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Archives

Archive 1

User talk:Ssilvers/Archive DYKs and stars‎

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Misc. Notes from 2006 and 2007

I think it looks great. Keep up the good work. —Khoikhoi 01:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for being helpful. My English music books used Mazeppa, Maria, Andrei, Kochubey (Kochubey is not a Russian, but Tatar name). (meladina 16:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC))

Thanks for slicing up some of my more grotesquely long sentences in Opera the other day. I'm on a bit of drive to get the article up to GA standard, so thanks for all the help. Cheers, Moreschi 16:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Kashchey the Immortal (opera) - Thanks for the help; I've just finished off the copy-editing. Cheers, Moreschi 19:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the kind words.... I'm very tempted to help out at Opera. In fact my next plan was to rework the French Opera section, which has been chopped off that article. Cheers. --Folantin 08:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for all the info you added to The Magic Show! - Brian Kendig 13:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Boyd Neel - Thank you for your kind words (and the corroborative detail).... It's a pleasure doing business with you, sir! - Tim riley 21:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Camelot (musical) thanks you! Wow, Ssilvers, you are awesome! Thanks so much for such a quick fix on the Camelot article! I will add to it as I can. :) Thanks! Estreya 18:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Tom Eyen - Thank you for cleaning up my mess! I'm speechless - it's so well done! --Eric Eyen 02:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your kind note and for your careful reviews and help at Encyclopædia Britannica; I think it's an article we all can be proud of.... I'm grateful that you corrected that comma error that had been peppering my writing for ages. Looking forward to working with you again in Misplaced Pages, Willow 10:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice welcoming note! I was going to see an amateur production of Princess Ida at MIT last night, so I wanted to learn a little about it. The article was very helpful! I love G&S, but I probably will just do little typo edits here and there as I find them. Thanks again! Purkowitz 14:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your effort and added info with Malfitano. She is a great singer and it was sad to notice that the existing writings about her were too brief. It would be great if we could get some photos of her. I will write to her agent, hopefully they could provide us with photos to be published (with written permission, of course). - Jay 02:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice work on the Buddy - The Buddy Holly Story yesterday/today. Concerning the expanded synopisis version that was severely edited a while back - IT WAS MUCH BETTER. Sorry it kept getting cut. It should simply have been re-written to avoid verbatim website quotes. It should not of been deleted, though. I will support you in defending against any attempts to ruin this article again. Smatprt 14:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! :-)Nrswanson 07:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Your work on Michael Mayer (director) - WOW. Thank you! I knew that once people realized this major theatrical figure had no article at all, it'd get fixed quickly, but the early version was so disorganized, and it's lovely to see what you've done with it overnight.

Diana Fortuna Photo - Thanks for cleaning up the summary :) DraxusD 05:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help cleaning up my edits on Parade - I honestly thought I was alone on this one! Docta247 13:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome :) I'm Chris Angelico, Savoynetter and fairly active but with no particular qualifications or special skills in G&S. A newbie in editing, which is probably obvious to all, unfortunately. -- Rosuav (talk • contribs) 05:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Piano Bar

Hi, Ssilvers, I am Ron Kert from Tampa, FL (wikipedia user-name "ronkert"). Thank You for your additions to the "Piano Bar" article that I submitted. I also am an amateur singer, and a "piano bar junkie". Although I enjoyed "La Boheme" and love most types of music, I sing songs from these genres: "Standards" from the 1920's to 1950's, 50's and 60's Rock'n'Roll, some 70's and 80's light Rock and Rock ballads, Blues, a couple of show tunes, a few Country tunes. I'm currently on one of my bi-annual out-of-state "piano bar" vacations in the DC / northern Virginia area.

Savoyards

Good work. Several of these performers are familiar to me because of the film Topsy Turvy, wihch I've seen at least half a dozen times. They needed to be included in Misplaced Pages. Charivari 02:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! You took this a lot farther than I ever imagined it would go. Marc Shepherd 19:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Golden Legend

Saw your additions and copy edits. Thanks. I had considered adding specific information about the Hyperion release (it is the first full length recording), but wasn't sure it was appropriate. I'll probably be doing some similar work on other compositions by Sullivan. Shsilver 19:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hot Mikado

Thanks for your attention to this article - it helps to have another perspective, particularly one from the musicals / G&S point of view, and not the "HEY MY HIGH SCHOOL DID THAT!" point of view.... Thanks again. QBKooky 18:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Mountebanks; Major article template, etc.

Thanks for the Song list! Added in character names whilst I was at it. Also, I've done a tweak to Template:Gilbert and Sullivan - That look good to you? Vanished user 23:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Malcolm Sargent

It turned out very well. I didn't know about that 1936 interview. Did you ever hear the old joke about Sargent? Supposedly he gets into a cab. The driver says, "Where to?" Sargent says, "It doesn't matter; they want me everywhere." Marc Shepherd 13:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Early British Musicals

Thanks for the messages. I had only the briefest look after your first, but it all looked like great stuff.... --GuillaumeTell 07:17, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Savoy opera (and curtain raisers)

Nice work! 10:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

G&S

Thanks very much - I'm actually planning on writing up a few articles about some of the lesser Savoyards, as well as a couple of early G&S creators that really ought to be here (Frank Thornton, Fred Sullivan, and Selina Dolaro spring to mind). --AlbertHerring 17:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

W. S. Gilbert

Congrats on getting the article featured. Your hard work was impressive. Best, Moreschi 12:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

First barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Awarded to Ssilvers for his work on actors and actresses, minor operas, and everything else related to Gilbert and Sullivan and Victorian Theatre. You have single-handedly filled in many huge gaps in Misplaced Pages coverage. Vanished user 13:13, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

... and that goes from me too, his recent work on filling in the gaps and eliminating stubs in London theatre is only matched by his patience with my lack of knowledge and his ability to collaborate. Kbthompson 18:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Theatre Articles: Notes of thanks

Gallery of Illustration - Many thanks for your modest but spot-on improvements to the initial entry on the Royal Gallery of Illustration!! Rapotter 03:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Globe, Royalty and St James's Theatres - Gracious me! How much you have improved the presentation. As suggested, I have run up a piece on the Globe, which would benefit from the Ssilvers treatment, had you but world enough and time. Tim riley 10:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

This corner of the Misplaced Pages site owes such a lot to you. - Tim riley 23:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your work on this article. The images make a big difference as well as noting the stars and the plays. David Lauder 08:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for making the Haymarket Theatre piece look good. ...Tim Riley 10:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't thank you for the addn info on the Empire Theatre. I added a testimonial to your barnstar! But I don't know how these things get decided on, so left it as barnstar + bar. The London theatres have been a joy... Kbthompson 18:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

St Georges Theatre - Belated thanks for that, it almost looks like an article now. I took the liberty of adding a gee-gaw to your front page (a case of I saw this and thought of you, I have to wait another month!). I saw the recent comments at G&S, tough crowd. I think that's a bit harsh for GA, but something that definitely needs fixing for FA. Kbthompson 15:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Court Theatre - Congratulations on your reworking of the Royal Court Theatre. David Lauder 08:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Toye & Norris

Thank you once more for giving my text a wash and brush up. I feel rather guilty: I have all the fun and you do all the work. Well, great will be your reward in heaven. - Tim riley 22:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Arthur Sullivan

Nice rewrite! I was hoping that someone would: Previously it seemed to be saying that Sullivan went to Leipzig twice which looked dubious :-D  uriel8  (talk) 14:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The Window

Spot on, I'd say.... This was quite a serious gap in the coverage of Sullivan - now, happily, filled. Tim Riley 08:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Malcolm Sargent

You are very kind to take so much trouble, bless you! I'll look into the picture business tomorrow. Tim Riley 19:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

You asked me to take a look at the work that had been done on this, while I was away. I did look when I came back and thought it excellent - then forgot to let you know! (I probably remember more when I make negative comments). Kbthompson 09:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Great article. I added two photos (with fair use rationales, so there will be no problem)...egde 10:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

David Russell Hulme

You have done a lovely job on the article. Jack1956 18:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

The New Moon

Thanks for this. -- Kleinzach 23:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Musicals Article Structure

Read over, looks good! Much applause! You deserve a cookie - here's one!

Heck, take two! --omtay38 19:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

You rock!

'nuff said! --omtay38 00:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

The Story of Gilbert and Sullivan (film))

Yet again a fantastic contribution. Many thanks. Regarding David Russell Hulme, I have a photo somewhere that I took when I sang with him in the 1970s. If I can find it I'll scan it and upload it to the article. Jack1956 21:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Terence Rees and Scott Fishe

I love this... I write 4 sentences on an article Terence Rees‎ and go to bed and as if by magic the next day it's finished! And it's another brilliant article, much better than I could have created. Many thanks. I'll have a look at those articles you mentioned! Jack1956 17:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. You have done another great job by polishing up the Scott Fishe article to such a good standard. I wish I had your expertise. Jack1956 23:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Sullivan mss & George Sheringham

Infinitely obliged! -- Tim riley (talk) 22:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Imperial triple crown jewels

Your Imperial Majesty, even if these regalia are just stage props, it's nice to be able to hand them to you. May you wear them well. Durova 05:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

FAC comments

Okay, after implementing some of your suggestions from the FAC page and article talk page, and the work you and I have both done on the Plot Summary section, I think it looks a lot better. Thanks for your help. Diff. I also made some other minor edits and added some more info/analysis about the music/songs in the play. What do you think about the article's present quality status now? Cirt (talk) 11:15, 28 November 2007 (UTC).

Eugène Oudin; Bill Francoeur

Thanks for great job on Oudin.... Jack1956 (talk) 18:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on Francoeur. Melbrooksfan101 talk 04:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Trial by Jury - Gurneys

Well done on pursuing this. I have just finished reading the Elliott book which answers all the questions and I aspire to finding some time to work on all the articles but ... Cutler (talk) 09:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Fallen Fairies

I found a photo of Nancy McIntosh and uploaded it. Ther others weren't really of the show. I will search further and upload as appropriate ThanksBroadwaygal (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I added the image to the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Her Majesty's Theatre

... and to you both. It was a collaborative effort and without sane people around, I was beginning to chew my leg off... as it was, I got off with a limp. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 09:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Boer War Te Deum/Te Deum Laudamus (Sullivan)

I just started an article on the Boer War Te Deum this morning. It's a rough stub, and I am currently looking for more references. If you have time, could you take a look? Thanks Broadwaygal (talk) 18:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

"The Bob"

Thanks for your input! Typos will be the death of me, just so you know. I absolutely hate the one image available of Marshall, and I'm positive that he'd hate it too; it's the monkey suit. I contacted the Adirondack Museum to see if they can release an image or two under GFDL for me to use. I would love to get a similar pic to what I've seen in my book sources, with him grinning goofily while posing on mountaintops with grimy, exhausted looking guides. So we'll see. :) María (habla conmigo) 20:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Signor Brocolini

Rocked with mirth at reading about the origin of his name! Only one measly correction contributed. Another SSilvers coup. Tim riley (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Can't fault it- another brilliant piece of research and well-written. Jack1956 (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear Ss, I am very pleased to know about Sig. Brocolini, of whom I have never previously heard, but I think I have read somewhere that he was especially admired in a trio from La finta giardiniera with Mme Spinaci and the basso cantante Bruschetta, under the baton of the great Vermicelli. Keep up the good work, Eebahgum (talk) 00:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back and hello again. Nice job of discovery, and very thorough. And yes, he's a credit to my name, maybe. (Perhaps I need to change mine too. . .) JohnClarknew (talk) 23:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

James Conroy-Ward

The star is totally deserved. I have a programme for the 1975 performance of 'Utopia' somewhere, and will check it out, but presume that, as he is on the recording he must have been in the performance. GD I am less sure about. Jack1956 (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Never Forget

Thanks again for your help. I think the article looks great now! - certainly better than any other musicals in 2008.... Anyway, thanks again. -- Dave S Light Defender (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

If I could figure out how to give you a Barnstar (or a bouquet of flowers) I would. Thanks for the help on Bernadette Peters, she's looking good. I'll look at the article again next week, with fresh eyes, to see what other bits and pieces it might need. JeanColumbia (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Amy Evans

Thanks for the splendid overhaul.... -- Drhoehl (talk) 02:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hair Be-In

Hey ssilvers! .. didn't get a chance to trade contact info last night @ the Hair Be-In. Here's a link to my band's website http://www.gladshot.com/home.htm

Yeston

You've got more stamina than I! Article looks great, I made a few very minor edits, and added external links to articles on a few of his lesser known works.JeanColumbia (talk) 17:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Dolly

Thanks for editing my Hello, Dolly! Act One synopsis. It's so much more concise and well-written now!MarianKroy (talk) 20:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Great Job on Hair!

Hey! Just wanted to say thanks for all the great work! Sorry I couldn't be more help these last couple days. Love all the new stuff you added. Talk to you soon - User:Mblaxill 20:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Shoe: G&S articles/scholarship

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Gilbert_and_Sullivan/Marc_Shepherd's_Gilbert_and_Sullivan_Discography. See: Misplaced Pages:FCDW/June 26, 2008.

I wonder if it would ever be worth doing an article on G&S scholarship? You know, cover the major discoveries, describe the evolution of the field... or is that too likely to hit problems? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Aha! I have suggested this before. I think it would be great. It is a difficult job and requires library access. For journals, you may even have to write to the various different G&S societies to get back issues or whatever. I'll help if I can, but I can't go to the library on it. I think that some of the journals have online indexes to their old articles. Maybe Stephen Turnbull and Andrew Crowther can help you. Mitch Gillett might be able to help with GASBAG, and Angie Arnall might be able to help with The Gilbert and Sullivan News. Even more important, is the old Gilbert and Sullivan Journal, which is no longer published. Books are easier, and Ainger's list of references is a good place to start. Also, see this. Crowther's site lists various useful resources. Good luck! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Imperial Napoleonic triple crown

Gilbert & Sullivan for All

Hi Ssilvers, the article will appear on DYK tomorrow . This is entirely due to your contribution. Jack1956 (talk) 22:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Summer's over

Summer's almost over so back to work-or whatever it is that we all do! Welcome back, I've missed the conversations (so to speak....)JeanColumbia (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Royal Aquarium

Gosh! A splendid article. I had no idea the Royal Aquarium ever existed. I wonder if Whiteley might be better described as a retailer or some such rather than 'of Westbourne Grove'? Tim riley (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Barry Clark; Foggerty's Fairy

Lovely job, as usual. Many thanks. Jack1956 (talk) 07:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

And another fantastic job on Foggerty's Fairy. Absolutely brilliant! Jack1956 (talk) 07:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The Princess (poem)

Good stuff there. The Land Surveyor (talk) 18:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

		The WikiProject Musical Theatre Barnstar
		For your kind efforts to reach a common ground on musical article content, I award you my Musical Theatre Barnstar. Enjoy! Mizu onna sango15 20:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Who's Who

• The work quoted is Who Was Who, 1920–2007
• It was published in print by A & C Black, London
• The online edition was published by the Oxford University Press, December 2007 Tim riley (talk) 22:32, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Whittington

Thanks for the Barnstar...it is much appreciated. I had a look at Dick Whittingon (and his cat!) but you had done your usual excellent and comprehensive job so that there was little I could find to add. I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year. Jack1956 (talk) 08:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Best Wishes

Thespis

A Boxing Day treat on the front page. Most appropriate! Tim riley (talk) 09:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the help recently

Thomprod (talk) has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!

Your advice is always welcome. Thomprod (talk) 19:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Manuel Klein

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Alice May

Gosh! I'd never heard of her - and what a lot you've unearthed.... (Many thanks for rescuing me in re the NC pic, by the bye) Tim riley (talk) 09:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Haddon Hall

That really is very interesting and genuinely helpful. Many thanksOrdyg (talk) 20:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Henry Lytton

Keep up the good work; I'm particularly fond of musical theatre too and see you’ve contributed greatly to various articles on the subject! -- Vegan4Life (talk) 11:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

R. H. Burnside

Thanks for helping out. I know that he did a lot of G & S towards the end of his career... -- kosboot (talk) 03:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Eric Lewis (actor)

Wow! What an article! What could I possibly add? Instead, I've started a new one as an off-shoot of yours, Richard Corney Grain. Jack1956 (talk) 16:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Lovely job on Richard Corney Grain. Many thanks for your excellent input. Jack1956 (talk) 18:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Hamilton Clarke

Gosh! I got more than I bargained for: some top notch stuff there - thank you so much! I've piled Pelion on Ossa by rummaging in the archives of The Observer Tim riley (talk) 12:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Alice May

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The 50 DYK Medal

		The 50 DYK Medal
		Thank you for your invaluable contributions to the encyclopedia by creating so much great new content. Let this small token remind you that all of your hard work is appreciated by both readers and your fellow editors. Dravecky (talk) 06:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Fox

Thanks for the compliment - it was you who challenged me to create an article on her (I didn't think there would be that much). I look at your work for inspiration on format, organization, etc. Thanks! -- kosboot (talk) 12:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA?

Is there a reason you've never run for admin? I realize the process is appalling, but you seem eminently qualified and the pain only lasts a week.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

DYKs

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E. H. Sothern

Am mortified at lumbering you with the hard labour on the wrong Mr Sothern! Abject grovel. A jolly good job you've made, too, if I may say so. As no good deed goes unpunished, may I trouble you to look at the changes I've made to the article on Max Adrian. Tim riley (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Gretchen (play)

This is a very good article. The only suggestion is to move the Analysis section after the synopsis. This isn't a play most readers will be familiar with, and the analysis is difficult to follow unless you already know what happens in the story. Marc Shepherd (talk) 14:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

DYKs

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Present Laughter

I hate you. The article is so much improved after your changes. Tim riley (talk) 20:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I can't help it if I'm wonderful. Actually, it's all your stuff, I just put it in the blender and spread it around a little. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Gretchen (play)

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Victor Herbert

Hi there. Just got your message. I will be adding page numbers after I am finished adding content.... At the moment I have several projects going at once so it may be a number of weeks before everything is in order at the Victor Herbert article. Thank you, by the way, for correcting some of my typos, making editorial judgements, and adding an excellent lead. Cheers.Nrswanson (talk) 22:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Great additions to Pauline Joran - thanks!

I'm very impressed with the additional info - real improvement, so thanks. Incidentally, a small note - I hope you don't mind, but I corrected back a couple of references to the daughter's name - it's definitely "Paulise" with a S. I think it's been a long running cause of confusion, but Pauline's daughter is definitely Paulise with a S - see "The Art of Dress" by Jane Ashelford and National Trust publications regarding the Paulise de Bush costume collection at Killerton House. (probably easier to get hold of than journals for the Costume Society!) Best regards, Mabalu (talk) 09:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Noël Coward

Article has passed GA review. I have sent thanks to Otto4711 for his thoroughness and help. I need hardly say – but nonetheless do – how grateful I am for the Ssilvers magic touch passim. Now at your service for the Carte clan. Tim riley (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Much touched by your addition to my user page. A pleasure to do business with you, sir. If I knew how I'd add a similar gong to yours. Pray take the will for the deed. Tim riley (talk) 15:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

This Happy Breed

That's so much better - bless you! Shall look out the additional info you suggest. Have sent a separate communication about a possible NC photograph. Tim riley (talk) 17:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Noel Coward FA

Hi, Thank you for showing me that the poster is for another use. I have only one image concern left as stated on the FAC. Is it possible to get that first press photo of Coward, in dressing gown, on a bed, smoking a cigerette? I believe that is more pertinent to the paragraph next to File:Coward with-cigarette-holder.jpg, seeing how it talks of Coward's consternation at being equated to look like a "Chinese decadent" (which would require imagery!). Thank you for your patience with me on the image issues as well. Jappalang (talk) 06:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on a successful nomination and on your efforts to get the article's excellent qualities recognised by the powers that be. Jack1956 (talk) 07:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I second that. I was pleased to work on the article at PR, and am delighted to see its deserved promotion. Brianboulton (talk) 09:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

So awfully fine ... Kbthompson (talk) 13:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy to see the desired conclusion. Wonderful article. Finetooth (talk) 14:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. Congratulations! Tony (talk) 14:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		This is awarded in recognition of your excellent work on Noël Coward. Congratulations on achieving Featured Article status! LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 14:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Congrats from me, as well! You both did a terrific job. It's always a pleasure working with you, so don't hesitate to let me in on your next project. :) María (habla conmigo) 16:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

If I were to add all the thanks that you deserve, this page would suddenly be several yards longer. Bless you. Tim riley (talk) 19:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for showing all of us how good FAs can be. Please return to FAC. Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for J. P. Wearing

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DYK for Fifth Avenue Theatre

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Braham and Brent

Excellent additions and edits. May your shadow never grow less. Tim riley (talk) 19:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Design for Living (film)

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Gatoclass (talk) 12:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Darrell Fancourt

I've rummaged in the archives and put a lot of stuff in the article, which consequently looks a bit slablike, and would benefit from the Ssilvers touch if you have a few minutes. Tim riley (talk) 10:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Much better - bless you! Tim riley (talk) 16:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

"Boys and Girls Like You and Me" by Rodgers & Hammerstein

The song has an interesting history because it has been "almost been" in several musicals, but was cut before opening. It is also used in some stage versions of Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Cinderella", although it was not in the original 1957 TV production with Julie Andrews.

• The song was originally written for "Oklahoma!" as a duet for Curly and Laurey, but was cut during previews.
• MGM bought the song and used it in the 1944 film "Meet Me in St. Louis" as a duet between Judy Garland and Tom Drake, but the song was cut during previews, and the footage is presumed lost. (I have read that a small fragment of the missing musical number is included in the "Coming Attractions" trailer, but I have not yet verified that.) However, the song was released on the "B" side of a Decca single by Garland (the "A" side was "The Trolley Song"), which is mentioned in Misplaced Pages under Judy Garland discography.
• MGM again attempted to use it in another musical film, the title of which I can not immediately recall, but it was again cut. I can do some more research on that later.
• In Richard Rodgers' autobiography, I recall when he and Oscar Hammerstein wrote the 1957 TV version of "Cinderella", they used the music as part of the waltz music at the ball, but it was not originally used as an integrated song. I see that on Youtube, in some stage productions of "Cinderella", the King and Queen perform this song in the first palace scene.
• "Boys and Girls Like You and Me" was also included in a 1996 stage version of "State Fair". There is a reference to this in Misplaced Pages; please see the following link: .
• Frank Sinatra film Thanks! LA Movie Buff (talk) 00:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Sylvia Cecil

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Gatoclass (talk) 15:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Louise Gold

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D'OC pics

Very much obliged, your majesty. Tim riley (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Henry Watson Fowler

That will do nicely. Thank you very much! Tim riley (talk) 21:11, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Fanny Ronalds

That's a lovely new article on Fanny Ronalds. And informative: I'd always assumed (wrongly, it seems) she was in some sense a professional singer because of her association with "The Lost Chord." -- Arxiloxos (talk) 18:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Fanny Ronalds

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Shubinator (talk) 00:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Oliver Wendell Holmes

I finally got around to reviewing Pinafore -- apparently "in a few days" means "in a few weeks" in my language. :) I believe the article's in pretty good shape, so you don't have any major issues to worry about during FAC. Let me know when it gets there and I'll take another look at it. Until then, if you have the time, would you be willing to look over an article another editor and I are hoping to bring to FAC soon? It's Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr., and it's currently at PR here. It may not be within your area of expertise (no singing and dancing, lots of talking and posturing), but any opinions or suggestions at this point would be much helpful. María (habla conmigo) 17:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Suart

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Orlady (talk) 02:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Pinafore peer review

I won't be available much from the third of June to about June 21st, due to my father and uncle visiting, so if we don't nominate it fairly soon, we may be better off waiting another month so both of us can respond. I'm usually a lot more productive after such visits anyway. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 21:09, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

DYKs

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JamieS93 00:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

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JamieS93 02:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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Dravecky (talk) 14:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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Dravecky (talk) 14:21, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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Dravecky (talk) 08:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

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Dravecky (talk) 14:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Image:Dorofield Hardy - Arthur Sullivan, Mendelssohn Scholar, 1856.jpg

For the record, this would replace the second image in Arthur Sullivan, File:Young_Arthur_Sullivan.jpg. As I said, I know I need to work on Pinafore, but this is at least somewhat productive, and I felt up to it, so, better it than nothing. - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

In any case, I'm not too concerned if we use this one or not, and where, I leave that to your judgement. However, we do now have a definite date for it, which we didn't before, which is good (it would appear to be a little pre-Leipzig, not what we wrote). Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

No, the current caption appears to be accurate, since Sullivan says in the interview that he was 18 and at Leipzig when the photo was taken. Masters of Contemporary Music would seem to be wrong. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

DYKs

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Dravecky (talk) 08:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

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Dravecky (talk) 02:21, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

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Dravecky (talk) 14:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I see you homed in on what (surprise!) I think the most notable point in the article. Bless you! Tim riley (talk) 14:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

It was only possible to do because you referenced it so well. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

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Gatoclass 14:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Newman

Hearty thanks as always for your sprucing up of the article. I have also been tinkering with the article on Neville Cardus which if you have a moment, pray peruse. Tim riley (talk) 19:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Frank Cellier (actor)

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Mifter (talk) 11:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

A belated thank you

I didn't get a chance to thank you for your outstanding peer review of OWH, so please accept this as a tardy (but still heartfelt!) note of appreciation:

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For Ssilvers, who went above and beyond the typical reviewing standards to help Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. achieve FA-status before his bicentennial. Your thorough dissection and willingness to leave no stone unturned is much appreciated. As the Autocrat himself would say, "People who honestly mean to be true contradict themselves much more rarely than those who try to be 'consistent'." With many thanks, María (habla conmigo) 21:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll happily second this as well. My experience with the Holmes article has revived my faith in the collaborative spirit of this project (which, by the way, was sorely needed). People, like you, who are willing to join the team mentality make it all worthwhile. --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Command Performances

What a fantastic picture! Jack1956 (talk) 14:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yum!

Great timing! I've been feeling abandoned, alone, taken for granted, deserted, and undesserted. LilHelpa (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Ta very much (as we Scousers say)

Louis Cohen (conductor) thanks you for buffing up his article. Tim riley (talk) 15:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC) (per pro)

DYK for Pauline Rita

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Wizardman 02:35, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Hey, thank you. I'm glad there's someone on Misplaced Pages encouraging other people. I do not think I want to write articles though, maybe just be an editor. Thanks again! Tweedle20 (talk) 16:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Tweedle20

Re:Articles about singers

Thank you for the visit and helpful comments.... By the way, I've just listened to 3 savoy operas so far and am a bit surprised at knowing of the enthusiastic and well organized WP:G&S project. It looks interesting to me. You're a coordinator of the project? If so, keep up the good work. Best regards.--Caspian blue 01:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

HMS Pinafore

Congratulations on promotion of this article to FA! Well deserved. Xandar 17:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, well done. –Juliancolton |  23:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed! Is it two down, 12 to go now? --Wehwalt (talk) 23:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually 3 down, 11 to go Thespis (opera), Trial by Jury and Pinafore. But I have a new strategy: I'm planning to bring a bunch of them to GA before doing another FA. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, congrats to you, as well! I'm also giving FA a long break with the hope of creating and expanding sorely overlooked nature-related articles. Variety is good. See you around GAC. :) María (habla conmigo) 19:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Likewise, congratulations on all that work. You dropped in to my talk page and invited me to participate in the FAC since I had done the GAN. Thanks, and I did keep an eye on progress, but it seemed to have enough contributors that I just let it be. Regards. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Review for GAs

• The Sorcerer might pass GA. It could use a fair bit more detail, but what it does have is well-sourced, and reasonably broadly-covered. Needs a fair bit more work for FA, of course.
• I don't see Pirates passing without substantial work.
• Patience might pass GA, but it shouldn't. Needs a hell of a lot more.
• Iolanthe needs sources and analysis. No chance at GA.
• Princess Ida isn't bad. Might pass GA with a little work. Again, could use more sources and depth of coverage, but what it has is good, save the largely unsourced "History of productions" section.
• Mikado good, needs sourcing or trimming of the later sections.
• Ruddigore pretty strong, could probably pass GA fairly easily with a little work.
• Yeomen of the Guard has sourcing and breadth-of-coverage issues.
• Gondoliers is in about the same position as Patience: Not awful, but very, very mediocre. We could do a lot better.
• Utopia very short, I don't think it'd be a credit to our project to suggest it for GA.
• Grand Duke needs a whole lot of work.

Do my views match yours? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Not entirely. For instance, Mikado is missing lots of necessary sections, like critical reaction (i.e., reviews), analysis of text and music, and more on the genesis of the work, while Pirates has some of this. But it doesn't matter to me which one you work on first. I'll be happy to review what you do. Since SavoyNet is currently doing Grand Duke, I was hoping to more urgently add a more complete background section at least. As you know, I *strongly* object to your nominating any article for GA until we have specifically discussed its readiness. I hate nothing more than to fail a review, as the ugly mark remains on the article's talk page forever. And I also hate - OK, too strong: resent and dislike - when you throw me into a review before we have done the work that an article needs on a reasonable schedule. Then I have to scramble to save the review, often putting aside paying work. So, *please*, please, don't nominate anything until I have carefully reviewed it and given you my comments specifically with respect to whether or not I think it is ready for a nomination. I do note that you have been better about this lately. Currently, I am quite sure that none of the opera articles is ready to be nominated - they all have what you call breadth-of-coverage issues, at least, and most have serious referencing issues. BTW, the history of productions sections is basically from R&W. Do you have access to it? You will notice that Mark and I condensed the historical casting tables for Sorcerer and Trial the way you did it for Pinafore. As a preliminary matter, would you kindly do the others? -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, welcome back! I suspected that you couldn't stay away long! :p -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm just trying to get some idea of where we're at with them, not suggesting an immediate jump to GA nomination. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, you are finding great wisdom in your new decade of life!  :-) -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

To Wehwalt: Looking forward to seeing what you do on Ruddigore. I suggest that you follow Pinafore's structure in terms of what section comes after what. After all, I responded to (and solicited) fairly heavy commentary on that issue, and I think that Pinafore now gives us an outline to follow for all the G&S opera articles. This will protect us from the argument from reviewer X that a section is too high, and from Reviewer Y that the same section is too low. I had to deal with this extensively at Pinafore. In the textual analysis section, you really are going to need a discussion of Victorian melodrama with better references than what is at the current crappy article on melodrama. If you can do anything to spruce up at least the Victorian part of that article, it might make your life easier in the Ruddigore discussion, since Gilbert was both aping the style of melodrama and poking fun at it. Anyhow, I look forward to helping out. I have Stedman, Ainger, Jacobs and Allen. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Ruddigore

As the most developed of the articles, it may be worth opening a generalist peer review on it, to try and get some idea of whether there's anything we aren't aware of. What do you think? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

No, it is not ready for a peer review. Look at Pinafore and go section by section. Are all the sections there and filled out? Plus, it looks like you are forgetting the conversation that we just had above with Wehwalt. He plans to work on it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)