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明けましておめでとうございます

Dear friend. Yes, it has been far too long. I was delighted with your note, and to hear from you. I would indeed like to contribute collaboratively to Japanese articles. I did promise to improve the Murayama Shichiro one - I have 7 of his books, well-thumbed, by me, languishing despite the best intentions. It is just that, call it masochistic scruple, I tend by character to put duty before pleasure: in this case, trying to correct a notoriously bad area of wiki by getting some balance, and notional and historical redress for a tragically misused people. I feel a twinge of conscience at the idea of doing comparatively easy articles, when so many are hard, because politicized, and lie in neglect. I reflect that your erudition here deserves as much companionate assistance as possible. Yet, that other area really monopolizes one's energies. Of course, as you may observe in the adieu in my last archive, I've forsaken even I/P articles until the grievous abuse, as I see it, of administrative powers is removed from my page. I decided not to do whatever I might be able to do for wiki articles generally, until this kind of gaming of the system by private off-page influence peddling stops. I only came back, and broke this undertaking, because, well, some things simply cry out for balance, and lives are at stake when so much hasbara has convinced the mainstream press to blinker down its critical or sceptical gaze, thereby disallowing, in the absence of precise information, a public awareness that we are, by this horror, and our own relative insouciance to it, drifting into madness. Christ that sounds pompous. I'd better shut up. Archive this private letter immediately. I don't exclude coming back to the Japanese materials, if I see some improvement in administrative oversight and balance in the I/P articles. It would be a relief. If, from time to time, there is some point where I might be able to imaginably dig up something you can't, let me know of course. Best wishes Nishidani (talk) 13:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Kanji

Hi! I reverted this and noticed incorrect information about 今朝. There's a word konchou, you know. . But I do not know how to correct it. It would be grateful if you have time and correct it. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 16:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mari. That edit which you reverted was correct. <kyō> and <kesa> are cognate (同源) in the initial morpheme (/ke/). Understanding the historical phonological changes and etymology should clarify the matter: > > * (ハ行転呼) > > . This initial /ke/ is cognate with /ka/ (日, cf. /ituka/, /kokonoka/ via vowel ablaut (母音交替) and means "day". /hu/ (or "fu" if you prefer), too, is cognate with /hi/ (日) again via vowel ablaut. <kesa> "this morning" is the same /ke/ "day" and /asa/ "morning". However, vowel clusters were not permitted in Old Japanese and they dropped out via elision. Hence, */ke.asa/ > /kesa.

The fact that 今朝 may also be read as konchō, a separate lexical term, is not really the point of the passage. The topic is the word <kesa> and how it is written in kanji, not just the kanji alone.

Regards, Bendono (talk) 02:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

PS I added an entry for konchō here. Bendono (talk) 03:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Oops I did it again. I self reverted. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 05:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Torikaebaya Monogatari

On February 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Torikaebaya Monogatari, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 20:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Mumyōzōshi

On April 27, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mumyōzōshi, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 08:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Hamamatsu Chūnagon Monogatari

On May 2, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hamamatsu Chūnagon Monogatari, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 19:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Seeking help in presenting thoughts clearly

I write to ask for prospective help. In a sense, I'm only interested laying the foundation for the I-don't-know-what in the future. Perhaps this may be construed as taking steps to avert problems might be mitigated by a timely comment or suggestion ...?

ArbCom remedy

Voting is underway at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty/Proposed decision. In part because of "Evidence presented by Caspian blue", the locus of dispute was modified and "evidence in the case has expanded to include other disputes in which Tenmei has been involved." You will be surprised to learn that Bendono has anything at all to do with this so-called "evidence" at "Tenmei's wikihounding and trolling". I don't think this timeless prose is worth struggling to read, but I mention the links to explain a bit more of the reasons why I'm reaching out to you specifically

ArbCom findings of fact included:

• 3.2.2 Tenmei and dispute resolution. "... many of Tenmei's talkpage posts and submissions during this arbitration case have been very difficult for other editors to understand, to the point that experienced participants in dispute resolution have had difficulty in following them, despite what we accept as Tenmei's good-faith best efforts to assist us in resolving the case."

ArbCom remedies included:

• 3.3.2 Tenmei and dispute resolution: "Should Tenmei become involved in any further disputes with other editors, whether concerning the content of articles (beyond ordinary day-to-day editing issues) or more formal dispute resolution procedures, he shall seek the assistance of a volunteer mentor or adviser to work with him in maximizing the value of his presentation by assisting him with formulating it in a clear and civil fashion."

• 3.3.3 Editors advised: "Editors who encounter difficulties in communicating with others on-wiki are advised to seek help from others in presenting their thoughts clearly, particularly when disputes arise or when dispute resolution is sought."

It is clear that ArbCom anticipates future difficulties; and I guess I need to do the same. Arguably, my previous postings on your talk page are congruent with exactly the sort of thing ArbCom wants me to do in future; and I'm willing to invest in learning about how to disagree without being disagreeable.

If you want to discuss this off-wiki, I'm working on figuring out how to set up an appropriate e-mail address. -- Tenmei (talk) 17:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)