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Arbitration motion regarding Speed of light

Original announcement

Could you find a less intelligible way to convey that piece of information. I'm sure if I went away and read all the documents I could eventually make sense of it. You must try harder if you want that job in the legislature drafting office :)--Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

It was complicated because the motion (and possibly the original remedy) expired before the announcement was made. Look at the timings of the case, the request for amendment, the motion, and the announcement, and you will see what I mean. Carcharoth (talk) 20:49, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

You're not kidding. I still haven't worked out if Brews Ohare can actually edit this article or not. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

He can; his topic ban expired towards the end of June. The effect of the recent amendment was to have the restrictions on Count Iblis, David Tombe, Likebox, and Hell in a Bucket against advocating for Brews lifted at the same time. Brews and David are both still under a restriction authorizing uninvolved admins to block them after warnings if they "repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any normal editorial process or any expected standards of behavior and decorum", and David is still topic banned. Steve Smith (talk) 21:08, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Hopefully it will work out for Brews.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:20, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

The motion was this. It refers to expiration of topic ban and restrictions upon posting on physics pages and talk namepages. However, it remains that any uninvolved editor on their own discretion can decide that I have “repeatedly or seriously failed to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any normal editorial process or any expected standards of behavior and decorum”, and following a warning can “impose sanctions”. No limitations upon the nature or duration of these sanctions is provided, no appeals process is identified, and just what constitutes "normal editorial process", "serious failure to adhere to the purpose of WP", and "standards of decorum" is up to the acting editor's solitary judgment. This situation prevails until 20 October, 2010. Brews ohare (talk) 05:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Likebox

User:Likebox is still blocked. He vented his anger after the advocacy restriction, which was a violation of that restriction and it was pointy behavior as well. Now, Likebox has left the project so he won't ask for himself to be unblocked. Instead, he has used his ban as an argument why Misplaced Pages sucks. I think he now contributes to Citizendium.

However, we do believe in Misplaced Pages, so if we are right and Likebox is wrong, he will eventually be back here. Likebox will see that the wiki articles on theoretical physics to which he made major contributions, such as on the Ising model, are far more visible than the Citizendium articles he is wasting his time on now.

So, if he comes back here (perhaps in a few years form now), it will likely be to improve some articles here, not to continue venting his anger. However, if he were to see that he is still blocked for something that is by then ancient history, he would have to raise that old issue before he can proceed. But knowing Likebox a bit (he's a bit hot headed), that won't be a good thing at all. It would likely trigger precisely that kind of behavior that we don't like to see here.

So, I'm of the opinion that it is better to unblock Likebox now, without having discussions with him about this issue. Count Iblis (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, that is not an opinion I share. At this point it isn't just what happened on their way out, it's how they went out. If they are willing to improve their behavior, and back off certain comments they made, sure, we can look to unblocking him. But the first move has to be his. SirFozzie (talk) 18:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

The matter is simply one of psychology. I'd say Likebox left infuriated, and if he is required to come hat in hand and plead for acceptance, he won't. SirFozzie thinks that's just fine, so be it. However, Likebox is a gifted individual and WP would be better off with his contributions. If he were encouraged to return by the simple act of dropping the block, WP would benefit. It isn't necessary that all involved feel that this ending suits them to a Tee. Everybody can take a deep breath and let the future evolve as it may, bygones are bygones. Brews ohare (talk) 05:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)