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Unfortunately, the entry on Konzentrazionslager Warschau is highly misleading. No evidence exists of neither the gas chamber in the West Warsaw tunnel, nor of the claimed huge number of victims (who, according to the proponents of the KL Warschau campaign, are to have been "Polish Christians," victims of a "Christian Holocaust"). The evidenced produced in her book by Maria Trzcinska is flawed and biased. None of the historians specializing in WWII nor any survivors of the occupation in Warsaw support her argument or even take it seriously. Similar is the position on the issue of the Institute of National Rememberance (IPN).
The camp set up in the area of the prison at Gesiowka was the only unit of the alleged "death camp KL Warschau" that ever existed. The total number of victims of KL Warschau could have amounted to a few tens of thousands at the most, the great majority of whom were in fact not Polish Christians, but non-Polish Jews (Greek, Belgian, French, etc.) brought to Warsaw in 1943 as labor force to dismantle the remainings of what used to be the Warsaw ghetto.
Had a major death camp eqipped with gas chambers and operating on the scale similar to Treblinka (200,000 victims in 1,5 year) been located in the middle of Warsaw, it would have been widely known both during and after the Nazi occupation.
The currently on-going campaign that aims at winning official recognition of the alleged death camp is an unfortunate product of the nationalist imagination and a political undertaking of the nationalist catholic right. It seeks to create a counter-narrative to the history of the Holocaust and foreground what is perceived as the unrecognized suffering of the Catholic Poles. In fact, and fortunately, it is--as of yet--merely a marginal artifact of local exoticism, and should only be regarded as such.



Perhaps the page needs some explanation of the post-war controversies and the current IPN trial. Any volunteers? ]]]] 02:06, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC) Perhaps the page needs some explanation of the post-war controversies and the current IPN trial. Any volunteers? ]]]] 02:06, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)



Revision as of 04:19, 28 March 2006

Unfortunately, the entry on Konzentrazionslager Warschau is highly misleading. No evidence exists of neither the gas chamber in the West Warsaw tunnel, nor of the claimed huge number of victims (who, according to the proponents of the KL Warschau campaign, are to have been "Polish Christians," victims of a "Christian Holocaust"). The evidenced produced in her book by Maria Trzcinska is flawed and biased. None of the historians specializing in WWII nor any survivors of the occupation in Warsaw support her argument or even take it seriously. Similar is the position on the issue of the Institute of National Rememberance (IPN). The camp set up in the area of the prison at Gesiowka was the only unit of the alleged "death camp KL Warschau" that ever existed. The total number of victims of KL Warschau could have amounted to a few tens of thousands at the most, the great majority of whom were in fact not Polish Christians, but non-Polish Jews (Greek, Belgian, French, etc.) brought to Warsaw in 1943 as labor force to dismantle the remainings of what used to be the Warsaw ghetto. Had a major death camp eqipped with gas chambers and operating on the scale similar to Treblinka (200,000 victims in 1,5 year) been located in the middle of Warsaw, it would have been widely known both during and after the Nazi occupation. The currently on-going campaign that aims at winning official recognition of the alleged death camp is an unfortunate product of the nationalist imagination and a political undertaking of the nationalist catholic right. It seeks to create a counter-narrative to the history of the Holocaust and foreground what is perceived as the unrecognized suffering of the Catholic Poles. In fact, and fortunately, it is--as of yet--merely a marginal artifact of local exoticism, and should only be regarded as such.


Perhaps the page needs some explanation of the post-war controversies and the current IPN trial. Any volunteers? ] 02:06, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

I suppose, it should be mentioned, that the existence of gas chambers in KL Warschau is not proved.

And with no connection with above topic. Shall it be mentioned, that liberated during Warsaw Uprising part of KL Warschau was called "Gęsiówka". MWeinz

Well... it is mentioned, isn't it. ]]] 15:08, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

Changed "Kozetrazionslager" to "Konzentrationslager" which is the correct spelling user:Barlotto

This kind of comments is usually entered into the "Edit summary" field. mikka (t) 19:18, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

One person saw KL Warschau operating and survived

Jan Moor-Jankowski a Polish born doctor ( about whom is a separate article in wikipedia ) during World War II while working for the polish resistance was ( by mistake ) arrested by the Germans and taken to KL Warschau . Since he was disguising himself as a member of the Todt organisation ( Nazi engineers organisation , i think ), he was released . He was the only witness of the camp operating . Also there are some evidence that after WWII communists used KL Warschau as a prison for those that opposed their reign ( while still emploing captive Germans there ). That's why the camps existence wasn't reaveled by the communists after the war .