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Re the IP block, the user in question is suspected of being a particular troll who under an arbcom ruling is automatically blocked indefinitely for posting such comments. (They have been blocked indefinitely at a variety of IPs and usernics already.) As to their comments, they have left themselves open to criminal prosecution. If any one of the millions of users visiting WP sees that edit in the edit history of the article in question they could report it to the police. Indeed in many jurisdictions where mandatory reporting exists, the mere suspicion that someone may be a child abuser due to their comments would produce a legal requirement that someone finding that comment would ''have'' to report it to the police and the police would ''have'' to investigate it. The identity of the user making the claim would then be traced (as can be done relatively easily in most cases) and then the complaint passed on from whichever jurisdiction the report was made in by police forces to the local force of the person who made the comment. There is as a result a strong possibility that at best the person who made that claim in the edit summary could have a visit from the police. There is a possibility that a criminal investigation may be opened against them. Even if there is no evidence that their claim is true, posting it would be an instantly sackable offence in most jobs if a work computer was used, and would earn instant expulsion if posted from a school computer. It is quite a serious matter, far more so than was actually conveyed by the message. (A lawyer friend to whom I described the edit earlier reckoned that it if reported to the police the comment, even if as is likely to be the case merely a joke, could get the poster into ''massive'' legal hotwater. Given the nature of the comment an indefinite ban was the only option, not least to protect WP both from possible media attack and from any of the legal complexities that could arise from such a claim. As mentioned, comments implying criminal behaviour by the poster or anyone else in an edit summary have generated an automatic instant indefinitive ban.) ]]\<sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 00:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC) | Re the IP block, the user in question is suspected of being a particular troll who under an arbcom ruling is automatically blocked indefinitely for posting such comments. (They have been blocked indefinitely at a variety of IPs and usernics already.) As to their comments, they have left themselves open to criminal prosecution. If any one of the millions of users visiting WP sees that edit in the edit history of the article in question they could report it to the police. Indeed in many jurisdictions where mandatory reporting exists, the mere suspicion that someone may be a child abuser due to their comments would produce a legal requirement that someone finding that comment would ''have'' to report it to the police and the police would ''have'' to investigate it. The identity of the user making the claim would then be traced (as can be done relatively easily in most cases) and then the complaint passed on from whichever jurisdiction the report was made in by police forces to the local force of the person who made the comment. There is as a result a strong possibility that at best the person who made that claim in the edit summary could have a visit from the police. There is a possibility that a criminal investigation may be opened against them. Even if there is no evidence that their claim is true, posting it would be an instantly sackable offence in most jobs if a work computer was used, and would earn instant expulsion if posted from a school computer. It is quite a serious matter, far more so than was actually conveyed by the message. (A lawyer friend to whom I described the edit earlier reckoned that it if reported to the police the comment, even if as is likely to be the case merely a joke, could get the poster into ''massive'' legal hotwater. Given the nature of the comment an indefinite ban was the only option, not least to protect WP both from possible media attack and from any of the legal complexities that could arise from such a claim. As mentioned, comments implying criminal behaviour by the poster or anyone else in an edit summary have generated an automatic instant indefinitive ban.) ]]\<sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 00:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC) | ||
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Revision as of 22:08, 29 December 2005
- First archive at User talk:Pakaran/Archive1 created 10 December 2003.
- Second archive at User talk:Pakaran/Archive2 created 21 December 2004.
Reply October 31st
Maybe not yet, but one day, she will :)
Balanced Ternary money system
(From Talk:Ternary)
There seems to be some confusion on the Ternary page.
Here is my understanding of a balanced ternary monetary system. In balanced ternary, you have digits that represent postive number, and digits that represent negative numbers. For example, 5 is represented "+--": 9 - 3 - 1. To represent five dollars in a balanced ternary system, one would have a nine dollar bill, a negative three dollar bill, and a negative one dollar bill. It's not balanced ternary unless we have some way of representing negative amounts. Well, if I had five dollars from having a positive nine dollar bill, and two negative bills, well I would just throw out the two negative bills and have nine dollars!
So, yes, either I'm hopelessly confused about this, or we will need to keep the above sentence in the article. Please clarify if I am mistaken somehow. Samboy 14:09, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I saw you rv'd my mod to the Randi article and then rv'd your rv. Just to let you know I am not Ennis. For a while Ennis sowed a bit of FUD about me being a troll and it caused a momentary confusion on the matter. I hope my record speaks for itself, but if you have doubts about anything I write, please feel free to msg me. --Cchunder 18:27, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
amfetamine
I went ahead and moved Amfetamine back to Amphetamine since that's the common spelling here in the US and gets far more Google hits. No offense. Pakaran (ark a pan) 05:03, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Well thank you for letting me know. Wikiproject_Drugs has a policy on the naming of drug pages and "common spelling here in the US" is not part of the policy. I posted on the amphetamine talk page that I was going to move the page, with a pointer to the project page, so that anyone who disagreed could raise any objections. The International Nonproprietary Name is amfetamine. I will move the page back there and I'd appreciate it if you'd leave it there. Matt 05:14, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Libertas
Thanks for dealing with this. I'm holding off on doing anything further to see if s/he continues this kind of behavior after being unblocked. I've already been through the whole RFC/ArbCom thing with Chuck and Reithy (Libertas might be a sockpuppet of the latter), and would prefer to forgo the hassle and aggravation if at all possible. RadicalSubversiv E 06:05, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
OS
I'm on a iMac (Mac OS X (10.3.7)). Since it's more-or-less Unix-based, I'm surprised if it's too different from Linux...but I suppose it may be more natively Unicode-friendly, which may be the reason I had some success. - Nunh-huh 22:16, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Blocking
Recently, you blocked me for a period in excess of 24 hours, for breaching the three revert rule. I concede that it appears that I did breach this rule.
You asserted that I had been warned about breaching the rule and that I ignored the warning. You further asserted that I was a long-time user. Neither of these assertions is true.
Given the political orientation you profess on your user page, I am concerned that you did not exercise your authority correctly.
I would like to inquire as to the following:
- How did you become aware of the breach of the rule?
- Have you ever blocked someone before without warning them?
- What interaction do you have with those editing the Soviet Union or Russian articles?
- Why did you block me for a period in excess of 24 hours?
Please respond promptly.
Warning
I was certainly not warned until after the changes were made. Check the timing. Once warned, I made no further changes. While no excuse, I was not aware of the rule and was certainly not told about it until it was too late. It is my responsibility to read the rules, of course.
However, I am told on IRC under the Blocking policy it is customary to warn "vandals" twice.
No one even suggested I was vandalizing anything. Far from it, I was making an entirely sensible change to an article, which some on your side of politics seemed not to like.
Again, I ask you whether you have ever blocked someone without warning them? Presumably the process of warning involves 1) warning 2) an opportunity to comply with the rule or persist in breaching it and 3) penalty. You exercised your authority quite wrongly in that context.
I also ask whether you review your 24 hour blocks or whether you rely on them to automatically expire when the system for that seems not to work. I sent you an email about this and received no reply. This excessive penalty compounds your original error.
172 is in breach of the orders of the ArbCom, please let me know if you wish to know more and would consider blocking him. Libertas
Call for AMA election
AMA Member Advocate,
There's a poll currently in the AMA Homepage about making a new AMA Coordinator election. Please, cast your vote there (though it's not mandatory). Any comments you have about this, write it on the AMA Homepage talk page. Cheers, --Neigel von Teighen 18:43, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Greetings
Greetings; stumbled upon your user page after running across some talk page comments. Wanted to point out a typo, since I don't know how you feel about others editing your user page: "singularitarian" rather than "singulatarian". (I'm a extropian with leanings that way myself.) Also, it gives me an excuse to say I admire your work. Mindspillage (spill your mind?) 18:20, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Greetings!
Did you take a look at this page?
Another greetings!
Are you going to expand the article Free Kingdom of Misplaced Pages or any other articles in this page?
Hello?
Any comments?
More greetings!
I made this page.
Inspiration
Glad to have inspired you. Ironically and otherwise. Fully support your opposition to Perpetual motion. - XED.talk
EFF machine cost
Hi! Wasn't the cost of the EFF's DES-cracking machine a little less than US$250,000 ? — Matt Crypto
- See http://cryptome.org/cracking-des.htm and search for "project was budgeted". It was $210,000, which is closer to 200K (but, of course, "under 250K"). I'm not going to start an argument over it, though. Pakaran 17:10, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Sure, thanks for the link. — Matt Crypto 17:55, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
On a tangent, I notice that SHA family lists the alleged SHA-1 break, which has yet to be published or receive formal review (Schneier notes in his blog only that the paper "looks good" and has reputable authors). Do you think we should make it more obvious that this is an unconfirmed result? Also, what algorithms have little in common with the SHA family and aren't already broken, in the event that this is an issue? Scneier says that SHA-1 is now broken as a hash function for signatures, but breaking signatures involves finding a collision with one of the few possible hashes that have been signed, not finding a collision on any hash - am I missing something here? Pakaran 17:39, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- To clarify, I'm asking at least somewhat out of personal curiousity, I'm considering studying crypto in grad school. Pakaran 17:40, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I think you're right: it would be good working practice to make clear that the result is only "hearsay" at this point, and hasn't even been made public yet. (I think Adi Shamir also mentioned the break, and this team is reputable, so it's unlikely Schneier's wrong). I've heard people suggest Whirlpool (hash) as a replacement algorithm that doesn't use the MD-x/SHA-y/RIPEMD-z structure. There is a reasonable concern that you can use collisions in nasty ways with digital signatures: if you create a collision X and Y, H(X)=H(Y), and convince someone to sign X, then you've forged a signature for Y as well. Of course, in practice X and Y would have to take on a certain form for this to be of any practical benefit to an attacker — but that would very much depend on the specifics of the collison-finding method. (And the attack that you can do with the brute-force method that's listed on Birthday attack might not be possible.) Re: grad school — cool! Where and what are you thinking of studying? — Matt Crypto 17:55, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I'd be studying at the Rochester Institute of Technology for an MS in computer science. I'll probably go elsewhere for my Ph.D. for financial reasons, they have very few assistantship options at RIT. As regards the first remark... the problem is first of all storing the hashes you're saving to match on this. And yeah, birthday attack assumes that you can find collisions equally well on anything. If you have to come up with large numbers of message variations to find one that hashes to something your collision-finding method works on, you've got a problem right off the bat. Pakaran 18:01, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah; my hunch is that we're a long way off from having any interesting practical attacks made possible by the recent hash function breaks. But, of course, migrating to better primitives is still very prudent — better to be conservative about security. Re: RIT -- would it be research or taught-course? Myself, I'm part way through a PhD (in cryptography) at the University of York, but it's going a lot slower than I'd hoped. My only advice would be, before starting a PhD, to make sure you've genuinely interested in the topic. If my area wasn't crypto (about which I'm a little obsessive...) I'm sure I would have given up by now! — Matt Crypto 19:12, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I'd be studying at the Rochester Institute of Technology for an MS in computer science. I'll probably go elsewhere for my Ph.D. for financial reasons, they have very few assistantship options at RIT. As regards the first remark... the problem is first of all storing the hashes you're saving to match on this. And yeah, birthday attack assumes that you can find collisions equally well on anything. If you have to come up with large numbers of message variations to find one that hashes to something your collision-finding method works on, you've got a problem right off the bat. Pakaran 18:01, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I think you're right: it would be good working practice to make clear that the result is only "hearsay" at this point, and hasn't even been made public yet. (I think Adi Shamir also mentioned the break, and this team is reputable, so it's unlikely Schneier's wrong). I've heard people suggest Whirlpool (hash) as a replacement algorithm that doesn't use the MD-x/SHA-y/RIPEMD-z structure. There is a reasonable concern that you can use collisions in nasty ways with digital signatures: if you create a collision X and Y, H(X)=H(Y), and convince someone to sign X, then you've forged a signature for Y as well. Of course, in practice X and Y would have to take on a certain form for this to be of any practical benefit to an attacker — but that would very much depend on the specifics of the collison-finding method. (And the attack that you can do with the brute-force method that's listed on Birthday attack might not be possible.) Re: grad school — cool! Where and what are you thinking of studying? — Matt Crypto 17:55, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Silesia
Nice work. Not just because I come from there ^^ (Lower Silesia, to be exact) but I do agree it's a wikiphenomenon worth of seeing... Greets! 194.145.96.66 18:52, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Spanish Translation of the Week
I would like to revive this project. I noticed that you've added yourself to the list of available Spanish-to-English translators. Are you interested in working on Spanish Translation of the Week? — J3ff 06:05, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
User:Pakaran/Kingdom of Misplaced Pages
Perhaps you may want to add a WikipProject Countries infobox for your page to add some realism. It was great reading, really. =D
- Mailer Diablo 09:54, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Yet more greetings!
Have I improved this page?
- Looks even better now. ;) - Mailer Diablo 11:29, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Translations
- Did you know that in Korean The Free Kingdom of Misplaced Pages is 위키피디아자유왕국 or 위키백과자유왕국? 68.23.105.21 22:32, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Note: 위키피디아 is the transliteration of Misplaced Pages, but the translation is 위키백과.
- Can anyone check if 维基百科自由王国 means The Free Kingdom of Misplaced Pages in Chinese?
- It's a, well, transliteration, though I don't see how it can be better done. 自由王国 is literally correct, but the "kingdom" takes on a children's storybook connotation of "kingdom" when read. Maybe 维基百科自由国 would be a bit better (literally, "Free Kingdom" -> "Free Nation"). Znode 05:38, 2005 Mar 8 (UTC)
- I think El Reino Libre de Misplaced Pages is the Spanish form of it.
- Also, Le Royaume Libre de Wikipédia would be the French form.
- Is Das Freie Königreich von Misplaced Pages the correct German form?
Even more greetings!
Hi. (That's all.)
Medical prescription
For the mixup between microgram and milligram, I couldn't find a reference for "unbelievably, deaths have resulted from pharmacists blindly following such a misreading". If you have a reference, I would love to put such a dramatic statement back in. Samw 02:15, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Dividend tax
You probably hear about dilution most often with mergers where stock is swapped rather than new stock issues, of course with new stock issues control is always being diluted unless it is existing stockholder that purchase the stock. There is often a price drop in mergers, because generally a premium is being paid over what was the market price of the company being acquired. However, the executives and those stock holders that retain their shares generally agree that the stock is worth more because of some synergies or cost savings that will result because of the merger. Dilution is sometimes viewed by the market as an issue, however, I don't this necessarily being a topic for the Dividend tax article. Best wishes. --Silverback 18:36, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Holiday greetings!
Hi.
Bye.
Tolls are inefficient?
I saw your change on the Tax article, and thought you might want to reconsider. As a libertarian, I'm sure you've heard of the Cato Institute. One of their recent policy analysis had to do with the Federal Gasoline Tax. They concluded that a toll was a far better solution than the current system for paying for highways. If you're interested, you might want to check out the paper. --Fredrik Coulter 01:35, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
AMA Meeting Proposal
Hi! I put together a proposal for another AMA meeting that I'm hopeful you can chime in on. --Wgfinley 20:06, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Micronation Status?
Would it be appropriate to add this to the Micronations category? Dave C. 21:51, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Er, no :) Dan100 20:21, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks, I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. Many of the Micronations are as tongue-in-cheek and more imaginary than the "Kingdom" of Misplaced Pages. :) -- Dave C. 21:32, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Nazarene Karaites
Can you look over what I just did (revert at Karaite Judaism) and read my rationale at Talk:Karaite Judaism and lemme know whether or not you think my action was justified? Tomer 21:12, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
re: 'the finger'
It is claimed by some that many might believe that certain people's edits are not entirely within some people's notions of a certain notion of Misplaced Pages policy!!
Certain people might say to some that certain others are believed by experts to perhaps say that it is possibly believed that such edits are not unanimously endorsed by many!
It is possible that certain some might by many perhaps some be possibly...urk! agh! ock!
(strangled by own intestine)
Some might certain of some believe that possibly perhaps!!!!! Auto movil 21:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks! re: FairTax
Thanks for the compliment re: FairTax. I now have it on my watch list, and I'll make it even better soon. --Unfocused 23:20, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Hello!
Hello, Pakaran/Kingdom of Misplaced Pages!
Jelou
Could you help us with this: Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Pakaran/Wikipedian political entities? - 68.251.209.191 23:16, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
User:Humanbot update 04 June 2005
Since you entered the mailing list while the project was down, I assume that you wanted to be told when it was up. Well, it's up. Note that it is generally unreliable at the moment and if it doesn't work now you should check back in a few hours. r3m0t 12:22, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
User:Humanbot update 08 June 2005
Version two-two released today includes in that green box a nice count of how many articles are left. This more or less co-incides with the event of hitting only 1000 articles remaining. Also, I have re-arranged the User:Humanbot page to make it easier to get to the right stuff. Progress charts, wikicookies, wikilove and a more thorough spelling check is promised when this is completed. (and also when the exam pressure eases off a little on me) r3m0t 17:40, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC) Note: If you think this message was too trivial for a mailing, tell me and I'll stick to more important announcements on the list.
New greetings!
Hello, 申忠容承和. - 68.72.129.171 02:59, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Newer greetings!
Hello, Pakaran! - 68.255.37.206 00:54, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
User:Humanbot update 13 June 2005
The spelling2 project (to work on secondary namespaces) was opened and finished. Progress charts will be available soon.
Version six-three tracks who made the edits, and rankings are available. Much of the work was done while I was asleep, explaining my low place ;).
The next project, which may even be released today, will probably fix incorrectly capitalised headings, particularly "See Also" and "External Links".
The mailing list has grown to 24 people and while that is very nice for my ego, it is rather difficult to send out updates. This is why I did not send out a notice that the spelling2 project had opened. From now on, then, you must watch User:Humanbot/announce for updates. r3m0t 12:03, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
NPOV??
The article on Ayn Rand/Objectivism seems to have been written by people who are attached to her ideas - who else would even think of her except as an author, and a rather interesting one at that? But she was an egomaniac and wanted everyone to act the same way. Push, push, knock anyone else out of the way, scorn the poorly educated as they are lazy, scorn the poor as they must be lazy, scorn the liberals who try to help the poor - feeding beggars (even if they are children, I'd suppose) encourages more begging and less work. Scorn architects following classical lines (I agree they can be a bore, but does everybody need a Saarinen or I.M. Pei. ?) Anyway, if you can balance the article so as to be more neutral - go for it. Carrionluggage 05:29, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)(please excuse ID - I think I became roadkill under the wheels of an Ayn Rand queenly chariot.)
A viewpoint that is worth considering is that Ayn Rand, an escapee from under the Communist heel of oppression, like Edward Teller, lost her ability to deal with different philosophies or viewpoints equitably. Contrast Nelson Mandela, who suffered under the Afrikaners but emerged a great leader, pretty much free of punitive emotion or vituperation. Carrionluggage 28 June 2005 05:10 (UTC)
Order of the Arrow
Your recent changes to the Order of the Arrow article have been reverted. There is a discussion on that article's talk page of whether or not that information is appropriate in the article. A consensus has not been reached, I'd say, so join the discussion there. --Myles Long 8 July 2005 21:22 (UTC)
- As the symbolic "no secrets in Scouting guy" on the article, I would like to thank you for your compromise on the safeguarding issue. For your information, the BSA has already released the four tests into the public through the National Fact Sheet (as I stated previous in the talk space) and I thought it was pretty much a bad idea to slap a spoiler warning box into the article for the main reason that the real juicy part of the Ordeal is not the tests themselves, but the learned lessons. Sleeping out under the stars was totally different for me than it was for you, and that's the real meaning I put behind my flap and sash, not the fact that I slept out alone, didn't eat a lot, didn't talk, and helped my camp out. Again, thanks. KC9CQJ 9 July 2005 00:48 (UTC)
Uncyclopedia
I notice your page The Kingdom of Misplaced Pages. Very funny. Perhaps you can put it up at Uncyclopedia, the free-er encyclopedia. -Hyad 06:43, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. It feels good to know there are people out there trying to make Misplaced Pages a nice place to be. – Quadell 02:17, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Dumblydore
Thanks for keeping a lid on the "Dumbledore is dead" crowd. We'll know for sure soon enough. Friday 20:17, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Libertarians
You don't have to oppose taxes to be a libertarian. Bkalafut 05:51, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
(Just saw your page at random, reverting a vandal's edit of something else)
Water
I'm a bit confused by your recent edit to Water. Is it not true that it's dangerous to drink too little while exercising? James 21:34, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
thanks again
hey, that´s a really funny article you have on Misplaced Pages Kingdom, made me smile.. keep up the good work. cheers... Antares911 20:28, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
- wow you´re quick. just send you an email back...
- just send you an email back again. thank you.
Rename
Hey, I've been trying to get a rename for a few days and it seems to take a long time. I don't know if its supposed to or not, but if it's not supposed to take a long time, will you help me out and get me renamed. Thanks for listening, bye. Misplaced Pages Username 22:15, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Rename Coolcat -> Cool_Cat_Cool_Cat-2005-08-08T17:07:00.000Z">
I would love to have this minor adjustment :) --Cool Cat 17:07, 8 August 2005 (UTC)_Cool_Cat"> _Cool_Cat">
Renaming_Cool_Cat-2005-08-09T00:06:00.000Z">
I'm renaming you right now, just so you know. Pakaran 00:06, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, User:Cool Cat already exists... is there another name you'd prefer? Pakaran 00:07, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
- That's my second account, sockpuppet. Which I was going to use for a bot but havent yet. --Cool Cat 00:53, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
Opposed_Cool_Cat">
I have to say I have a long ugly story which I will not relate now involving mainstream medicine, which was eventually resolved using herbal medicine etc.
Perpetual motion does exist, if you consider the electrons moving in a superconductor to be perpetual motion.
Func's RfA :)
{{Pakaran:thankyou/foryoursupport|Func|RFA}}! :)
Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.
Func( t, c, e, ) 18:58, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
RFA
I just want to thank you guys for considering me as a candidate. In retrospect, maybe I am a bit inexperienced, Ive only been here for a couple of months. Ill try to get a bit more experience and maybe Ill try again in a couple of months. Thanks again:)
Human Rights Servey on Misplaced Pages (The final post of I_sterbinski)
- Dear all,
- Misplaced Pages was recently a subject of intensive research of an huge international human right organization. A team of people from different nationalities and ages were acting on Misplaced Pages for 20 days, investigating previously noted anomalities of Misplaced Pages free editing and forming a final report, which (between the others similar reports) will later be a guide to all future moves of the organization concerning Misplaced Pages. Acting under an account of a real person, their privacy is to be held private. Therefore, very few private information will be revealed.
- Also, this is a result of the lack of final possition of the organization concerning Misplaced Pages and human rights, which was still not formed.
- The team's final post on Misplaced Pages, where they explain their actions can be found on the following addresses:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/User:I_sterbinski
- http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Macedonia#Human_Rights_Servey_on_Wikipedia_.28The_final_post_of_I_sterbinski.29
- The team would like to thank to all the persons who took part in the correspondence with us.
- We also want to appologise for keeping our identity secret for a longer period.
- Best regards,
- Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza
- I sterbinski 01:40, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
NTL letter
Hey, Pakaran,
Thanks for your support of the letter, but yes, it was already sent out. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that NTL will actually listen to us, seeing that I've got 26 signatures on there, including two Wikimedia board trustees, one developer, one bureaucrat, twelve administrators and ten normal editors... Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 17:09, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats' noticeboard
Nathan, I have created a new project page at Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats' noticeboard, and Secretondon suggested that I tell my fellow bureaucrats about it. It's designed as a forum where users with bureaucrat rights can discuss difficult situations, either beforehand (for advice about what to do) or after taking action (for review and feedback). It's similar to another page I created, which is starting to catch on (e.g., Jimbo used it this month): Misplaced Pages:account suspensions, which is not for 3RR or simple vandalism but for close calls and disputed blocks.
Please take a look at these new project pages and give some feedback. Good idea? Bad? Needs improvement? --Uncle Ed 12:19, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
w00t
SHINY! *steals* Redwolf24 (talk) 04:07, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
Bureaucratship
Hi, Pakaran. Thank you so much for your support and kind words on my bureaucratship nomination. Unfortunately, it didn't pass, but I intend to run again soon. If you'd like to be informed next time around, please let me know on my talk page. Thanks again! Andre (talk) 05:24, September 4, 2005 (UTC)
Popups tool
Congratulations on being made a bureaucrat! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Misplaced Pages:Tools#Navigation_popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is to paste the following into User:Pakaran/monobook.js:
// ] - please include this line document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Lupin/popups.js' + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>'); popupAdminLinks=true;
Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin 02:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Mutual funds and Wikibooks
Hi Pakaran. I saw your note on Jimbo's page. Note that investment advice might or might not be acceptable on wikibooks: the info itself would probably have to find an existing book, as something not even a page long is not a book (or, a larger book could be started that would include that in a section, but it's a bad idea to start books that don't have people interested in writing the rest of them). We've absolutely asserted that WB is not a dumping ground for WP content. Wikicities might be a better suggestion. MShonle 18:51, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Majel Barrett image
Is there any way of reinstate the image that was deleted for Majel Barrett? I'm willing to bet a proper Image tag could be added and all would be fine, but that's hard to do when the file has been deleted. Someone may just re-upload the same image anyway. For a page that is part of a major project like Star Trek it might have been more sporting to drop a message on the Discussion page rather than doing a speedy. (I disagree with Jimbo on this particular edict, especially with articles that are part of a set like this). Cheers. 23skidoo 04:32, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I guess my issue with this is that I wasn't aware this image was in danger of being deleted (I assume that it did go through the Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree images process, correct?). Had a note been dropped onto the discussion page, I or someone else might have been able to rectify the situation as I have that article on my watchlist. (PS. I did not upload that particular image, so I have no idea what it was. Most likely it was either a screenshot or a promotional image, both of which are kosher under Free Use; all it needed was the proper image tag notation.) I personally don't spend time looking at Jimbo's personal page; he should add this latest instruction to the front page or do some sort of blanket PM about it. Cheers. 23skidoo 04:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I left a suggestion on Jimbo's talk page that his instructions should be posted to the main page and/or the Upload Images page so more people are aware of what's going on, otherwise a lot of these deleted images are simply going to reappear, probably without anything changed regarding their image tags. 23skidoo 04:57, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I'll throw in a "me too," since you deleted one of mine as well... I don't have all my images on my watch list (would make it excessively long and probably add extra server load; I do however have the article it was on watched), and had no idea one of my images (which stated its source and the rational for being able to use it in a gfdl environment, but didn't have a specific tag) was going to be deleted. Now I need to track down the original again (hopefully, might be impossible), as when my laptop's hard drive crashed, it went poof. Of course, I know you're (probably) not responsible for this policy, but I still am going to have to mess around all night trying to re-find the image. :) Bushytails 06:46, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi!
Have you visited this page lately? -- 68.255.37.68 02:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
Adam1213
Thanks for unblocking Adam1213 and explaining the reason. I was a little irritated this morning when he appeared to ignore Wiki etiquette. He left a comment on my talk page using a proper topic subject so for me, the matter is settled now. — JIP | Talk 05:18, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the birthday greetings! You wouldn't have caught me on IRC anyhow; I wasn't there, shockingly enough... Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:33, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Pakaran - Thanks for the promotion and for the congratulations! If you need anything at all, please ask. --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 05:54, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Adminship
Thanks! I shall endeavor to not mess stuff up. :) tregoweth 02:15, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Template/Workshop
You, or any Misplaced Pages user, can contribute your suggestions and comments to the /Workshop page of any active arbitration case. Comments on evidence or proposals can help in understanding the import of evidence and in refining proposals. Proposed principles, findings of fact, or remedies may be listed on /Proposed decision and form part of the final decision. Fred Bauder 19:10, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thank you very much for the notification concerning my adminship. I will do my best to live up to the confidence that is being placed in me. Best, Johntex\ 19:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Bush jr. Branding
I realize it sounds far-fetched when you read it, but I would never report something for fact on dubious authority. The BBC World Service is without a doubt the most credible journalistic source in the business- it's the only one I never found in error (not counting futlities such as the pronunciation of a name in my native Dutch) in decades of critical listening. So if they report something without reserve, and even include it in the weekly digest "Pick of the Week", I take it, though I have no access to their documentation, that the burden of proof is on the other side. Surely every self-respecting government knows what the BBC broadcasts, so if it had been an utter lie there should have been a denial, which probably would have stirred a scandal, especially now the Blair-Bush axis is accentuated by the Iraqi 'peace front'. If yoy know of a denial, I'ld be happy to include that; you will see that I nevertheless chose the cautious phrasing "widely reported", leaving room for doubt which I personally don't see room for. I'm afraid we can't wait till it makes the history books.
As for the freshmen: organizations haze those that are initiated in their circle, regardless which academical year they are in, so it is impossible to haze but not freshmen in that sense- so I change the word freshman to initiant to clear that one up Fastifex 20:52, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the leg up!
I am honored to be an admin, and will use the powers with discretion - thank you for carrying out my promotion. Cheers! BDAbramson T 02:58, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
NPOV stuff
I am not sure why you wrote
"Hi, I was wondering if you'd like to read our NPOV policy before editing further? Thanks :) Pakaran 04:54, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)" but I don't think it is cogent - whatever I was doing. A major problem with Misplaced Pages is the people who believe in ESP, PK etc fill the pages with their POV, people who adore Ayn Rand's works overfill the pages of Objectivism and watch like hawks for changes, people who believe that the Earth is young and the story of Noah's Ark is literal truth fill pages with strawman arguments against themselves which they then demolish with their arguments, and they, too, watch like hawks for changes, and so on. The Noah's Ark story is important allegory and may have deeper meanings. It is also part of the Judeo-Christian tradition. But if you want to take it as the literal truth, then it makes no sense to conjure up "scientific" objections and then shoot them down. To do so is mucho POV. If you believe that the number 88, for example is a lucky number - OK. But if you then come up with objections against beliefs in lucky numbers, and fill up Misplaced Pages with these concocted objections and your own "scientific" rationalizations as to why 88 is "lucky" - nuts to you, as McAuliffe once said. Anyway, where did you see me doing NPOV stuff in your opinion? Thanks Carrionluggage 01:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I was a bit nasty, but she's nastier. I guess I'll give up on the subject, as anything critical I write will soon be removed. Thanks Carrionluggage 06:43, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Sure. OK Carrionluggage 06:52, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
My promotion to admin
I was expecting a much longer wait before getting the cliché mop; thanks alot for the promotion. I'll do my best to live up to the expectations of my supporters and the IP vandal who opposed me. ^_^ // Pathoschild 07:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Esperanza elections
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Linus Torvalds flame war
FYI, the anon user was probably referring to this, and the ensuing animated discussion. Neilc 23:34, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
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User Jtdirl
Hi could you unblock user:Bill_the_Bear he has been unfairly been accused of being a sockpuppet, the person that I am allegedly a sockpuppet of has been unblocked. The one edit that I have made has since been shown to be accurate but this admin abuses his power to block users.
So are you going to unblock me?
Blocked ip
Hi,
Re the IP block, the user in question is suspected of being a particular troll who under an arbcom ruling is automatically blocked indefinitely for posting such comments. (They have been blocked indefinitely at a variety of IPs and usernics already.) As to their comments, they have left themselves open to criminal prosecution. If any one of the millions of users visiting WP sees that edit in the edit history of the article in question they could report it to the police. Indeed in many jurisdictions where mandatory reporting exists, the mere suspicion that someone may be a child abuser due to their comments would produce a legal requirement that someone finding that comment would have to report it to the police and the police would have to investigate it. The identity of the user making the claim would then be traced (as can be done relatively easily in most cases) and then the complaint passed on from whichever jurisdiction the report was made in by police forces to the local force of the person who made the comment. There is as a result a strong possibility that at best the person who made that claim in the edit summary could have a visit from the police. There is a possibility that a criminal investigation may be opened against them. Even if there is no evidence that their claim is true, posting it would be an instantly sackable offence in most jobs if a work computer was used, and would earn instant expulsion if posted from a school computer. It is quite a serious matter, far more so than was actually conveyed by the message. (A lawyer friend to whom I described the edit earlier reckoned that it if reported to the police the comment, even if as is likely to be the case merely a joke, could get the poster into massive legal hotwater. Given the nature of the comment an indefinite ban was the only option, not least to protect WP both from possible media attack and from any of the legal complexities that could arise from such a claim. As mentioned, comments implying criminal behaviour by the poster or anyone else in an edit summary have generated an automatic instant indefinitive ban.) FearÉIREANN\ 00:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Administor
hello can you give me some tips on how to be an administor Whopper 22:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)