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HeHe sorry

I didn't know that many flags could do that... However I will admit my Ukranian invasion was over the top, even for my monitor. 68.39.174.238 07:38, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

There, I did it again with some |thumb's so it shouldn't crash you up. I couldn't resist his obnoxious comment/warnings blanking... 68.39.174.238 07:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

You owe 66.17.116.148 an apology. Jim16 00:17, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Janitorial WikiMedal

Regarding 66.17.116.148

You owe him/her an apology for blanking his talk page. It was not nice of you to revert his own edits to his talk page. Jim16 01:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Re. User:Jim16 & User:66.17.116.148

Please see my comment on Administrators' noticeboard & User_talk:Jim16. -- KTC 03:03, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for WikiThanks.

After noting abusive behaviour on top of sock puppetrying (and various charges of vandalism on the anon. history), I've posted on WP:ANI. -- KTC 20:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Rollback priveleges

Please see my entry, and support me if possible!--TheDoctor10 (talk|email) 18:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Much appreciation for your barnstars and your formatting of my userpage. --ScienceApologist 21:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm in

I'm watching. I'm approving. Keep counting me "in" until I say otherwise, if you please. "Me too" is weak; but it's me. WAS 4.250 06:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

REV

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page 220.247.253.200 04:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Deletion help

Someone tried to create an AfD but is running into trouble, think you can help us out? - Rudykog 06:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, someone fixed it, sorry to bother you. - Rudykog 06:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I have never vandalised wikipedia

I must say that I found your note to me somewhat offensive as I never vandalised wikipedia or even looked at the article you refer to. It may be that every AOL user comes up the same (as we sem to be classified as multiple users) but rest assured I have not done anything untoward. I havent even read the page on 'cattle' until today and have nothing to add to that. Ben

Reverting

Hello RoyBoy, how are you able to revert as fast as you are? CDVF alone can't be it. Thanks! Cyberevil 04:09, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Now that I call elegant! :) Cyberevil 04:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, thanks again. You really made this a science. No wonder you are so fast! :) Cyberevil 04:26, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll fix myself a coffee now and set me up as an uber-vandalfighter, thanks to you! Cyberevil 04:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

User page vandalism

Yet again I have to thank you, Roy! This time for reverting that vandalism. Cyberevil 03:34, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

192.195.225.6

Do you think that was a bot or a very fast typist? Are there known 'vandal bots' floating around out there? It appears as if it was grabbing articles via the random article link and blanking them systematically. Ohnoitsjamie_talk 07:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

LBU entry

• WarriorScribe is a jackass, so don't expect there to be a consensus. He's bent on trying to discredit LBU and remove the notable alumni. Overall, he's against religious people and their endeavors. The bottom line is there is no good reason, no reputable source, and no proof that LBU is a diploma mill. The accusation is a fabrication of WarriorScribe's making and it has been perpetuated by a couple of his friends. You would think SOMETHING could be found in Google if his lies were even remotely true. But nothing exists because he just made it up and he wants to push his opinion into Misplaced Pages. --207.200.116.72 06:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

• Brave boy, that Gastrich, hiding behind false names and IP addresses. And such a fine, Christian attitude, too!

Gastrich can whimper and whine about lies all he wants...the record speaks for itself and it wouldn't take much to provide more evidence that Gastrich is about self-promotion (even if it means lying, which he does often). Furthermore, I don't think I introduced the "diploma mill" commentary into the discussion, and it is not a "fabrication." Let's consider that there were reasons why even the state of Louisiana was, shall we say, a tad reluctant...to allow LBU a license to operate. Gastrich has a personal stake in all of this since he's a "graduate student" at the school. He can't separate feelings from facts.

Having said all of that, I don't have a problem with a concensus. In fact, if you'll check the edits, even after I said that the list should be fully gone, I actually put it back once, in reduced form, thinking that maybe a smaller list with some rather relaxed criteria would be okay.

I have nothing against religious people. For one thing, I'm Jewish. I attend shul on Saturdays and observe the High Holy Days as much as I am able. And Gastrich cannot demonstrate a single lie on my part, while I can demonstrate many on his. All you have to do is ask, and you know what? I may not even wait for that... WarriorScribe 07:54, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

• Hey, Roy! Take a look at this and check the history and the changes back and forth under the same IP. Any ideas? WarriorScribe 08:06, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

• Just to make this more obvious I am going to paste this here. There is some very strange editing occuring on the LBU page. There areconflicting edits in the revert war coming from the same computer. There is no way a dynamic IP would keep shifting between two users this way. Judging from the time differences they are the same person or in the room together. This looks a lot like trolling hell from my perspective.

I'm assuming the bold above is a different user to the normal text. Those edits are minutes apart. The weirdness continues, IP 207.200.116.6 made the following two edits 50 minutes apart . It does not get stranger than that. David D. (Talk) 08:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

WarriorScribe's deceit and poor personal research

RoyBoy, I'm glad you're trying to help the entry. However, it's going to take some work with WarriorScribe's nonsense.

He wrote, "The alleged requirement that students must submit a "hardbound copy for their campus library" is a claim made by Gastrich and not supported independently. Let's keep in mind that the school doesn't have a "library," per se--all affiliated libraries are electronic. Consequently, it is somewhat less than honest for Gastrich to make this claim." However, he knows these are lies.

LBU has a campus library. They require students to submit a hardbound copy for their library. This has already been stated in their own literature; a link that he read and even found! See page 20 and point number 6.

WarriorScribe is a guy named Dave Horn who is both hostile to religion and religious people and a known liar. He is very single-minded in his online life and certainly in his Misplaced Pages contributions. Getting a consesus with him involved will certainly be impossible.

--Jason Gastrich 22:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

• For the record, that's the first time I've seen that PDF, but it doesn't prove anything. Secondly, I still don't know where this "library" is, and neither does Gastrich. The campus, as far as anyone knows, consists of a single building. It is not a lie or deceitful to make a statement on something believed to be true. If one visits the LBU web site and clicks on the "libraries" link, one finds that the only libraries mentioned are electronic. Claims that Gastrich makes with respect to what I know are flat-out dishonest, intended to advance his own hate-filled, sectarian agenda here at Misplaced Pages.

• In the second paragraph, Gastrich again asserts that there is a campus library. Ask him where it is. Even if it's in the single building that exists on the campus, ask him which room. Now, you need to understand (and you probably already do), that it's possible that there is a special "library" room of sorts where a "thesis" or a "dissertation" might be kept, but when questioned about this, Gastrich couldn't answer it, either. And I suspect that referencing an alleged scan on a site under a domain that Gastrich owns is problematic, at best. Why can't his claims be independently verified at the LBU site or anywhere else? As near as I can tell from my examination of what is available to me, there is nothing that most of us would think is a "library" on the LBU campus. If there is, no one seems to know about it.

• In the third paragraph, Gastrich refers you to a Google Group that he created, using a domain name stolen from me ("maleboge"). It has a series of articles that were composed by someone named "Fraud Buster." This "Fraud Buster" went to great lengths to pretend that he and Gastrich were not one and the same, even to the point of putting up the illusion of sending emails back and forth and posting as if they are different people. But the evidence clearly shows that Gastrich is "Fraud Buster" and that was most recently confirmed by John Wolf, otherwise known as "Bible John," who also happens to be an erstwhile, though now former, partner in deception with Gastrich. In fact, after a bit of a falling out between the two, "Bible John" also exposed Gastrich's tactics at Misplaced Pages, which include recruiting him and another Usenet participant, "Uncle Davey," to praise Gastrich publicly. Davey apparently declined. The fact is that Gastrich, while pretending to "bust frauds," as it were (and allegedly including yours truly), perpetuated fraud on his readership, however small it might be.

• Furthermore, with respect to this issue, the real liar is Gastrich. His Google group is populated by, apparently, 4 "members," but only Gastrich, as "Fraud Buster," ever posts articles and it's likely that he is the only one permitted to do so. At the maleboge.org site, Gastrich is free to post any time he wishes. What he did was seek "membership" in the group under a false name, was denied, and created the stolen-domain-name group. Gastrich, as he usually does, then set up redirects and, even though I don't have a web site up yet under the maleboge.org domain (which I own), set it up so that if someone accidentally types dot-com instead of dot-org, they go to his group. Why? Because there is information at the maleboge.org group that he doesn't want people to see. It's just one method that he uses to silence opposition, since he is incapable of intelligently dealing with these issues, as well as the exposure of his attempts to perpetuate fraud and use Christianity as a self-promotional tool. At any rate, there are a number of articles at the maleboge.org group that have pointed out and questioned a number of Gastrich's tactics, and he even signed on for a membership in the group just after it was formed. He's never posted.

• The point here is that the malboge.org group allows rebuttal. His stolen-domain-name group does not. Consequently, I have responded to and refuted each of Gastrich's claims. Here are some of those rebuttals (and corrections of the many things that Gastrich gets wrong):

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• I'll stop there...you get the idea, however, feel free to ask me any questions about this as you see fit.

• What's probably most amusing about all of this is that Gastrich has made a couple of speeches about how ineffectual the talk group is, how ineffectual I am, and how he runs this wildly successful ministry, and yet, he went to a lot of effort, even further damaging his credibility (since most of what he claimed was either made up, misunderstood, or misrepresented). In the end, Gastrich is a believer in his own peculiar form of once-saved-always-saved Christianity, which he uses to justify any act as long as he can at least represent that it's in the name of Jesus. That includes dishonesty and the hate so obviously exudes from every message. Check his history--not just at Misplaced Pages, but on Usenet, at web sites, in debates...you'll find a continuing pattern of dishonest, hypocritical (he once criticized me because I live in an apartment...an interesting criticism considering his, eh, let's call it his "history of residences"), and juvenile behavior. If you need any assistance, just let me know. WarriorScribe 23:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

• One last point: I've already answered the issue of my alleged "hostility" to religions or religious people. I have no problem with either of those things. When someone uses religion to take advantage of others, well, that's another matter...and that's what Gastrich tries to do. As to being a "known liar," well, if we define a liar as one whom engages in deliberate deception, I will point out, and not for the first time, that Gastrich has never been able to point out any specific lies that I have told. I, on the other hand, can nail Gastrich on numerous lies, the most recently obvious being the identity of the "Fraud Buster." WarriorScribe 23:36, 15 January 2006 (UTC)