard to maintain: hard always, and impossible if warriors get involved. Come to think of it, why don't I link to Giano's reply on the FAR page? I will. Bishonen | talk 18:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC).

As you wish. I saw Giano's comment, but I disagree. The article has been kept pretty proper, thanks to many watchful eyes, but what has doomed it is not the naughty schoolboy, but the officious fool. The "MoS says images must all be on Commons and deleted for any article that has both a left and a right margin, please see relevant sections of the Manual of Monsters and Pettifoggers, 9th ed., rev. B, 2/30/09, and comply" people and the trolling like Mattis will inevitably destroy it. I see in this repetition another demonstration of wider principles: FAR does not do anything. There is no "version 1.0," and to the degree that there is, it is not relying on FA (or so we have been assured by the Biography Assassment Teams and the Projectors), so removing an FA doesn't actually save anyone or achieve anything. All that it does is give the meaningless, incompetent, and incoherent a means by which they can compensate for their deficiencies. It also acts as another weapon of escalating annoyance. What it does not do is fix things. If our goal were ever to "improve" FA's, we'd have a drive to help them, not "remove" them. The pettiness and monomania of Mattisse is simply an excellent illustration of what's wrong with the skeevy heart of FARC. Geogre (talk) 22:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Unblock of DreamGuy

Hi Bishonen, Please can I make a process suggestion? There was a lot of fuss and waste of time when you complained on ANI about WMC blocking Dreamguy for "Edit-warring" when there was no 3RR. I am sure we all have better things to do. The correct process to challenge a block is on the users talk page with an unblock request so that another uninvolved admin can come and review the block. An ANI review is not a good process and doesn't work efficiently in review terms. The comment hangs around until sometime unblocks it rather than being subject to a clean review (in practice any number of admins see it and support the block but wouldn't mark it resolved). Perhaps you could explain to Dreamguy how to do this next time they get a block. Thanks --BozMo talk 13:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I understand your point, and I'm aware of how to use the unblock template. So is DreamGuy, see his page, where he immediately put up an unblock request when he found himself blocked. The reason I put the issue on ANI was that I thought it needed more eyes, and some discussion; not just review by one admin. William's reputation as a trigger-happy blocker, and Dream-Guy's reputation as an uncivil editor, made it a special case, IMO. I'm sorry you thought it a waste of time. Bishonen | talk 14:00, 4 February 2009 (UTC).

I have just done a section on "Arboropia". I hope BozMo reads it. AN/I seems like a good place to talk about an unwarranted block, particularly if there is a feeling that the community needs to caution the blocker. There are people running around hitting the "block" button frivolously, or emotionally, and then committing the more serious crime of not explaining themselves. Those people are inappropriate, if not mere bullies. Utgard Loki (talk) 14:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Read it. IMHO the block was fine (given it said edit warring not 3RR) and 75% of admins would have supported it. WMC has overturned the only block I have ever had overturned and I don't think he is remotely trigger happy, he is eye-wateringly fair. Perhaps AN/I would be a place to post it AFTER it had shown itself capable of being overturned by due process. --BozMo talk 14:27, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with taking a block review to ANI if another editor feels that the block needs prompt attention. I've done it several times myself (including well before I was an administrator) in cases where a block seemed questionable or needed greater attention than it would receive in the ordinary course. Of course, the blocking administrator should be notified, which was done here. (Not commenting on the merits of this particular block.) Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Brad. BozMo, I suppose those admins who "have better things to do" have the option of not getting involved in any ANI thread, or any other discussion, that they see as mere "fuss". Anyway, I was talking about William's reputation, not giving my personal opinion about his blocking practices (or my opinion about DreamGuy's civility, either). WMC certainly does have the rep of blocking early and blocking long. Perhaps that simply comes from the fact that he patrols WP:AN3 a lot; I haven't done a statistical study. Bishonen | talk 15:29, 4 February 2009 (UTC).

request; scene music

Hi Bishonen, could you please make searches for "scene music" forward to Music scene (programming). I'm not sure how to do this and may not be allowed to do this as an anonymous Misplaced Pages user. Thanks in advance. --82.171.70.54 (talk) 00:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry.. I'm even less sure. Bishonen | talk 17:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC).

Disrupting wikipedia to make a point

Please don't disrupt wikipedia to make a point. In fact please don't make any points at all. Please also recognise that it's rude to point, and is both disruptive to our charity work, and is clear trolling. Please consider yourself strongly admonished, and run along. Privatemusings (talk) 02:52, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Please do not make a point of pointing at Bishonen making a point. Besides, I disagree. I really like the Point. Trolls are pointless; they live in caves and demonstrate a complete lack of awareness of the world around them. Geogre (talk) 10:49, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

roundabouts are pointless too, and you're clearly missing the point - don't have a concrete cow, man....besides everyone knows trolls live under bridges, nowhere near caves. Privatemusings (talk) 12:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)gosh I hope I remember right that Bish might have passing knowledge of semi-obscure UK cultural references...... ;-)

Removal of reference from Bigfoot

I've reverted your removal of a reference from Bigfoot because I believe you misunderstood what the reference was for. Please see the talk page for details. —Fiziker  03:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Email

Sorry, it took a little while to compose my reply because of interruptions. You should have it now.   Will Beback  talk  07:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I probably should have included a "see below" in my email. At the bottom there's a quoted email about a related case. That earlier email explains some of the background.   Will Beback  talk  08:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I guess I'll leave it to the arbcom to handle. Bishonen | talk 15:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC).

Fido

Dear Mrs. Bishonen, regarding your recent edit to my user page please do not think me ungrateful or unappreciative, but you may not be aware that a great deal of time, thought and effort has gone into designing the beauty of my page, indeed it is my spiritual home, Palazzo Splendido, Cayman Islands. While it is indeed kind of you to loan me your Labrador it is unnecessary, the security is more than adequate. Only those editors of the highest calibre are invited to my Friday night poker and pool evenings in my humble games room (No, Jimbo you can't come) where your bust sits above the fireplace radiating charm. So please should you wish to reclaim Fido - please do. Giano (talk) 19:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Is that a hint of Mrs Giano in the mirror? Yomangani 15:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

No, it's a buck toothed female who kept following me about in case I trousered the sevres. Giano (talk) 15:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Tex's place is full of Bishzilla, I'm afraid. You'd better just turf the other creature in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch if it's superfluous! It's a water dragon anyway. Bishonen | talk 21:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC).

P.S. I see the dragon image was deleted as soon as I tried to use it. Sigh. :-( Bishonen | talk 21:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC).

I see the sculptor was sensitive enough to avert your gaze from the posterior elements of those taking a long shot from in front of the fireplace, how wise.--Alf 21:22, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL. Well, I insisted, as you may imagine! Bishonen | talk 21:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC).

So THAT's what Lady Bish looks like. Prim and proper, just as I envisioned...NOT! Aren't you the one who once told me that you were more of a "ROAR! girl" than a "Lady"? Anyway, love what the sculptor did to your hair! Tex (talk) 22:49, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

. "A ROAR! girl"..? Bishonen | talk 04:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC).

No offense meant, Ma'am. Tex likes a little ROAR in his women! Tex (talk) 15:23, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Fault

I understand that I am at fault, but please do not treat me as if I am the only one at fault.— Dædαlus 22:49, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Your understanding of the ANI carry-on seems to be imperfect. It would be more becoming if you stopped making excuses for yourself. Bishonen | talk 23:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC).

You're threatening to topic ban be because people were obviously baiting me. From as far as I can see, you appear to be taking their side. My understanding is imperfect? Are you saying then, that I am the only one at fault? I honestly think you need to take a look in a mirror.— Dædαlus 01:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

+Say what you're going to say, stop with the implications, if you were truely a good admin, you'd know I wasn't the only one at fault. It isn't my fault I was baited, but it is my fault for biting the bait. My view of the situation is fine, yours however needs to be looked at if you're going to say that I am the only one at fault here.— Dædαlus 01:24, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Lastly, exuses for myself? Please. It would be more becomming of you if you admitted your obvious bias to the situation, and kept yourself out of it, instead of threatening me and not the users you were baiting me. You threaten a single side, rather than both sides, even though it is quite obvious that all sides are being uncivil. You tell me about being more becoming? I'm surprised you were elected as an admin at all.— Dædαlus 02:08, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

• Bishonen | talk 05:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC).

Daedalus: (i) Bishonen performs her admin duties without fear or favour. I've been on her wrong side before, so accusations of bias on her part are not going to wash with me. (ii) This word "baiting" is doing the rounds, isn't it. Seems to have been started by Gwen Gale. Like "incivility", it can be used frivolously to gain an unfair advantage. Got it? Tony (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Museum of Bad Art

By the way, this was me, not David. Sorry about that. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

No, that was David all right. The first time was you. It was David's undoing of my original revert that got me aggravated, perhaps excessively so. Anyway, your edit wasn't the problem. Regards, Bishonen | talk 14:14, 10 March 2009 (UTC).

That dreary little FAC page.

Dearest Mrs Bishonen, I took luncheon, today, with my new dearest and closest friend Harriet Bosse (charming little woman, such an interesting life, not so interesting as mine of course) and she asked me to boom a message to you through the celestial stratas, and thank you so much for your dear little biography, and to say how much she looks forward to being on the main page, if that dreary FAC page passes, I have half a mind to go and haunt than nice Raul and Sandy (will they ever marry do you suppose? - he won't find another gal like that again - Men!). I digress, I cannot stay here chatting to you all day, I have a sitting with Tommy at 4, and then a thé dansant with Darling Ivor at 5. I must say, being dead does keep one busy. Ka of Catherine de Burgh (talk) 19:04, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I have just taken the time to read the page (all the way through) it realy is very good and interesting, I am just surprised that her late ladyship and others have not all rushed to support it on FAC. While I can excuse Lady C (on account of being dead) I can't help wondering where everyone else is, perhaps people spend so long politicing these days, no one actually reads a page anymore. Giano (talk) 09:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Some of us have important work to do and are, for real, overdue on projects. This is on top of any disaffection we might have experienced with the process or with persons. However, we keep meaning to. We've kept our meaning-to's for ages, but this one we may be able to dispense with soon. Geogre (talk) 10:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Please advise dear Lady C's ectoplasm that the dreary little FAC page is now a dreary little FA page! Bishonen | talk 23:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC).

• I hear my name reverberating across the celestial plains. Now, don't be tedious and grumpy Georgie, I'm quite sure Giano (such a good looking, talented boy) had only the higest intentions and was casting no aspersions. What an amazing achievement Mrs. Bishonen, Harriet is delighted, we were playing bridge with Aly and Larry when we heard (nice pair of boys, a little WHT trouble though). Anyhow, one just popped over to say congratulations; can't stop in a rush for luncheon with Noël (no fear of WHT there) and Darling Margot, you really must come and join us sometime, you'll find the company so much more stimulating than here. Love and kisses to all. Ka of Catherine de Burgh (talk) 08:29, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

FA review of Restoration comedy

Hello, I've nominated Restoration comedy for a featured article review here because it doesn't have any inline citations. I noticed that you're the main editor of the article so I thought I'd drop you a note. I think it's a good article but the lack of inline citations is a major issue that needs looking at. All the best, Downstage right (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah, I wrote that sucker, it's my first FA (five years ago). I do find it desperately dull to fiddle with old pages, but we shall see. I still have most of the books, but I don't recollect the page numbers (well, would you?). Anyway, I started in on it yesterday, but Mattisse's crap has put me off so much I'm no longer sure I'll finish it. It'll all come out in the wash I expect. Bishonen | talk 10:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC).

Yikes, sorry, didn't mean to tread on a hornet's nest! Downstage right (talk) 11:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Question from arbitrator on the Scientology case

Did you ever find out anything about the User:Truthtell sockpuppet? The proposed decision is being posted bit-by-bit if you have any thoughts about how it's progressing. Cool Hand Luke 17:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Luke, thanks for the link. I ended up interviewing several CheckUsers, who all said the same thing: that they would put Truthtell as "likely", at the least, to be JA's sock, even though there could be no absolute certainty, the IPs involved being dynamic. Clearly that wasn't, as such, worth taking back to the evidence page. What remains for me is the personal thing: I don't think JA would lie, and I've never known him to. Misplaced Pages isn't that important to him, for one thing. And I don't, in particular, think he'd lie to me. Those are my opinions—they're not evidence, obviously. That's why I never added anything to that evidence section. Bishonen | talk 18:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC).

Thanks. Yes, that sounds right. I reran it and circulated the evidence to other arbitrators. There's reasonable doubt in my mind, but I guess in the circumstances it would seem more likely than not. Maybe a misfortune of living in the same area. I don't know. Cool Hand Luke 17:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

DO WANT

Your featured cake is making me hungry. :-) Heimstern Läufer (talk) 07:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Swedish titles

I always stick them afterwards and nobody has complained yet (although I've written precisely one article this year and it didn't have any foreign titles to worry about) You've already sort of done that with Dramaten anyway. Yomangani 11:11, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

By the way, repeating that Baedeker quote twice in three paragraphs is uuuugggllly. Yomangani 11:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

It is? I thought it was all subtle. I'll fix it. Bishonen | talk 12:59, 24 March 2009 (UTC).

That's better. Why doesn't she die though? She just hangs out at the theatre slowly diminishing. It's romantic to think of her still drifting around on the wind in the wings but it doesn't satisfy my desire to see the article close with the slam of a coffin lid. If only she'd become terminally melancholic, what a way to go! Yomangani 17:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I see she's been starred. She can be immortal with no problems now then (at least until FAR). Yomangani 17:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, now Ka of Harriet can hang out with Ka of Catherine de Burgh (who I see has taken over Lady C's rollback—it's not just Bishzilla that's an uppity sock around here) in the wings of Dramaten (our main drama venue besides WP:RFAR). Luvly. Bishonen | talk 12:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC).

Sorry to but in on both of ye. Things got out of hand on Brontë, over nothing, again. Smacks were handed out, and it seems to be over until the next time. I have no answears at this point. Ceoil (talk) 11:46, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

No comment. Bishonen | talk 12:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC).

O whatever, I'll waste my sweetness else where I so suppose. Grand! Ceoil (talk) 14:07, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Over? Over? It seems to be over to you, does it? Take another look. Time for WP:SHUN. Bishonen | talk 00:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC).

I hear. I'm tired exhaused and a bit embarressed by all this at this stage. I'm not sure who you are shunning, nor do I really care by now. Too much heat from either side. Sick of friendly fire, all of it, and I have cut ties with Ottava. He is not open to help, and I'm getting older. The Lucy FAC revealed a lot of motives, and was a last straw for me when I was shot my both sides. Ceoil (talk) 21:00, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh I don't know, his steadily more frenzied and incomprehensible ramblings make me laugh. I wonder if he has a "Mad Libs" of WP arguments "You are a NOUN who doesn't understand NOUN because you come from LOCATION". "You are a SOCKPUPPET who doesn't understand DATE-DELINKING because you come from THE TOP SHELF IN MY KITCHEN" Yomangani 01:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Greetings

Just needed to clean up the accumulated botcrap sediments on my talkpage. While I'm here, I thought I might do something about a few BLP issues I have noticed.

Nice job on Harriet, by the way. Ågust needs an overhaul as well, but that's a huge undertaking. up◦land (talk) 23:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I had thoughts of Ågust, but just imagine the research..! Harriet was very manageable. Is that really botcrap you've got? Isn't it just crap? Considering that you have the {{bots|deny=all}} thingy, which seems to work for me. Anyway, lovely to see you! Bishonen | talk 23:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC).

Well, most of it was botcrap. I did not have the the anti-bot template on the page – I copied it from this page just now, as I had no idea how to keep the bots away before. I wonder if I should add some garlic and a crucifix or two, just to be on the safe side? up◦land (talk) 00:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Got a silver bullet for your muskedunder? I just sucked that template up into my clipboard and trotted over to your page to input it—and it was already there! Failing to check the history, I didn't know how new it was, though I could tell it came from here. I note you missed the handsome {{User:Maxypoda/zilla}} template, though. Try it! It's for scaring off bots and morons less well-informed users. Bishonen | talk 00:40, 30 March 2009 (UTC).

I tried my hand at that "Living people" project, but this HotCat "gadget" seems too run too slow on my old computer and I don't really want to get back into this anyway. I wonder if this article shouldn't be nominated on AFD (again). Someone who could be the subject is continually forced to make edits like this one. No idea how to judge notability, but he doesn't appear to be a full professor. up◦land (talk) 13:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Featured sleepyhead

I believe it's me. If only I were cute like that. The bear below, BTW, is just gorgeous. I'd like to smooch with it, perhaps after the vet has shot a tranquillizer dart into it. Tony (talk) 08:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Or use this trap to catch another cute creature. Shipping not included. Bishonen | talk 20:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC).

Games

No chance. I'm sick of the games played by either side, and the extent they will be taken to...that was a very wild chance you took there with me, you obviously think I am so stupid to be sucked in, but no. I'm finished with a full stop, not with a stategic pause. Lucy was a horrendous experience, and it was born of old gruges. No more, I want out. Ceoil (talk) 22:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

All right. I've had enough of your incomprehensible innuendos. You're not welcome here either. Bishonen | talk 00:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC).

Misplaced Pages:Date_formatting_and_linking_poll/Autoformatting_responses

Regarding your comments in opposition of date autoformatting, I'd like to make it clear that date autoformatting and date autolinking are two different issues. They're currently interconnected by the use of the bracket syntax around dates, but a recently-installed patch also allows for date autoformatting without linking, and other proposed solutions similarly disentangle the two issues. --Sapphic (talk) 00:27, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Ingmarssönerna in the Bosse article

Regarding the title of the film Harriet Bosse starred in. The Ingmarssons seems to be Waal's own translation of the title (really just a translation of the determined form, not the actual words). Sons of Ingmar is the official English title, and as the Misplaced Pages article is an article of its own, not dependent on Waal's book, I think it should be used. Though the film was originally released under a different title in the UK, it is referred to as Sons of Ingmar in all modern sources I can find, with Waal's book seemingly being the only exception. At least I think the title in the Bosse article should link to the article about the film. Smetanahue (talk) 00:28, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Go ahead. Bishonen | talk 09:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC).

Date autoformatting poll

Hi Bish, I noticed that like me, you are opposed to any form of dates autoformatting. Thanks for your support. I have created some userboxes which you might like to add to your userspace to indicate your position. You will find the boxes here. Ohconfucius (talk) 06:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Oh, but I use very few userboxes. Bishonen | talk 15:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC).

As the Earth rotates

....I am relieved that someone on the other side of it is keeping an eye on matters of consequence. I can go to bed knowing that it is in your capable hands. With Daylight Saving, it will be April 2 in 16 minutes.....YAWN! Amandajm (talk) 12:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

I suppose you mean the Dead Parrot Sketch? Bishonen | talk 12:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC).

Dead parrot! What dead parrot? What on earth are you talking about? Last time someone mentioned a dead parrot, I took a look at my budgerigiar and found him sleeping happily in the bottom of his cage with his four little feet in the air. I'm sure whatever I meant was deep and meaningful and very well meant indeed. But I'm getting a little folgetfurf as I age. How is our dear friend Lady Catherine? I haven't seen her around the traps for some time? Is she still in the land of the living? Amandajm (talk) 11:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Alas no, Lady C has left us and become a sunbeam. I must refer you to user:Ka of Catherine de Burgh. Is your budgie a Norwegian Blue? Bishonen | talk 12:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC).

Unblock

Thanks for that. We haven't seen eye to eye on much, but thank you for unblocking Nishidani before too much time had passed. We need people like him around. (The seeming suggestion that we were bloc voting as friends was... clearly made in ignorance ;-)Avruch 23:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Mm. A cool-down block where it was the admin that needed a cool-down period, I guess. See . Bishonen | talk 00:29, 2 April 2009 (UTC).

Oh, stop trolling. Grr. Jehochman 00:34, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe later. Do you know where I keep them? Here. Bishonen | talk 00:41, 2 April 2009 (UTC).

Your astute comments

I read your very to the point commments here. Thank you, it was worrying that so many seem to admire and endorse such behaviour. Your comments were a welcome breath of fresh air. Nothing much surprises me he here any longer, but that such a person dares to run for Adminship is more than concerning. Giano (talk) 12:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Glad you liked my post. I'm sorry it lead by indirection to a block for you, and to the usual whining from the usuals.; But I don't suppose you care that much? Bishonen | talk 11:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC).

My Budgie

My Budgie is most definitely not a Norwegian Blue, which is only found in a Norwegian Wood. My budgie comes from Coonamble..... or maybe it was Cootamundra... I forget which. He learnt to talk while hanging around the shearing sheds, and has quite a vocabulary.

I am so sorry to learn that our much esteeemed Lady Catherine has "passed away". I do hope that she keeps in touch! My heartfelt condolences to you and all the family.

Amandajm (talk) 06:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Expedited motions and decisions (draft arbitration policy)

Not sure if you were aware, but there is currently a community discussion of a draft of the arbitration policy. Back in January, I promised Yomangani that I'd make sure the issue of expedited motions was discussed, so I've started a discussion section here and invited those who this affected, or who asked about this at the time. I hope you will have time to comment there. Carcharoth (talk) 02:19, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Easter

Uh.. ah.. what a, hm, lovely little fellow . Can I call him Giano III? Let's release him on the site and see which of us gets blocked first. Bishonen | talk 20:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC).

It's Ciano, not Giano! Ciano is short for Feliciano; Giano is short for...Oh never mind; do I have to explain everything in minute detail? Just beware if he escapes their could be carnage, he takes no prisoners. Giano (talk) 20:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Stab me with your sharpest pen

I've nominated gamma ray burst for WP:FAC. (Well, one of my minions did on my behalf.) Jehochman 23:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

My Collected Pettiness added. More later. Bishonen | talk 06:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC).

Thank you. Have you been watching Monsters vs. Aliens? Ginourmous, is that like Ginormica? Jehochman 14:05, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Restoration Comedy

How very sad, but I have heard that many restoration comedies were written by pen wielding skeletons and furetti, and the article does not mention that; I ecpect if you add this missing nformation the common masses will press for it to be elevated to featured status again. Giano (talk) 22:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I keep waiting for anyone to explain anything good that has ever come from FAR. What positive effect has been had by it? I'm entirely serious. What function has it served? Running out of storage space for all the excellent articles, were we? Changes in formatting were tantamount to changes in content, were they? There are no solutions other than FAR? There are no solutions like, say, having the date listed in the FA tag -- oh, wait, that's already done! -- that would allow people to recognize a 2003 from a 2009, so that they could tell, oh, Exploding whales from Emma Watson (two whole screens long on a 19 year old, and it even has sections on "early life" verses later, and gobs and slops of references to websites). No, Restoration comedy certainly can't be compared to Emma Watson, isn't in the same class at all, shouldn't have the same designation. Meanwhile, why FAR exists, I still don't know. Geogre (talk) 10:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

FARC exists because it gives some people, who enjoy such passtimes, the excuse to insult the work of others and get away with it. There is also a breed of people who love rules, conformity and similarity and then prefer to spend their lives imposing such diktats on the works of others, in this way they imagine that they appear very useful and clever without having to actually having to spend the time proving their brains by researching pages themselves. It take 2 minutes to destroy an featured article and over two months to create one - so the advantages of destroying over creating are pretty obvious. Why such people don't want to concentrate their talents on those many truly dreadful pages which wikipedia has is also obvious - they get more attention at the top of the tree than at the bottom. It is well known that I detest FARC and all those who regularly use its spacce for their own ends. This is not a massive assumption of bad faith, it is an observation gained over years spent writing on Misplaced Pages. Giano (talk) 12:07, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Pardon me for kibitzing, but ... Geogre: I keep waiting for anyone to explain anything good that has ever come from FAR. The improvement to El Lissitsky. "FAR" pain in bum lasted from 29 Sep to 25 Oct 2008. I don't know the degree to which this pissed off others, but it certainly pissed me off (see my comment there). Improvement to article. I do concede, however, that at the time I was keener to strangle this Tiger person than I was to improve the article. -- Hoary (talk) 16:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Uh, the improvement is rather underwhelming, rather formal, not very much having to do with the contents, information, or substance in any way, that I can see. It's exactly the sort of thing that could have happened if the fellow had, with some grain or crystal of personality in his soul, accomplished by simply contacting the primary author and saying that there are all sorts of formatting things that seem to be off and to bear with him and let him run a trial by you, then to go do a version, and then the two of you discuss and agree. Unimaginable that, though. Asking people to talk! Asking people to negotiate! Asking people to collaborate! Hah! "This is clearly not an FA, and it must be demoted unless the following 27 arbitrarily chosen fetishes are fulfilled: 1. the author must dance around in a tutu, 2. the author must move all the images to the bottom, 3. the author must make all the images fit my browser, 4. the author must come remove Cornfckr from my computer, 5...."Geogre (talk) 09:58, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

What could be done well by FAR(C) would be done better by volunteer (workers) who communicate and participate. Geogre (talk) 09:58, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I can't argue with any of that. -- Hoary (talk) 13:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Sub-section rant

Turning to rant in another direction, but still on the subject of vital information, I have noticed of late that pages are developing advice on how to pronounce them. Am I the only person in the world who has not a clue how thes symbols are suppoes to help one? Today, I saw this stunnning advice: "(pronounced /ˈbluːmənˌθɔːl/) " on a bio page - Sorry? ..Duh..WTF? How is that suposed to help anyone - and more to the point who is it supposed ot be helping? It's rather similar to that demented woman flapping about like a one legged crow distracting the audience at Covent Garden these days. In the interval, when I asked why she had not been forcibly removed, I was told that her implematation was a condition of a Government grant, and she was actually signalling the words of the opera to the deaf. FGS how many sensible deaf people are going to pay the extortionate price of going to Covent Harden if they cant't hear it when they get there - the world has gone quite mad. Giano (talk) 12:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Opera makes many of us wish we were deaf, and I think watching the one-legged crow might be more entertaining, but I'm not sure how much I would pay. Now, Mr. Blumethal might, but he's a man of means and speaks fluent IPA. Myself, I prefer to drink IPA than speak it and regard the project, outside of linguistics, where even among the lunatics who devote their lives to fixing the mercury of the ever-shifting bucket/pail line, it's of limited use, as another Esperanto. Utgard Loki (talk) 13:02, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

• Rubbish, opera is entertainment for the soul. IPA? Is that what it is, well it says on its page "The IPA is designed to represent only those qualities of speech that are distinctive in spoken language" Well sorry, but my spoken language does not include dits and back slashed, even indistinctly. Why on earth has Misplaced Pages got to have this mumbo jumbo plastered over every page? Giano (talk) 13:23, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Because, dear fellow, this is the standard notation and is understood by a large and growing number of people (larger than understand any alternative) that unfortunately happens not to include yourself. Rather than "(pronounced /ˈbluːmənˌθɔːl/)", would you prefer "first two syllables pronounced to rhyme with the first two of 'room and board' (in rapid speech), and third syllable like an r-less 'thrall'"? Likewise, the architecturally underinformed are given descriptions in terms of clerestories and so forth, and ... well, they have to lump it. ¶ Now, what does make me depressed today is that Clement Freud has died. -- Hoary (talk) 16:19, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh he was the man with the dog wasn't he? Giano (talk) 16:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Hoary, that's really saddened me - and I heard about it here is troubling too - clearly I've been abducted by aliens again and false memories implanted........--Joopercoopers (talk) 13:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah, a fellow admirer; I'm glad to learn I'm not alone. Whenever I've been in Britain, I've listened out for Just a Minute. If, as was usual, Freud was a contestant, I listened; if he wasn't, I didn't bother. Occasionally there'd be somebody who'd be in the same league. They had the the obvious jokes, Freud had few if any; but listening to Freud was not unlike watching Buster Keaton, bringing few laughs but a great glow. -- Hoary (talk) 13:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Back to subject

That's a very sad edit . If you abandon it, who do you suppose is capable of taking care if it - Mattisse or one of her chums? C'mon don't make me laugh. It's not the page's fault it was atacked, it needs someone to protect it from vandals and idiots. In short, it needs you. Giano (talk) 18:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, sweetie, but I'm sure the knowledgeable users X, Y, and Z will take good care of it. In any case, would it have been worth a WP:BATTLE? No, it wouldn't. Bishonen | talk 20:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC).

Well of course, in my view, content triumphs over all, so I cannot agree with you. However, I do sincerely admire you massive assumption of good faith regarding users X, Y and Z. How I wish I could beleive with the innocence of a lamb, or whatever the expression is. Sadly, my thrice arownd the Wiki block has put pay to any such naive assumptions. Giano (talk) 21:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

And has ruined your sarcasm monitor? Sad, sad. Bishonen | talk 21:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC).

I demand that the images be resized to display "properly" on my sarcasm monitor. My sarcasm monitor is a CGA VESA complaint operated by CP/M in the Malawian library system. Now, adjust all images, or I move to demote the article. Geogre (talk) 12:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Help Required

Can you move the history back to where it belongs as reiquired here please Honestly, before long we shall have every monarch who ever reigned disambiguated to a list or pubs and hotels - one despairs. Giano (talk) 10:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh god, you made a cut-and-paste move? Remind me to despair, too, Giacomo. I can't handle a history like that, sorry. I've never fixed a cp move. Please ask somebody smarter (shouldn't be hard to find). Bishonen | talk 18:05, 19 April 2009 (UTC).

You are such a disappointment to me (that nice Risky lady would do it), what is the point of knowing Admins if they won't administrate. Do I hire a butler (Jimbo says we have to be professional) and serve the drinks myself? No, I do not. You have your mop and bucket, now you say you don't want to mop, I can see what is coming, I shall have to become an Admin myself, I go nominate now me - but I refuse to wear the peaky cap and sing the Wiki-song beneath Jimbo's balcony each morning. SO i expect people will object. It will be your fault, I am not accustomed to servitude. Giano (talk) 18:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I look at form and page - too complicated, can you do it for me, just say I promise to be good blah di dblah di blah. Vote for me and we all have a happy wiki. Giano (talk) 18:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I've done it. BJ 19:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh that is clever, thank you very much indeed. Perhaps, you can give poor Bishonen some lessons. when I am an Admin (in the near future) I shall do that type of thing all the time. Giano (talk) 19:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Accusation of sock-puppetry by user Locke_Cole

Hi. As you took an interest when you posted your "Serious Business" comment (here), I would like to ask you what the next step in the process should be. As background, Locke_Cole made an allegation (here) that Tony1 and I were involved in sock-puppetry. I assumed good faith and tried to lighten the mood by giving Locke_Cole a way out of the allegations (here). Not only was this olive branch ignored by Locke_Cole, but he continued with his allegations (here). Since then, I've ask twice for Locke_Cole to withdraw his allegations (here and here)—the first was ignored, and the second was deleted. As my reputation at WP has been brought into question, I would like both the opportunity to clear my name, and for the appropriate action to be brought against user Locke_Cole when the allegations turn out to be false. (Not sure if I need to, but) I give full permission for the CheckUser mechanism to be used in order to resolve this issue. Thanks for your help in this matter.  HWV258  23:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

That's bad. Really bad behaviour. I'm not one to hand out blocks for personal attacks, but with this persistence from Locke I suppose I'll have to make an exception—with an explicit warning first, of course. Btw I note he removed your last request with an abusive edit summary, too.

The CheckUser thing is a bit problematic. In the first place, CheckUser results can't disprove sock accusations, ever. Secondly, while a CheckUser—Dmcdevit—has checked you out at your own request, he pointed out that it would be inappropriate to invade the privacy of Tony1, who hasn't made any such request. That means the check is only partial. That said, Dmcdevit found no reason to suppose it was a case of socking.

Locke is still ignoring what I told him about mentioning the incident on the Date Delinking evidence page. So I guess I'd better go mention it. Back later. Bishonen | talk 10:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC).

Thanks for your attention to this. Please note that despite a wishy-washy and conditional withdrawal ("If it makes you get warm fuzzies...") of the allegation (here), Locke_Cole has managed to continue the allegation in the same post with: "...he might as well be a sockpuppet...". Weirdest "withdrawal" I've ever seen.  HWV258  23:01, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, isn't it time to forget it, HWV? Locke's boorishness reflects on and damages him, not you. Did you see this, btw? Bishonen withdraws to enjoy the warm fuzzies | talk 23:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC).

• Yes, perhaps we should let it go. I've just realised that most of his other allies have jumped, some have joined with those who oppose date-autoformatting, yet the Captain is still aboard, thinking he must be doing the honourable thing to go down with the goodship SS Dynamic Dates. It's lonely there on his bridge. His honour, or what's left of it, is all that he has now. Ohconfucius (talk) 02:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Since that particular RFAR is overwhelmingly clogged up, I thought I would leave a note here where perhaps someone might actually see it to let all involved know that Bishonen's evidence as linked above has been seen, and I will draw it to the attention of my colleagues. Risker (talk) 18:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Bishonen | talk 21:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC).

And speaking of IPA...

Here is the very first sentence of the very first paragraph of one of WP's country articles:

Lovely, isn't it?

We had a WP editor with an IQ above room temperature who challenged this and tried to make it more reader-friendly. Needless to say, he was thwarted by a couple of moronic editors at every turn. Eventually he hurled some choice epithets at them and got himself indef blocked. Some of the carnage can still be seen at User talk:TungstenCarbide.

And so it goes, as they say on Tralfamadore.--Goodmorningworld (talk) 18:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Vintagekits' unblock

this and this certainly go over the line; the first one, particularly, makes no mention of her actions as an admin. Ironholds (talk) 13:50, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps you didn't notice the header of this. And please note that it's admins that are supposed to be role models for ordinary users, not the other way round. (WP:ADMIN: "Administrators are expected to lead by example".) Reading BrownHairedGirl's responses to Vintagekits on her talkpage, I can easily understand his frustration. Bishonen | talk 14:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC).