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Cheers! ] (]) 02:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC) Cheers! ] (]) 02:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

:That's wrong. There is no misunderstanding of ]. I have removed the information here because the cited source does not unambiguously support the information as it is presented in the article.
:The article says: "Pentagon claim he had "returned to the fight" This is not unambiguously supported by the NYT's sources or any other source. It should be removed under ], ], ]. ] (]) 04:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

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I am going to disagree with this well-intentioned edit. I personally didn't find the May report credible. But it is verifiable. And it was very widely repeated, re-reported, and mis-reported. The New York Times ombudsman did eat crow, and retract the initial story. But, as per usual, the retraction did not get nearly as much play as the original report.

I think, with the widespread re-reporting of the report, the criticism the NY Times received, and its retraction, the report itself merits coverage. I think this section should be restored, with the addition of a

Further information: May 2009 report one in seven former captives actively support terrorism

It we trim the report, because it is retracted, we short-change readers who read re-reports of the NY Times story, and turn to the wikipedia for a balanced coverage of it. Intelligent readers are entitled to know of the initial report, how widely it was repeated, and its eventual retraction, so they can reach their own conclusion.

I am afraid removing coverage of the report erodes the wikipedia's credibility.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 17:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

explanation

I reverted this excision for several reasons.

First, I believe the good faith contributor has misunderstood WP:VER. We can't be concerned when material does not seem credible to us, when that material is verifiable from authoritative WP:RS.

Second, the edit summary claims:

"You say: "Pentagon claim he had "returned to the fight" Your source for that is the NYT article. Have a look at it. It has been edited and does not verify this anymore. WP:BOP WP:GRAPEVINE"

However one of the NYTimes article said, and still says: Khan, Isa -- Sept. 17, 2004 -- Pakistan -- Suspected.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 02:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

That's wrong. There is no misunderstanding of WP:VER. I have removed the information here because the cited source does not unambiguously support the information as it is presented in the article.
The article says: "Pentagon claim he had "returned to the fight" This is not unambiguously supported by the NYT's sources or any other source. It should be removed under WP:BOP, WP:GRAPEVINE, WP:NPF. Iqinn (talk) 04:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
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