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| :::::Everyone can see what sort of editor you are. I'm not interested in filing reports, but you should still be ashamed of what you're doing. --] (]) 17:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC) | :::::Everyone can see what sort of editor you are. I'm not interested in filing reports, but you should still be ashamed of what you're doing. --] (]) 17:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC) | ||
| ::::::What I'm doing? You mean putting sourced facts into an article? Or that I do not admit in my edit summaries that I am just making stuff up? Or that I'm not accusing other editors of bad faith editing? ] (]) 17:54, 10 June 2010 (UTC) | ::::::What I'm doing? You mean putting sourced facts into an article? Or that I do not admit in my edit summaries that I am just making stuff up? Or that I'm not accusing other editors of bad faith editing? ] (]) 17:54, 10 June 2010 (UTC) | ||
| :::::::That you're putting ''unsourced'' facts into an article, or dishonestly citing sources which don't support what you're writing, or putting off-topic information into an article just to smear a particular nation that you seem to have something against. (OK, you are putting some sourced information in as well, so I'm not saying you're all bad, but... well, it's hardly surprising that people object in stronger and stronger terms when you unashamedly do things that you must know full well by now are not right for Misplaced Pages.) Anyway, goodnight for today, maybe we'll find ways of cooperating more fruitfully tomorrow.--] (]) 18:01, 10 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Why can't the article repeat verbatim what that law says?
- Because reliable sources have not connected the law to the subject of the article.--Kotniski (talk) 15:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Apart from the one which is quoted in the article as saying that the subject is "Polish-born". You know the source: it's the one you deleted. Varsovian (talk) 15:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- What are you talking about now? Where does that source connect that law to that person? And if it does (which it doesn't) then why not quote the source directly?--Kotniski (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- The source refers to Sawoniuk as "Polish-born" and he was born Polish because of the 1920 Polish citizenship law. His mother was Polish and that made him Polish because he didn't know who his father was, which may just explain why he described himself as being Polish! Varsovian (talk) 16:54, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know when you think he described himself as being Polish, but apparently the reason was to avoid being on the Nazi side when the war was lost. He is described as "Polish-born" because he was born within the borders of Poland. None of this has anything to do with any 1920 citizenship law. Or if it does, the sources don't make that connection, so nor do we.--Kotniski (talk) 17:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have a source to confirm your stance on why he described himself as Polish? I see you still can't (or perhaps don't want to) understand that being born in Poland does not make one Polish-born. Varsovian (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know when you think he described himself as being Polish, but apparently the reason was to avoid being on the Nazi side when the war was lost. He is described as "Polish-born" because he was born within the borders of Poland. None of this has anything to do with any 1920 citizenship law. Or if it does, the sources don't make that connection, so nor do we.--Kotniski (talk) 17:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- The source refers to Sawoniuk as "Polish-born" and he was born Polish because of the 1920 Polish citizenship law. His mother was Polish and that made him Polish because he didn't know who his father was, which may just explain why he described himself as being Polish! Varsovian (talk) 16:54, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- What are you talking about now? Where does that source connect that law to that person? And if it does (which it doesn't) then why not quote the source directly?--Kotniski (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Apart from the one which is quoted in the article as saying that the subject is "Polish-born". You know the source: it's the one you deleted. Varsovian (talk) 15:36, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Warning
You have now made your second accusation that I am editing in bad faith. Kindly refrain from doing and strike out your accusation on the WP:POLAND page or I will request that you are warned of DIGWUREN sanctions. Varsovian (talk) 17:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know what you mean. Kindly refrain from your obviously and consistently nationalistic-driven editing, which manifestly breaches all of Misplaced Pages's core policies. --Kotniski (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Do you feel that "your obviously and consistently nationalistic-driven editing" is in keeping with WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL?
- It's not mine, it's yours, but all right, I suppose those are two policies that it doesn't breach (the core policies I had in mind were NPOV, V, OR). --Kotniski (talk) 17:35, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Do you feel that describing another editor's editing as "obviously and consistently nationalistic-driven editing" is in keeping with WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL? If you have concerns with me breaking any WP policy, please file a report on me. I am trying to give you the chance to avoid me filing one on you. Varsovian (talk) 17:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Everyone can see what sort of editor you are. I'm not interested in filing reports, but you should still be ashamed of what you're doing. --Kotniski (talk) 17:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- What I'm doing? You mean putting sourced facts into an article? Or that I do not admit in my edit summaries that I am just making stuff up? Or that I'm not accusing other editors of bad faith editing? Varsovian (talk) 17:54, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- That you're putting unsourced facts into an article, or dishonestly citing sources which don't support what you're writing, or putting off-topic information into an article just to smear a particular nation that you seem to have something against. (OK, you are putting some sourced information in as well, so I'm not saying you're all bad, but... well, it's hardly surprising that people object in stronger and stronger terms when you unashamedly do things that you must know full well by now are not right for Misplaced Pages.) Anyway, goodnight for today, maybe we'll find ways of cooperating more fruitfully tomorrow.--Kotniski (talk) 18:01, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- What I'm doing? You mean putting sourced facts into an article? Or that I do not admit in my edit summaries that I am just making stuff up? Or that I'm not accusing other editors of bad faith editing? Varsovian (talk) 17:54, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Everyone can see what sort of editor you are. I'm not interested in filing reports, but you should still be ashamed of what you're doing. --Kotniski (talk) 17:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Do you feel that describing another editor's editing as "obviously and consistently nationalistic-driven editing" is in keeping with WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL? If you have concerns with me breaking any WP policy, please file a report on me. I am trying to give you the chance to avoid me filing one on you. Varsovian (talk) 17:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- It's not mine, it's yours, but all right, I suppose those are two policies that it doesn't breach (the core policies I had in mind were NPOV, V, OR). --Kotniski (talk) 17:35, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- Do you feel that "your obviously and consistently nationalistic-driven editing" is in keeping with WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL?