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Thanks for Section restores

Hey Deckiller
Just wanted to say thanks for restore of sections (Voyager:In The Flesh) to be specific. I'm amazed that you went to so much trouble to track down the particular article. Guess now I have to hold up my end and try to improve it ;). I've read so much of the fighting and nonsense here at Misplaced Pages, it's really nice when I see that "Guardian Angel" work that admins (and other editors too) do here. I'm just a (relatively) new editor getting his feet wet, and wanted to express my appreciation for all the "behind the scenes" work. Thanks again. Ched (talk) 18:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Notability Proposal

Hello, just wanted to let you know I re-emphasized the second proposal in the lead sentence. Not wanting to edit war over it, its just that the Notability template erroneously leads people to the proposal even though its not supposed to link to proposed guidelines, only accepted ones. Because of this many users are glancing over the basic lead and missing this. I know it seems and really is redundant but it is for the common good of the general user. As soon as it is accepted (if it is) it can be removed. Hooper (talk) 20:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Glad to see you're back. Yeah, we really need to jumpstart the Final Fantasy Project again. Sadly, I've been focusing on just about anything BUT articles within that scope, mostly articles under WikiProject Square Enix. The only thing I've managed to accomplish in the past few months is bringing Secret of Evermore to Good status. We really do need to get those FF articles back up to speed; Ryu Sinclair is probably rolling in his wiki-grave. Let me know what I can do to help. ~ Hibana 17:27, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Characters of Final Fantasy VII

Hi Deckkiller, over on the Characters of Final Fantasy VII page a user moved the article to Characters of the Final Fantasy VII series with no discussion or consensus. I moved the article back to the original title and asked him to seek consensus by speaking with other users, but he did not. He simply moved the article back to the Characters of the Final Fantasy VII series page and has now proceeded to delete large chunks of the article- now I'm not opposed to a new title for the article or trimming down the information in it- but he has failed to discuss the issues with people on the talk pages. Can you help resolve this? Gavin (talk) 22:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, he informs me that the move is fine because it is uncontroversial- and he could be right, I note the Discography of the Final Fantasy VII series is working under that title... Gavin (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Writing guide for VG articles

Hey Deckiller- I noticed that you are kinda back. Good to have you back by the way.
Anyway, I was hoping I could get your input on a draft of a writing guide the VG project collaborated on a while ago. It was created to help less experienced editors learn how to write Good and Featured quality video game articles. Please read it when you have time as it's something I'd like to see up and running sometime soon (or eventually). (Guyinblack25 17:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC))

Hey

My internet connection has been funky for a month but today is finally resolved, so perhaps we could collaborate on something to get the Final Fantasy project back up and running! :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 04:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy VIII featured topic under retention

See here, thanks - rst20xx (talk) 19:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

In the Flesh (Star Trek: Voyager)

Hi Deckiller. Hope life is treating you well. Anyway, I revisited the In the Flesh (Star Trek: Voyager) article, and did some copyedit. Hopefully for the better. Anyway, I remembered (ok - I re-read it on the talk page) that you helped me when I first started editing the article. I had questioned why a section had been blanked on the talk page, and you restored the info with description of proper procedure. I wanted to get back to you because I revisited the article now that I've had a little more editing experience, and because I removed one of the tags (in the reception section). My edit summary and talk page entries explain my reasoning. I didn't feel comfortable with removing the primary tags at top of page, and didn't know if you were interested in looking back over it. I'm not sure if you have an interest in sci-fi or if your attention was solely that of an administrator. Just sort of a "full disclosure" thing to let you know I was there. — Ched (talk) 08:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy FAR notification

I have nominated Final Fantasy for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

6 July 2006 article deletion

Hello, Deckiller.

I had written an article on the book Evil and the God of Love by John Hick. One day some time ago, I could not find it nor any record of what happened to it but found an added section in the Hick article about the book, which needed a lot of work. Recently, I found that the that section had been greatly shortened, for the worse IMO. I was going to resurrect the earlier book article, but found this note in the Edit mode for the replacment article:

11:14, 6 July 2006 Deckiller (talk | contribs) deleted "Evil and the God of Love" ‎ (copyvio/essay)

I was shocked at the reason given above for deletion. I am familiar with what constitutes plagiarism and was (and am) careful to avoid that. I assume that someone requested article deletion, alleging plagiarism. It is possible that plagiarism occurred after I stopped editing, but I don't know that any Edits occurred much less whether they were plagiarism. I would like to revive the article with as close a version of my latest edit. If that is not available, I'd use the latest version I worked on from the John Hick article section, at here at section for 22:37, 7 October 2006 . I'd appreciate your feedback. I'll look for your response here. Thank you. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 20:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, Deckille. Mine is at User talk:Thomasmeeks#re:6 July 2006 article deletion. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 18:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

A subtle Edit. Points well taken as well. I shall acknowledge your assistance. It's a work worth saving. Thank you again. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 18:15, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday, Deckiller, from the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a nice day!

Sorry about cracking it before :-)

• I'm just off a six month ban, and it's been slightly frustrating not having to be able to make changes to articles (especially 24). Didn't mean to snap before :-) Steve Crossin /₂₄ 02:31, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

• I had no idea you were an admin till I saw your userpage. Steve Crossin /₂₄ 02:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The 24 Wikiproject Barnstar
		You know why you've gotten this :-). Good work on 24 (season 7). Best, Steve Crossin /24 21:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Long time no see

Pretty good. I do a few edits here and there. :) The Wookieepedian (talk) 02:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm doing just fine. :) It's good to see you back! Everything OK on your end? Mahanga 20:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks for the offer of help. I think I've hit a decent level of work on WP:3PARTY, so feel free to make some changes. Absolute worst case, if I think the essay starts to move away from its original spirit, then I'll just edit it further. As for the user/talk page, I prefer mine messy and unmaintained. Call it an experiment. :) By the way, I appreciate the exchange we're having at WP:NOT. It's nice to have a discussion about this that doesn't erupt into accusations of bad faith, and moralistic posturing. Randomran (talk) 23:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I sympathize. The debate at WP:FICT tested my patience. I'm disappointed it didn't yield a guideline, but I did see progress, and I still have a lot of patience left. It's hard to have a discussion about how to meet everyone's interests when people are accusing you of trying to accomplish some kind of hidden goal, or people are secretly doing that themselves. It's a relief when one person can say "well, I don't want people removing entire sections worth of plot", and the other can say "well I don't want entire articles written as a scene-by-scene analysis", and they can find a way to accomplish both. Of course, there are more than two people involved in every discussion, and I've noticed that it only takes one person to stall things, let alone sew the seeds of hostility and bad faith. Anyway, thanks again for making Misplaced Pages a little more pleasant. Randomran (talk) 23:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

What's sad is I can't even tell if you're being sarcastic :) I haven't been around for long. Randomran (talk) 00:16, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I still poked my head in around then. It *was* an innocent time. But then, articles on political topics were filled with a *lot* of non-neutral stuff, or at best original research... articles read like an active debate. The solution to everything, since then, has been verifiability. That kind of ruined things for a lot of people though. I've seen a lot of former GAs that were written in a time when people didn't care too much about sourcing, but only about good prose. Verifiability has helped on contentious topics. But verifiability is annoying. It takes up more time. It's not user friendly. And, of course, now you have a lot of debates about what sources are appropriate. I'm not sure which is better, then or now. Randomran (talk) 01:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

You might have a point. A standard that makes sense in one place doesn't necessarily make sense across the board. Randomran (talk) 03:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

And all the more reason it's unfortunate that we don't have a subject specific guideline for fiction, or at least for video games. We deal with a whole other set of problems than, say, an article on Marxism or George W. Bush or affirmative action -- for better or for worse. Randomran (talk) 04:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think the appropriate level of detail is a lingering issue for us. I maintain that at plot we might not be able to agree that "we aim for 5 out of 10 in terms of detail", because too many people want more detail, and too many people want *less* detail. But I think there are enough people who would agree that "it's not less than 2 out of 10", and we can say "it's also not more than 9 out of 10". Even if we could just rule out the extremes, we'd have made a lot of progress. Randomran (talk) 04:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hi there

Yep yep, still making a constellation of FF music articles. The project's slowed some since that crazy summer when you guys made half of the game articles FAs, but we're slowly but surely putting little stars and green pluses next to everything on the list. --PresN 01:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:Interview

Awesome, thanks! This certainly eliminates the part of the process where I have to try to find someone who's willing to be interviewed, and you're more than qualified to represent WPFF. I'm currently conducting an interview with Wrad. Once that one wraps up and gets published, I'll walk you through the interview process, which will probably happen between April 13 though April 24. Does that work for you? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 19:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Alright, the interview will take place here, although there's nothing substantial there yet. I'll post questions, you post answers, piece of cake. I'd like to get this done by April 19 for the next issue, but if it takes longer, that's fine too. If you're confused/can't think of a good answer/a question conflicts with your vegan beliefs, just leave me a note here, my talk page, the interview page, the interview talk page, or a billboard outside my dorm. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 21:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow. I'm an idiot. I just looked at your original message on my page - you wanted to discuss Final Fantasy, not Video Games. I've looked at the interview list and it seems we've already done Video Games, but we haven't done FF. *headdesk* I'll clear out the current interview and start over. Sorry about that. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 21:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Shadow the Hedgehog (video game)

Can you copyedit this article or tell me what needs to be done? It's up at FAC now, but Dabomb87 told me to ask you. There's almost no chance of it passing. Tezkag72 (talk) 13:09, 9 April 2009 (UTC) Sure enough, it failed, mostly because of that. Any suggestions? Tezkag72 (talk) 21:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Coheed

Quit trying to slander Coheed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xasitchaine (talk • contribs) 22:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and Nirvana sucks!--Xasitchaine (talk) 22:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Your opinions are all fine and sweet and dandy, but not in a neutral point of view encyclopedia. Baseless accusations of slander constitute a personal attack violation. Excessive personal attacks will result in a block; as a matter of fact, one legal threat (such as an accusation of slander) often warrants an immediate block. However, as a sign of good faith, I have not reported you to a third-party admin. — Deckiller 23:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Big and bad, aren't you. Talking all like a robot and such. I wonder what you look like IRL. --Xasitchaine (talk) 21:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

24 (season 7)

Spotted this. I remember that the date did appear in the episode. However, 24:Redemption was definitely set after 2007, (More like 2013-2017 from memory). What do you think should be done here. (I think it's possible it might have just been an error of the production team.) Steve Crossin /₂₄ 04:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• Just FYI... Steve Crossin /₂₄ 05:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

RFA thanks

My RFA passed today at 61/5/4. Thanks for participating in my RFA. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the WP community has placed in me. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

RE:Admin suggestion

Well, I'd be lying if I said I'm not even a little bit interested, but I don't think it's the best path for me right now. Unfortunately, I don't really have the time to edit like I'd prefer and try to spend most of my time on improving article quality. I appreciate the offer, but don't think I could handle the extra responsibilities right now. Thanks Deckiller. (Guyinblack25 21:30, 11 April 2009 (UTC))

True, but I hardly deal with such things that it doesn't seems worth it. I feel stretched enough between writing articles and working with WP:VG. Extra tools means extra responsibilities, which I'm sure I'll feel obligated to use. (Guyinblack25 23:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC))

Pennsylvania Route 652 FAC

I solved it your comments. Can you do me a favor and list EVERY issue you have? I can't read bad grammar thus I can't copyedit very well. Usually knowing what to fix makes it easier.Mitchazenia :  Chat  Trained for the pen 20:14, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for your participation in my recent Request for adminship. I don't know if you noticed me then, but I was the one who successfully nominated Megatokyo for TFA. :) I've been involved heavily in the comics project's GA drive as well, helping to get Spider-Man, Spider-Man: One More Day, Silver Age of Comic Books, Alex Raymond, Winnie Winkle, LGBT themes in comics, Hergé, and Pride & Joy (comics) promoted. I've also been doing the same for the Dungeons & Dragons project. Hope to see you around, happy editing! :) BOZ (talk) 04:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

fall

Thx for your kind words, DK! Tony (talk) 08:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey there

Hi, I read your interview in the Signpost. I especially liked your answer to question #7 and totally agree with you.

Regarding the comment on your userpage introduction on how Misplaced Pages is like an MMORPG.. have you seen Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages is an MMORPG? Hilarious.

Have a great day. :)

-- OlEnglish 22:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Ryan Krug

Apollo 13 (film)

Hello, I noticed you made a comment about your intentions of getting this article to FA one day. I currently have it on GA review right now and was wondering if you would like to look it over for any other changes it may need to pass. Thanks. DrNegative (talk) 13:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

VG articles

Hey Deckiller. Just read your informative Signpost interview. I think one of the main challenges for writers of video game articles is the source material itself. I can't tell you how many times I've been reviewing VG FACs, reading over the source material to double check for accuracy, and wanting to stab my eyes out. Video game "journalism" is so shoddy, and I have a feeling that the level of writing there often informs the writing at the Misplaced Pages articles (whose authors demographically tend be younger, less experienced writers anyhow). One of my favorite reviews (just chock-full of examples of what not to do when writing) is here: http://pc.ign.com/articles/551/551118p1.html. Some choice phrases:

• The lead! "Full Spectrum Warrior is a really good game. It's presented well, fun, looks good, sounds good, and has a good premise." Wow!
• "Not only are the visuals of the actual game very nice, but the way the experience is presented is also well worthy of note."
• "If you're on one side of a car and you'd like your guys to go on the other side of the car, it's pretty difficult to do that thanks because of the limitation of only being able to move to a place directly in the group you're trying to move's line of sight." Mrh?
• "Still, the feel that you get while running your troops around can be an intense one." Intense feel!

And this is supposedly supposed to be one of the leading video game review sites out there? </ rant> Anyhow, this seems like a particularly difficult challenge. If your source material is horribly written, it inevitably seeps into your subconscious as you construct your own article. BuddingJournalist 08:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Mediation at WP:FICT

I'm suggesting we ask for mediation to help build teh guidance at Misplaced Pages:Notability (fiction). What I propose is that a mediator be the only person to edit the project page itself and be the one to guide discussion and discern consensus. I've proposed it at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Mediation. As a past participant in the lengthy debates, I'd appreciate your input and hopefully your agreement. Hiding T 10:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

RfD nomination of List of terms in Xenosaga

I have nominated List of terms in Xenosaga (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 18:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy first edit day!

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Proposed deletion of Way Disciple Program

The article Way Disciple Program has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Way Disciple Program – news, books, scholar Consequently, this article is about a subject that appears to lack sufficient notability.

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2012 Election Need Your Feedback

I noticed you were a regular editor on the 2008 election page. Myself and other editors are odds on some edits we are trying to make to the page. Since you have already been involved in probably similar discussion, we would greatly appreciate hearing your feedback on the 2012 election discussion page under the Republicans and Ruled Out discussions http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Republicans.3F

David1982m (talk • contribs) 20:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC).

GA Reassessment of Clone Wars (Star Wars)

I have done a GA Reassessment of the Clone Wars (Star Wars) article as part of the GA Sweeps project. I do not believe that the article meets the current GA Criteria. As such I have put the article on hold for a week and I am notifying you as a primary editor of this article. I am open to discussion so please contact me on my talk page if you have questions. If a week is not enough time please advise me. Thanks. H1nkles (talk) 18:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)