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| ''Signatures will be e-mailed to Mr. Wales, rather than posted on his talk page with the petition to prevent bullies from finding new targets. E-mail me with your signature if you are concerned and do not want to sign here. You can e-mail me through Misplaced Pages: . Bullies have been to and are reading this page.'' | ''Signatures will be e-mailed to Mr. Wales, rather than posted on his talk page with the petition to prevent bullies from finding new targets. E-mail me with your signature if you are concerned and do not want to sign here. You can e-mail me through Misplaced Pages: . Bullies have been to and are reading this page.'' | ||
| ==Outside view by FeloniousMonk== | |||
| Much of Benapgar' frustration and venting against admins here is the result of his repeated issues arising from apparent inability to abide by ] and ] as documented in his recent user conduct RFC, ]. Ben's time would be better spent working to contribute to the project in a more constructive and meaningful way as opposed to raising tendentious petitions. Before any petition of this sort can gain a semblance of credibility, its bringer needs to demonstrate to the community that they are dedicated to all the community's codes and conventions, particularly one as a central to it's functioning as ]. Ben's ] and trolling undermines will any legitimacy this petition attempts to claim. ] 06:29, 17 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Revision as of 06:29, 17 January 2006
This is a petition I am going to send to Jimbo Wales, owner of Misplaced Pages. If you have any changes you want to suggest, discuss them on the discussion page. I will definitely consider things anyone wants to add or change--especially if you do not want to sign it for one reason or another, but it is my petition. If people edit it to their liking then maybe I won't want to sign it and then there won't be much point in me making a petition anymore :P. So, please discuss on the talk page.
- www.bullyonline.org has some good references if you want to learn more about bullying, or to help refine ideas for changes that you might have.
Bullying
Mr. Wales, there is a lot of bullying going on in Misplaced Pages. It makes for a very toxic social environment and should be one of your top concerns.
The sheer number of administrators means it is very likely that there are not just several administrators who are bullies on Misplaced Pages, but several gangs of bullies. A school of 1000 is likely to have several groups of bullies, and there is no reason why Misplaced Pages would be an exception. Misplaced Pages is the perfect environment for a bully, even better than a school. The bully can assume a position of power by becoming an administrator quite quickly and easily, especially considering the apparent willingness to promote nearly every user who is nominated. Reverting vandals and correcting spelling and grammar mistakes can provide a long list of edits. After creating a few articles and winning a few easily winnable arguments to establish their competence, the bully can and will try to become an administrator. Bullies who are administrators can also recruit and enable the promotion of sycophants--and this has likely been happening since the very first bully became an administrator. Further, volunteers are often targets of bullies, as bullies see a willingness to give of oneself as a vulnerability. While a school or workplace--even a volunteer workplace--has a static hiearchy, Misplaced Pages has a dynamic hierarchy. Misplaced Pages's noteriety--the number one result in Google for hundreds of topics--and a dictation of all knowledge, is a magnet for those not interested in creating an encylopedia, but in wielding power: bullies, narcissists, and sociopaths. It is evident from places like Usenet that this occurs. Misplaced Pages is no different, and by its nature and stature is actually many, many, times more enticing to those kinds of people. Even the least competent of bullies can become administrators.
Given that these groups can use regular Wikipedians (as opposed to other administrators with equal power) as their targets, and that other administrators have other concerns, this can reach (and I believe has reached) epidemic proportions. Bullies can avoid being caught by focusing on certain articles and targets and relying on other administrators to act as ambivalent bystanders in the event they are caught. Gangs and groups can congregate in IRC, away from the eyes of other administrators--though they are often not looking in the first place. There are already clear hiearchies within certain groups of administrators, with one administrator acting as leader (the head bully). The ad hoc voting system encourages the recruitment of attention-seekers who act as the lead bully does in order to seek and obtain approval from the head bully. This also results in mobbing of individuals.
I am asking you to act on this very grave problem which could--with no exaggeration--destroy Misplaced Pages. This is a serious problem you must address now. You may disagree it is at the point of an epidemic, but refusal to face the fact that there are bullies on Misplaced Pages, in all levels of the Misplaced Pages bureaucracy, and that there are users being bullied right now just by virtue of the size of the community, can and will lead to the disaster that Usenet has become.
We, the undersigned, believe that bullying is currently a grave problem on Misplaced Pages and has reached, or, without intervention, will reach, epidemic proportions. Bullying is injurious to your users and threatens the future of Misplaced Pages. We demand this issue be addressed.
- Ben 01:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Signatures will be e-mailed to Mr. Wales, rather than posted on his talk page with the petition to prevent bullies from finding new targets. E-mail me with your signature if you are concerned and do not want to sign here. You can e-mail me through Misplaced Pages: . Bullies have been to and are reading this page.
Outside view by FeloniousMonk
Much of Benapgar' frustration and venting against admins here is the result of his repeated issues arising from apparent inability to abide by WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA as documented in his recent user conduct RFC, Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Benapgar. Ben's time would be better spent working to contribute to the project in a more constructive and meaningful way as opposed to raising tendentious petitions. Before any petition of this sort can gain a semblance of credibility, its bringer needs to demonstrate to the community that they are dedicated to all the community's codes and conventions, particularly one as a central to it's functioning as WP:CIVIL. Ben's extensive recent history of religious-based personal attacks and trolling undermines will any legitimacy this petition attempts to claim. FeloniousMonk 06:29, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
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