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| :maybe u should go to all eastern front articles and add what u find in these books than the german lost 1000000 tanks and 200000000 men. very good value for the reader] (]) 07:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC) | :maybe u should go to all eastern front articles and add what u find in these books than the german lost 1000000 tanks and 200000000 men. very good value for the reader] (]) 07:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| "During the course of the battle, the Soviets advanced some 100 miles (160 kilometers) northward and seized the key transportation hub of Debrecen. When viewed purely in terms of ground lost or gained, the Battle of Debrecen was a Soviet victory. The German counter-attack at Nyíregyháza allowed an orderly withdrawal of Axis forces in the area, the formation of a solid front line, and the prevention of a Soviet eruption into the rear areas of Army Group Wöhler. Thus, while the Soviets advanced, their goal of cutting off Group Wöhler was frustrated. The casualty rates of both sides were of a similar order of magnitude, also indicating there was no clear victor in the battle." | |||
| are this your findings, where is this from ???? ] (]) 08:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
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I have whacked the page under WP:CSD G12. You can now recreate a stub at your leisure. Please alert me of any similar copyvios you notice - we need to be careful about this. Thanks and Happy New Year! Buckshot06 (talk) 09:27, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
nope
"official soviet surces" arent reliable, they "update" their numbers with every book. this sources arent reliable, and iam sure thats a fact on wiki, so there is no need to include them in the article. iam no censor, i only deleted fantasy numbers from an article Blablaaa (talk) 06:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- changed your edit. its not even the correct place for this sci fi figures, u can discuss in the article and no in a "ref" because the ref their doesnt support the figures above... Blablaaa (talk) 06:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
what did u not understand? that this source is not a relaible source or that your "footnote" is at the wrong place because its a ref for other numbers. what did u miss? , i will change again because u ref numbers with a sentence which contradicts this refs. thats simply wrong. put it somewhere else but not behind this numbers. this number are krivosheev and your number contradic this. please try to understand what i explained now to u, even when my english is terrible Blablaaa (talk) 07:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Mr Wilson, I've reverted Blablaaa's edits. Please provide the date of the GErman translation of the Soviet official history and if possible, the date of the original publishing of the Soviet official history. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
blödsinn.... das hat nix damit zu tun wie ich die sache sehe sondern das sie sinnlose schwachsinn sind, deswegen scherrt sich niemand um russische daten über deutsche verluste, weil das simple kriegsschätzungen sind, verstehst du das nicht ? niemand sieht diese daten als reliable an deswegen benutzt man sie einfach nicht. diese schrott bücher sollten ignoriert werden sie verdienen es gar nicht gelesen zu werden Blablaaa (talk) 07:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- maybe u should go to all eastern front articles and add what u find in these books than the german lost 1000000 tanks and 200000000 men. very good value for the readerBlablaaa (talk) 07:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
hmmm
"During the course of the battle, the Soviets advanced some 100 miles (160 kilometers) northward and seized the key transportation hub of Debrecen. When viewed purely in terms of ground lost or gained, the Battle of Debrecen was a Soviet victory. The German counter-attack at Nyíregyháza allowed an orderly withdrawal of Axis forces in the area, the formation of a solid front line, and the prevention of a Soviet eruption into the rear areas of Army Group Wöhler. Thus, while the Soviets advanced, their goal of cutting off Group Wöhler was frustrated. The casualty rates of both sides were of a similar order of magnitude, also indicating there was no clear victor in the battle."
are this your findings, where is this from ???? Blablaaa (talk) 08:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)