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Since seldom visit tghis page. Please discuss directly on article page.I will eventually see this page of coarse but don't count on it. Thanks --Rm125 (talk) 04:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

RfC

By adding the tag you are listing the article twice at the same RfC page. It is already listed so please stop adding the second tag. nableezy - 04:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

This is about different issue. As discussed on the page--Rm125 (talk) 04:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

That is your 3rd revert on Haaretz. Please stop trying to push in the material through editwarring. You will be blocked if you continue. nableezy - 16:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what you are talking about. Please go to the article discussion page. I already asked you guys once. This page is for social activities only.Please tell Malik and other.If you have a problem please let me know. I might make a special arrangement.http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Rm125#Please_don.27t_leave_messages_here--Rm125 (talk) 07:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thats nice, but that is not what this page is for. And please read WP:CANVASS and do not do it anymore (like this). nableezy - 18:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Nab: Please stop. You haven't stopped bullying this newbie from his very edit. He mentioned it to me, and only me, so its not WP:CANVASS, which by its very definition requires the notification to multiple Wikipedians. Try WP:BULLY, for wikilinked guidelines.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 18:40, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Brew, please stop encouraging a user who has done nothing but edit war in problematic, to say the least, material, some of which was in violation of WP:BLP (which you joined the editor in trying to editwar into an article). You want to be helpful then give the newbie some actual advice on how to edit responsibly, but just justifying the behavior is not right. nableezy - 18:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

That's two blatant lies, Nableezy. Please strike them both. This comment discouraged edit-warring, not encouraged. And none of my 40,000 WP edits included an edit to the Haaretz article, making an edit-warring accusation silly. Please stop with these blatantly false attacks.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 18:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I was talking about trying to war in BLP-violating material on Jonathan Cook (note that every single person at both BLP/N and the talk page agreed the material was inappropriate). Neither of those are lies, so I will not be striking either of them out. You see a potential ally to help defame those whose views you do not like, so here, as with Historicist, you try to downplay the clearly problematic behavior. You want to be helpful? Explain to Rm125 what is wrong with violating WP:BLP (something I hope you have learned by now), or how to try and write in a neutral tone. That would be helpful. nableezy - 18:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Ugh. You spend way too much time here fighting. You can waste time here, but find another sucker for your nonsense. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 20:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

And you spend way too much time playing the lawyer protecting those whose behavior is repeatedly an issue. I have been meaning to ask you brew, how long ago did you know Tundrabuggy was a banned editor? Were you shocked that somebody who you backed up for so long turned out to be a sockpuppet of a banned user? Or were you just disappointed an ally was finally caught? nableezy - 20:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Dear Nableezy and Brewcrewer, I'm sure you'll both agree this doesn't belong on Rm125's talkpage. If he asks you to continue, then please ignore this post, but otherwise I suggest we leave this discussion.Jeppiz (talk) 20:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Last warning

Despite your block and the warnings you received over your behaviour, you have went right back to edit-warring at Haaretz and to removing sourced content without discussing it at Aftonbladet-Israel controversy. Your behaviour is just as disruptive as it was before the block and you will be heading for a new one if you don't change your behaviour immediately.Jeppiz (talk) 20:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Jeppiz,please slow down.I understand that you are upset. Frankly don't understand why. Whould you tell me?Show me what and where is the sourse you clain I removed. Once I see what do you mean I will be happy to respond.I like to be disciplined but please what you are punishing me for. Another favor. I already asked to discuss everything on article discussion board. I don't come here often so please let's go to appropriate article. Another advice, Jappiz. Please try to discuss in calm, culculated way-it is better for everybody. After all we all people and nobody enjoy this language of warnings and pushing around.Doesn't work for me. I am a reasonable person and respond to reasonable arguments. If you can try to cool down and relax you will see how nice and effortless our work here can be. I can assure you I do my editing with care and consideration. Talk to the point and I will respond. Promise. --Rm125 (talk) 06:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Non-templated welcome

Hey RM125, Noticed your work around here and I'm impressed. It is both intelligent and mostly in accordance with NPOV. You have the markings of a good Wikipedian. One thing I'd like encourage is that you hold back from reverting more then once a day, especially now that you're a new editor. There are plenty of articles that are not well written and include bad information, but we can't get all hung up at every misjustice. Patience is a virtue that will get you a long way here. If you have any specific questions, please don't hesitate to ping my talkpage. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for advice.Will be in touch. There is some shortage of civility and good manners here.Some are sad-no sence of humor. Some just like to warn people any chance they get.Normal situation in strict totalitarian homes. It is really scary.I have this nightmare since I started here; Every time I pass a Hollywood sign I see WARNING! instead of HOLLYWOOD. LOL.In any case I better be carefull not to talk too much. Misplaced Pages KGB is watching every step.. --Rm125 (talk) 06:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Just chill like they do best in LA :) Btw, you don't have to put your signature in your edit summaries. As a matter of fact, the signature doesn't "show" in edit summaries. Best,--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again, wiki-pal --Rm125 (talk) 06:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Having been critical of some of your moves, I would like to point out that your recent edits to the Aftonbladet-Israel controversy have been very good and helpful, thank you for that.Jeppiz (talk) 20:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

You are all right. Looking forward to cooperate.Thanks, --Rm125 (talk) 05:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

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edit warring

Hello Rm125, you are continuing to edit war at Aftonbladet-Israel controversy. You just made your 4th revert. Please do not continue doing so or you may be blocked. Thanks, nableezy - 23:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

You are also edit warring at Al-Ahram. I am preparing a case to have you banned from editing articles in the Arab-Israeli conflict area if you persist with this behavior. nableezy - 00:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

you have been reported to the 3rr noticeboard, you can see this here. nableezy - 05:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a short time in accordance with Misplaced Pages's blocking policy for your disruption caused by edit warring and violation of the three-revert rule. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Template:Z10 The duration of the block is 24 hours. Here are the reverts in question. William M. Connolley (talk) 08:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about what happened. I tried to stave off the block, but to no avail. There's a very strong possibility that in the near future other admins will be patrolling that talkpage and they would treat everyone fairly, but this is what we have to deal with at this time. In any case, you were edit-warring. I hope you come back in 24 hours all chilled and with a better grasp of Misplaced Pages's aversion to reverting. You would make a good editor. Please take lesson from what happened and focus more on communication at the talk page. I hope to see you again soon. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 08:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=This is the first time I see this board.( I just tried to post it but I was blocked at the same time) I never knew that such thing exists. The only reason I found out is because Nablezy provided a link. I am a new editor however I am getting abuses since day one. I don't know if I can say it on this board but I will say what I feel. Whatever the rules are this is no way to greet a newcomer. There must be some kind of ethics here. since day one-without knowing and understanding what I am doing and acting sincerely I was approached by devastating and cruel attitude. Not only Malik Shabbazz never greeted me as a new Wikipedian and offered some minimal welcome they greeted me like in a war zone. I admit I am new here and not very computer literate I am also not a native English speaker, English is my third language, however this is not the reason I mention this. There MUST be some kind of system how the senior editors treat new comers. This is incredible that any organization abuses the new person whose only desire to be helpful and make a contribution. I ask you: What kind of committee is responsible for greeting new people here? Whose responsibility it is to make sure there is some kind of volunteering "mentor" for the newbie. I ask you: Who is responsible in this organization to make sure that a new person feels nurtured and encouraged to contribute?Or you just looking for abusers and bullies whose only advantage is because they know their way around? I ask you: Who is responsible for a desperate calls for help from new Wikipedians who don't know how the system works?Are the experienced editors who see and don't help) like Malik Shabbazz an Nablesee can get away with this? When you have an car exident and people who have opportunity to help are obligated to help. This is MORAL obligation. Why it is not practiced on Misplaced Pages? Who is responsible for improvement of this kind? Or may be just technicalities you are after ? I ask you; Why those 2 serious moral abusers ( yes abusers) Malik Shabbazz and Nableezy knew that I need help ( look at Haaretz discussion board) and laughed among themselves writing down my mistakes and at the same time trying to "bury" me and deceive me. Yesterday I was awake ALL NIGHT because of their abuses and threats. Many times they reverted me for false reason. I can show you that the link the provided is totally irrelevant and nobody checked it. Now I have a DETAILED information about recent Al Aharam edit. I can show that it is complete fraud what he did. I would like your permit to to email you this and I am sure Nableezy will be and banned, mot me Technically I am probably at fault, I admit ( frankly I don’t know exactly why but I assume there is a reason}” but morally it is absolutely deplorable. I have many questions to ask somebody responsible. Yesterday they threatened me they will ban me for ever without providing the reason. I even posted on Haaretz discussion board and I wrote it down. Please look and you will read my thoughts. You can ban me( not you personally but in general) or whatever but you will never get respect from me because of the abuse I experienced here. Shame on those who treat people in this manner. I will leave my email here. I would like to speak with someone with experience and authority here. I would like to have a 'mentor'-somebody who can help me to get started properly . I would like somebody to contact me so I can show how ( without me agreeing) they have led me into a trap so I would be banned and more. Sorry I talk too much but I talk from the heart. I needed to tell you what is going on. I respectfully ask for somebody knowledgeable to contact me otherwise I would like to try to contact the founder or other big cigar in this organization. My email is r2000la@gmail.com Please email me and give me an advice of how to try to answer all those questions I asked you here.. Thanks for your time.--] (]) 09:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)  |3 = ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=This is the first time I see this board.( I just tried to post it but I was blocked at the same time) I never knew that such thing exists. The only reason I found out is because Nablezy provided a link. I am a new editor however I am getting abuses since day one. I don't know if I can say it on this board but I will say what I feel. Whatever the rules are this is no way to greet a newcomer. There must be some kind of ethics here. since day one-without knowing and understanding what I am doing and acting sincerely I was approached by devastating and cruel attitude. Not only Malik Shabbazz never greeted me as a new Wikipedian and offered some minimal welcome they greeted me like in a war zone. I admit I am new here and not very computer literate I am also not a native English speaker, English is my third language, however this is not the reason I mention this. There MUST be some kind of system how the senior editors treat new comers. This is incredible that any organization abuses the new person whose only desire to be helpful and make a contribution. I ask you: What kind of committee is responsible for greeting new people here? Whose responsibility it is to make sure there is some kind of volunteering "mentor" for the newbie. I ask you: Who is responsible in this organization to make sure that a new person feels nurtured and encouraged to contribute?Or you just looking for abusers and bullies whose only advantage is because they know their way around? I ask you: Who is responsible for a desperate calls for help from new Wikipedians who don't know how the system works?Are the experienced editors who see and don't help) like Malik Shabbazz an Nablesee can get away with this? When you have an car exident and people who have opportunity to help are obligated to help. This is MORAL obligation. Why it is not practiced on Misplaced Pages? Who is responsible for improvement of this kind? Or may be just technicalities you are after ? I ask you; Why those 2 serious moral abusers ( yes abusers) Malik Shabbazz and Nableezy knew that I need help ( look at Haaretz discussion board) and laughed among themselves writing down my mistakes and at the same time trying to "bury" me and deceive me. Yesterday I was awake ALL NIGHT because of their abuses and threats. Many times they reverted me for false reason. I can show you that the link the provided is totally irrelevant and nobody checked it. Now I have a DETAILED information about recent Al Aharam edit. I can show that it is complete fraud what he did. I would like your permit to to email you this and I am sure Nableezy will be and banned, mot me Technically I am probably at fault, I admit ( frankly I don’t know exactly why but I assume there is a reason}” but morally it is absolutely deplorable. I have many questions to ask somebody responsible. Yesterday they threatened me they will ban me for ever without providing the reason. I even posted on Haaretz discussion board and I wrote it down. Please look and you will read my thoughts. You can ban me( not you personally but in general) or whatever but you will never get respect from me because of the abuse I experienced here. Shame on those who treat people in this manner. I will leave my email here. I would like to speak with someone with experience and authority here. I would like to have a 'mentor'-somebody who can help me to get started properly . I would like somebody to contact me so I can show how ( without me agreeing) they have led me into a trap so I would be banned and more. Sorry I talk too much but I talk from the heart. I needed to tell you what is going on. I respectfully ask for somebody knowledgeable to contact me otherwise I would like to try to contact the founder or other big cigar in this organization. My email is r2000la@gmail.com Please email me and give me an advice of how to try to answer all those questions I asked you here.. Thanks for your time.--] (]) 09:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)  |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

There MUST be some kind of system how the senior editors treat new comers - yes indeed there is; well less a system that a collection of guidelines and habits. For example, if a newcomer turns up and starts edit warring they might get a message such as Hello Rm125, you are continuing to edit war at Aftonbladet-Israel controversy. You just made your 4th revert. Please do not continue doing so or you may be blocked. If the newcomer then simply ignores the message and continues reverting, the inevitable happens William M. Connolley (talk) 09:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, and can I also point you to WP:CIVIL? Your comments above about other editors guarantee that you won't be unblocked. Remember, whilst you obviously do possess the WP:TRUTH and everyone who disagrees with you is necessarily morally bankrupt, you aren't allowed to say so William M. Connolley (talk) 09:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

You are talking about my comments but have you checked theirs? I was told that I lamed hin that he is an anti Semite, I am clueless. I am decieving,I don't know English,and many more things. Asked me to leave Misplaced Pages and go to another language and many more. I got more but I didn't know of special board that you guys monitor foregners like me. It didn't take you long to check it up did it? Have you checked his reversions without any reason and reversions that while perfectly justified reverted for the FROUD reason ?Again and again. I have records. Do you care to look at or you already formed your mind? I know you are busy but if you warn a person WITH FALSE justification may be there is something to look at.I have records and I want an opportunity to show that some or majoruty of complains of his are false. Is there something you call a review or second opinion or some kind of dialog? As you know if police arrests you for the wrong reason you go home. Is there any chance for me or the judge ruled and it is final? I have a prepaired case for you to review. I am talking about facts and unjustified reverts. Everything is documented to you care to look?--Rm125 (talk) 10:05, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

William, I would like to email you some information about the above matter. I would like to email you directly instead of postiing here since it is very sensitive and confidential. I don't want it to be a common knowledge. let me know if it is possible. If not provide me with another avenue to act. As I say this information is important and needs to be addressed by somebody senior ( I assume you are but I am not sure) please educate me on procedure, Thanks--Rm125 (talk) 10:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Now I start to recall how he set me up

--Rm125 (talk) 09:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

If you want people to show you any respect at all it would be wise not to call them bastards. nableezy - 09:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Please don't repeat your personal attacks here. If you repeatedly use this page to attack other uses, I will lock it William M. Connolley (talk) 10:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

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