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ArbCom case amendment request
He does it again
Help me with this, because I am afraid I won't be able to hold myself from WP:PA.--Mikej007 (talk) 07:38, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Blocked
For continued battleground conduct in the domain you are topic-banned from, including this personal attack, you are blocked for another 3 months. Next time you are found to edit disruptively, be it inside the Arbcom-imposed period of topic ban or afterwards, will mean an indefinite block. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
...and I'm sure that you will be the one to make the judgment and you will execute the block if any, am I right? :) Remember this E-mail FP? You have sent to me accidently???
You still doing it.
Are you going to block Matthead for this ] personal attack on Polish editor?
Seddon,
I can't leave this without a response: No, I will most certainly not be "more careful" and avoid making blocks like this. I am 100%, totally, utterly, uninvolved in all content disputes in this Eastern European area. If you think I have "any history", even an "obscure" one, with this editor, or even "a COI" as you claimed, this is a very serious allegation, which I ask you to either substantiate or retract. Every "involvement" I have had with these editors, including my activities regarding the Arbcom case, have been purely in my role as an outside observer and administrator. (Being concerned with the situation as an administrator doesn't of course bar me from having opinions about how Arbcom should deal with it.)
The editors in this field (on all sides of the frontlines) have a history of biting away and "using up" uninvolved administrators. Their most common tactics is just this: after any administrative action they don't like, they just shout and protest long and persistently enough and hound the administrator in question through forums with their complaints, until people are left with the impression the admin has a conflict with them. Several of our best admins have been chased off in this way. I have only now begun to step into the gap these others have left, and I feel I am sorely needed in that role. We don't have the luxury of passing off such judgments to others, there are simply not enough of us who have the necessary experience and power of judgment.
BTW, I have no problems in principle with your shortening of the block in this case, as some other observers had also indicated they would have gone for a shorter block. However, I would have preferred it if you had engaged in this discussion on-wiki yourself. This was an Arbcom-related sanction, and you are certainly well aware that "administrators are cautioned not to reverse such sanctions without familiarizing themselves with the full facts of the matter and engaging in extensive discussion". I am assuming in your favour that you have probably at least read and evaluated the discussions that happened, but it would have been preferable if you had participated in them or at least explicitly referred to them and explained your decision in relation to them.
F.P.
Am Samstag, den 07.11.2009, 14:46 +0000 schrieb Joseph Seddon: Hey future perfect, > > I have just finished processing the request. I have spent alot of time mulling this one over and looking back over the history, since its not a simple request in my eyes. Also I have been very busy in RL but i can say that I used that time to consider the unblock. > > Regards to your involvement, I suggest that you be more careful in future when blocking people who have have any history with yourself, even if it is somewhat obscure. Although the reason for the block was fairly legitimate, having a COI simply throws yourself and the block into question and can often cause the block to become illegitimate, resulting in a net negative and the person being unblocked. Its best just to get another admin to do the block if there is any doubt, however remote. If you ever do need an admin to review a situation then feel free to contact me on irc, skype or gchat. I can often be found on one of them. > > Best wishes, > > Seddon