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You may know that there is an ongoing dispute between myself and User:Mathsci, who has told me that you are "dealing with this at the moment". Is that correct? If so, I would quite like to move forward as it is all getting rather tiresome. Mathsci has presumably given you his side of the story: since I shall be away for a little while I thought it might be good to let you see it from my point of view. Briefly I have been subject to a sustained program of harassment, hounding, abuse, insult and personal attacks from M.

• Hounding

• Topological group. My first edit reverted by M the same day (26/09/2009) as "unhelpful". Restored by consensus on the article talk page.
• Thomas Octavius Prichard. New article by me PRODded within three hours by M as a "hoax" . The PROD was contested by another user. This was clear bad faith, as the article already had reliable sources available and easy to check online, and M did not go to the article talk page to explain his concerns. (Amazingly M later reversed his position and is now editing the article quite productively.)
• Semigroup. New section by me reverted by M within five hours as misleading and misreprenting a source . In fact it is not mentioned in that source and another version with reliable source references available online was reverted again by M within five hours as "spurious", "misleading", "speculative", "WP:UNDUE", "WP:SYNTH". Consensus on article talk page suggests that M has simply misunderstood the use of the word "semigroup" here.

• Harassment

• Bizarre SPI against me, closed with no action: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Quotient group
• Complaint to ANI with no previous attempts at dispute resolution, made three hours after SPI closed, clear case of forum-shopping, sank without trace:

• Abuse, insult and personal attacks

• At Talk:Charles Sanford Terry (historian), where I had detected a minor error

• "wikistalking" "account likely to be blocked"
• "QG has been following me around in a rather creepy way." "All his contributions to wikipedia are creepy."

• Groundless accusations of sockpuppetry and wikihounding broadcast in numerous venues
• Numerous edit summaries involving such words as "sockpuppet", "wikistalk", "misleading", "misrepresenting", "trolling", list too long and boring to compile right now
• See also although to be fair M blanked it later

Let me address those recent accusations of sockpuppetry. M alleges that a Checkuser has authorised him to say that I am a sockpuppet of User:A.K.Nole, User:Matilda and User:Maud. I don't know what he has been told, certainly I have not been informed of any such findings. As far as I'm concerned the Nole thing was rejected at the SPI mentioned above. Maud has edited just once, five years ago. Matilda is a retired admin. These allegations as reported by M are just obvious nonsense. Whatever M may or may not have been told, to broadcast these allegations without even troubling to see that they are in fact totally unbelievable is irresponsible and a clear attempt to harass and denigrate me.

My position is -- I want to continue editing without finding my work being promptly reverted by Mathsci on spurious grounds accompanied by insults. I can cheerfully undertake not to follow him around either.

If you are handling this dispute, please consider whether these actions by User:Mathsci are appropriate, and whether my proposals are acceptable? If not, and someone else is in charge of the case, please would you advise them, and me? If in fact no-one at all is looking into this, please would you do so? Thanks. Quotient group (talk) 17:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I am aware of the situation and have been following up. We're now in a position where some of the information is best discussed privately, however, you don't have email enabled. Since I do (and I also have numerous other contacts listed at the top of this page), would you please email me or contact me via another method so we can discuss the results of the checkuser specifically and the current issue more generally. Thanks. Shell 20:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I have enabled email. Quotient group (talk) 21:32, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. You have one waiting. Shell 21:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Received successfully, thanks, and replied. Quotient group (talk) 11:28, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles

Shell, I've done a numbers of articles from a number of sources. Please feel free to review and edit what you feel you need to, but deleting articles sounds a bit drastic. I've always thought that the purpose of Misplaced Pages was to make information available, not exclude it. Sf46 (talk) 20:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Asgardian Arbitration

Thank you for all the hard work you and the rest of the Arbitration Committee put into the case. Your intervention into what has been a three-year problem is much appreciated! Nightscream (talk) 19:47, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, LPTF

I'd like to get in touch with you sometime tomorrow (Monday) if possible, by IRC, gchat, or preferably voice skype. Let me know if you're available, if not we can figure out a time. Keegan (talk) 05:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey Keegan - Mondays are unfortunately my busiest spot, but I should be available the rest of the week ;) Shell 14:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Evidence talk page

I think we need to discuss our Evidence and started this section to allow input from others: . I hope this is fully consistent with the purpose of Discussion page. Thank you for your previous comment.Biophys (talk) 21:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Biophys (talk) 22:22, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Not sure where/how to address this

I would like to note regarding your comment that EEML dealt only with accusations against members of the list. Evidence which was piled on myself and others by our antagonists, and my and others' evidence pointing to myself/others NOT being the source of WP disruption (rather, my accusers being the source of disruption) was never dealt with. I regret that I see the same pattern of involvement of aligned-by-POV editors and their production of mind-numbing litanies of charges as occurred at EEML.
   Arbcom might consider that the two or three times I might have shown up somewhere that I hadn't already otherwise (because I had already edited on WP before bulk-reading my Email, sadly, I was informed that editing IPs were no longer available for me to prove my case) is not the massively disruptive influence on WP that some would seek to make it out to be, those same some appearing to now be on a campaign to tar any editor they consider a thorn in their side. I'm topic banned, yet it appears the life-energy-and-time-sucking gravity well remains.
  Unfortunately, PL circumstances at the moment preclude my having the time to deal with EEML and its aftermath appropriately. Best regards,  PЄTЄRS VЄСRUМВА ►talk  22:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

My Photo Uploads=

Hi. Thanks for your interest and help. All The photos I've uploaded were either taken by me personally, or belong to my family. I will upload the non-croped photo of Sgt. Hyman "Hank" Bergman which is an original photo. Thanks.Legwarmers1980 (talk) 03:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)legwarmers1980

Ping

Response to Shell — Give it some time?

Shell Kinney -- Your comment here in Request for clarification: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 is relevant in the currently open Tang Dynasty thread: You explained that "You're back on the right path - give it some time before immersing yourself in a difficult environment again."

Whether viewed from the starting point over a year ago, or construed in the terms of this one "clarification" thread, I have undoubtedly satisfied whatever anyone might mean by "'give it some time' before immersing yourself in a difficult environment again."

Arguably, the effort to locate mentors and their comments in this thread was progress along "the right path" and yet, there is no joy in Mudville.

Why?

What distinguishes this Tang Dynasty thread from "the right path?" If this is not a "the right path", please explain it to those who have volunteered to explain such things to me.

Ping.

Shell Kinney -- Now what? Cui bono?

• This whatever-it-is is indistinguishable from punishment; and I'm left wondering what precisely am I being punished for?
• What recidivism is thus prevented?

How are the volunteer mentors and others in the community expected to construe this thread? What are you going to do?

I look forward to your further comments; and I continue to hope for action. --Tenmei (talk) 20:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)