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| :: Your baseless accusations of intimidation against other editors violate half-a-dozen Misplaced Pages policies, starting with ]. If you have indeed read the TM ArbCom decision, then you should know, contrary to your earlier claim, that the discretionary sanctions do apply to you, and your claim of exemption is baseless. If you think that my editing violates in any way the spirit or letter of the TM ArbCom decision, you are free to raise the issue before ArbCom or AE. ] (]) 13:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC) | :: Your baseless accusations of intimidation against other editors violate half-a-dozen Misplaced Pages policies, starting with ]. If you have indeed read the TM ArbCom decision, then you should know, contrary to your earlier claim, that the discretionary sanctions do apply to you, and your claim of exemption is baseless. If you think that my editing violates in any way the spirit or letter of the TM ArbCom decision, you are free to raise the issue before ArbCom or AE. ] (]) 13:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
| ::: I am not sure what you want to accomplish here. I am calling this intimidation for a lack of better words. I am not going to raise anything to ArbCom or AE, not just for one interaction. Arbcom has already given you some good advices. Take it easy. ] (]) 15:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC) | ::: I am not sure what you want to accomplish here. I am calling this intimidation for a lack of better words. I am not going to raise anything to ArbCom or AE, not just for one interaction. Arbcom has already given you some good advices. Take it easy. ] (]) 15:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
| :I think I can shed some light on what Fladrif is trying to accomplish. He or she has proven to be a bully, plain and simple (a bully is one who tries to hurt others, in compensation for some psychological problem, such as lack of self-esteem or, worse, a diagnosable condition such as ]). In fact, as you obviously saw, the ArbCom sanctions he himself references to intimidate you singles '''him''' out as a violator deserving of sanctions; this clearly shows that he is incapable of seeing faults in himself, which is a primary sign of egoism. Further, he has a previous record of incivility and sanctions at WP. I applaud your assertive response. If you look at Fladrif's contributions, you will see that many, perhaps most of his editing at other articles is very intelligent and balanced. Why does he act so different at certain articles? I have no theory yet, just vague ideas. It is clear that he has a special problem with either the editors at this article or with TM and similar techniques (including ''Natural Stress Relief'', an article he singled out and attacked by managing its quick deletion). Whether or how that prompts him to act like a bully (something that would seem inconsistent with his evident intelligence) I have no idea. Actually, I came here to ask you something different: you just showed up recently, but you seem like an experienced WP editor. You must be aware of the 'no Sockpuppets' rule. So I'm a bit befuddled and was hoping you could clear up my confusion. Of course, you could just reply 'well, it's your confusion--I can't explain that', but I'm hoping you won't hide behind the anonymity that WP permits. I find such lack of candor disturbing. Perhaps that's because I'm the '''only''' editor I've seen in 9 years of editing who provides on his/her User page a detailed and honest background. I think anonymity has no advantages. I will watch here for your response, if any, on both issues. ] 01:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Krisanaprakornkit and his team studied only meditation practices that could be used in clinical settings. "Meditation as a part of religious or spiritual practice wasn't considered to be meditation therapy," he said. http://www.wellsphere.com/meditation-article/meditate-your-anxiety-away/369 Edith Sirius Lee (talk) 20:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
There were only two studies included in the review and only one of these two was about TM. See http://thediabeticnews.com/news/860.shtml . The only included study on TM seems to be http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6986134?dopt=Abstract . Edith Sirius Lee (talk) 19:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Considered for help User:JamesBWatson Edith Sirius Lee (alias IP 67.230.154) (talk) 00:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe that you are mistaken...
...about this. The discretionary sanctions adopted at ArbCom apply to any editor of the TMM Movement articles. Do not make the mistake of thinking that, as a "new" editor, or an old editor under a new name, you are exempt from the TM ArbCom decision. Fladrif (talk) 01:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Don't bother trying to intimidate me. I carefully read all these arbitration decisions before starting to edit. If anyone should take note of these decisions, its you. Edith Sirius Lee (talk) 01:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your baseless accusations of intimidation against other editors violate half-a-dozen Misplaced Pages policies, starting with WP:AGF. If you have indeed read the TM ArbCom decision, then you should know, contrary to your earlier claim, that the discretionary sanctions do apply to you, and your claim of exemption is baseless. If you think that my editing violates in any way the spirit or letter of the TM ArbCom decision, you are free to raise the issue before ArbCom or AE. Fladrif (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am not sure what you want to accomplish here. I am calling this intimidation for a lack of better words. I am not going to raise anything to ArbCom or AE, not just for one interaction. Arbcom has already given you some good advices. Take it easy. Edith Sirius Lee (talk) 15:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your baseless accusations of intimidation against other editors violate half-a-dozen Misplaced Pages policies, starting with WP:AGF. If you have indeed read the TM ArbCom decision, then you should know, contrary to your earlier claim, that the discretionary sanctions do apply to you, and your claim of exemption is baseless. If you think that my editing violates in any way the spirit or letter of the TM ArbCom decision, you are free to raise the issue before ArbCom or AE. Fladrif (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think I can shed some light on what Fladrif is trying to accomplish. He or she has proven to be a bully, plain and simple (a bully is one who tries to hurt others, in compensation for some psychological problem, such as lack of self-esteem or, worse, a diagnosable condition such as Borderline personality disorder). In fact, as you obviously saw, the ArbCom sanctions he himself references to intimidate you singles him out as a violator deserving of sanctions; this clearly shows that he is incapable of seeing faults in himself, which is a primary sign of egoism. Further, he has a previous record of incivility and sanctions at WP. I applaud your assertive response. If you look at Fladrif's contributions, you will see that many, perhaps most of his editing at other articles is very intelligent and balanced. Why does he act so different at certain articles? I have no theory yet, just vague ideas. It is clear that he has a special problem with either the editors at this article or with TM and similar techniques (including Natural Stress Relief, an article he singled out and attacked by managing its quick deletion). Whether or how that prompts him to act like a bully (something that would seem inconsistent with his evident intelligence) I have no idea. Actually, I came here to ask you something different: you just showed up recently, but you seem like an experienced WP editor. You must be aware of the 'no Sockpuppets' rule. So I'm a bit befuddled and was hoping you could clear up my confusion. Of course, you could just reply 'well, it's your confusion--I can't explain that', but I'm hoping you won't hide behind the anonymity that WP permits. I find such lack of candor disturbing. Perhaps that's because I'm the only editor I've seen in 9 years of editing who provides on his/her User page a detailed and honest background. I think anonymity has no advantages. I will watch here for your response, if any, on both issues. David Spector (talk) 01:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)