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| The last AfD's for this article saw heavy involvement from members of the ], hence I am bringing this back to AfD now for re-discussion. Essentially, the main problem is that it is documenting a ] ]. It is also using German sources, in which the meaning of the word in German does not necessarily match what the article states. There are also problems on ] as documented at ]. Moves to a neutral term (i.e. ]) has been rejected, and editors have used the article to write criticism of groups whom detractors refer to as Putinjugend. What can be said about this term is said - it is a pejorative neologism used as a slur to refer to a number of groups by a minute number of sources. Instead of moving to ] as was previously tried, and as documented at ], I am bringing this back to AfD, so it can be discussed yet again. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC) | The last AfD's for this article saw heavy involvement from members of the ], hence I am bringing this back to AfD now for re-discussion. Essentially, the main problem is that it is documenting a ] ]. It is also using German sources, in which the meaning of the word in German does not necessarily match what the article states. There are also problems on ] as documented at ]. Moves to a neutral term (i.e. ]) has been rejected, and editors have used the article to write criticism of groups whom detractors refer to as Putinjugend. What can be said about this term is said - it is a pejorative neologism used as a slur to refer to a number of groups by a minute number of sources. Instead of moving to ] as was previously tried, and as documented at ], I am bringing this back to AfD, so it can be discussed yet again. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Merge/redirect''' salvageable info and sources to ] and/or ]. "Putinjugend" is not a valid title—the word is a neologism not established in the English language. Not to mention the fact that this article can't possibly provide anything beyond the scope of "Nashi"; nor is the title ].—] • (]); June 25, 2010; 19:44 (UTC) | *'''Merge/redirect''' salvageable info and sources to ] and/or ]. "Putinjugend" is not a valid title—the word is a neologism not established in the English language. Not to mention the fact that this article can't possibly provide anything beyond the scope of "Nashi"; nor is the title ].—] • (]); June 25, 2010; 19:44 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Speedy keep''', as the nominator does not give any valid reasons for deletion. Article is very well referenced (''Find sources'' above gives many more), the concept is actively used and often described; not only in news but also in books and scholarly sources. I do not understand why ''one'' {{plainlink|url=http://www.eurozine.com/articles/2006-06-12-schmidu-de.html|name=German source}}, discussing the phenomenon in detail, is mentioned in the nomination - especially as even cursory reading of said source makes it clear that the article is about meaning of the Putinjugend described in the article. I also would like to remind the nominator that AfD's are closed based on arguments, not votes - and ] is not a reason for deletion. --] 07:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
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The last AfD's for this article saw heavy involvement from members of the WP:EEML, hence I am bringing this back to AfD now for re-discussion. Essentially, the main problem is that it is documenting a WP:FRINGE neologism. It is also using German sources, in which the meaning of the word in German does not necessarily match what the article states. There are also problems on WP:UNDUE as documented at Talk:Putinjugend#Walking_Together_listed_is_WP:UNDUE. Moves to a neutral term (i.e. Pro-Kremlin youth movement) has been rejected, and editors have used the article to write criticism of groups whom detractors refer to as Putinjugend. What can be said about this term is said - it is a pejorative neologism used as a slur to refer to a number of groups by a minute number of sources. Instead of moving to Pro-Kremlin youth movement as was previously tried, and as documented at Talk:Putinjugend#Moved_to_.22Pro-Kremlin_youth_movement.22, I am bringing this back to AfD, so it can be discussed yet again. Russavia 19:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect salvageable info and sources to Nashi (youth movement) and/or Pro-Kremlin youth movement. "Putinjugend" is not a valid title—the word is a neologism not established in the English language. Not to mention the fact that this article can't possibly provide anything beyond the scope of "Nashi"; nor is the title neutral.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 25, 2010; 19:44 (UTC)
- Speedy keep, as the nominator does not give any valid reasons for deletion. Article is very well referenced (Find sources above gives many more), the concept is actively used and often described; not only in news but also in books and scholarly sources. I do not understand why one German source, discussing the phenomenon in detail, is mentioned in the nomination - especially as even cursory reading of said source makes it clear that the article is about meaning of the Putinjugend described in the article. I also would like to remind the nominator that AfD's are closed based on arguments, not votes - and WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a reason for deletion. --Sander Säde 07:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)