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:I accidentaly came to here but I have really to coment the previous comment. In first, the religion and ethnicity are, in Bosnian case, completely together, even more in that period. The religious beleve and habits are the main characters of the ethnicities, and also the primary difference between them. So, it is the same. You can count with fingers (in a few millions population) Croats that are not Catholic, Serbs that are not Orthodox, and Muslims, pardon Bosniaks (I did it on purpose for this argument...) that are not Muslim. So, maybe in some other cases you couldn´t, but in this one you CAN perfectly use the religious separations as ethnic. Bosnia in this period: RELIGION = ETHNICITY need numbers |
:I accidentaly came to here but I have really to coment the previous comment. In first, the religion and ethnicity are, in Bosnian case, completely together, even more in that period. The religious beleve and habits are the main characters of the ethnicities, and also the primary difference between them. So, it is the same. You can count with fingers (in a few millions population) Croats that are not Catholic, Serbs that are not Orthodox, and Muslims, pardon Bosniaks (I did it on purpose for this argument...) that are not Muslim. So, maybe in some other cases you couldn´t, but in this one you CAN perfectly use the religious separations as ethnic. Bosnia in this period: RELIGION = ETHNICITY need numbers? 99,9999999%! | ||
:And what was the third issue? Oh yes, other groups. Other groups? Vlachs? Are you joking with me? There are some thousands of Bosnians in United Kingdom, do you see the Bosnian "colour" in the British ethic map? | :And what was the third issue? Oh yes, other groups. Other groups? Vlachs? Are you joking with me? There are some thousands of Bosnians in United Kingdom, do you see the Bosnian "colour" in the British ethic map? | ||
:The map is wrong, but for other reasons that I don´t want to comment. | |||
Don´t take it personal... Regards ] (]) 22:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC) | :Don´t take it personal... Regards ] (]) 22:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Map ambiguity
I'm concerned that on http://en.wikipedia.org/File:BosniaHerzegovina.gif the map is described as "Religious map", but on this article it's labelled "Ethnic map". Religious groups and ethnic groups in Bosnia are NOT the same (notwithstanding a great deal of overlap), and confusion between the two concepts (or deliberate distortion) has played a part in some very nasty periods of Bosnian history. So, what is this a map of? Reported ethnic identity in any particular area? Religious majority in any particular area? Or something else?
Also, is this a measure of population or of land-ownership? The 1910 census recorded both, but since it reckoned that the vast majority of land was muslim-owned and the map is not dominated by a single colour, I can only assume the map is population-based.
In any case these 3 are not the only groups in Bosnia at the time; only the majority. The census reported on the presence of some other groups; for instance a number of "Romanian speaking" (ie. Vlach) settlements.
Thoughts?
- I accidentaly came to here but I have really to coment the previous comment. In first, the religion and ethnicity are, in Bosnian case, completely together, even more in that period. The religious beleve and habits are the main characters of the ethnicities, and also the primary difference between them. So, it is the same. You can count with fingers (in a few millions population) Croats that are not Catholic, Serbs that are not Orthodox, and Muslims, pardon Bosniaks (I did it on purpose for this argument...) that are not Muslim. So, maybe in some other cases you couldn´t, but in this one you CAN perfectly use the religious separations as ethnic. Bosnia in this period: RELIGION = ETHNICITY need numbers? 99,9999999%!
- And what was the third issue? Oh yes, other groups. Other groups? Vlachs? Are you joking with me? There are some thousands of Bosnians in United Kingdom, do you see the Bosnian "colour" in the British ethic map?
- The map is wrong, but for other reasons that I don´t want to comment.
- Don´t take it personal... Regards FkpCascais (talk) 22:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)