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Move request

There is a move request in process Tom Corbett, Space Cadet → Tom Corbett - see Talk:Tom Corbett, Space Cadet. -- Beardo 01:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Photo

The recent photo that was added referencing USASearch.gov is not a free public domain image of the US Government. I clicked on the link provided and got to this page. The notice at the top clearly states "The images you find in USA.gov’s Image Search results may be protected by copyright. If you would like to use any images you find through USA.gov’s Image Search, we advise you to contact the site owner for permission." Indeed, the page is a re-direct to the Attorney Generals website TastyPoutine 00:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Reverted Therealgrannymiller edit

I removed accusations that use non reliable blogs for citation.Boromir123 (talk) 19:44, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

"Jobs are there" controversy

I initially deleted one unsources assertion, but I'm thinking the whole section should go. I'm not sure the statement he made rises to the level of a bio entry... in the absence of history proving it some kind of defining moment in his life (which could theoretically happen, but hasn't yet). I'm sure he's said a lot of things, and this is one of them, but it seems to be given undue weight in his bio. John2510 (talk) 22:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I wound up abbreviating it and rolling it into the gubernatorial election section. Unless the issue flares up and is considered decisive, it should probably be deleted at some point. John2510 (talk) 23:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

It shouldn't be deleted it caused an uproar. He made the remark and it came back to bite him. If he is your candidate, fine. But don't try to sugar coat him or what he said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.182.183.110 (talk) 01:45, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine with sticking with what he said... but let's do that. Even so, it needs to be given due weight in the context of his personal bio. and not to violate wp:undue. I'm not trying to delete or sugar coat it... just trying to keep it accurate and consistent with wp:npov. The cited source references "some" unemployed... not "the" unemployed, and that's what should be in the article. John2510 (talk) 01:55, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree with John2510. Section was written in a biased manner. I tried to streamline it and edit "the unemployed" statement. Should be written in a neutral manner.Boromir123 (talk) 03:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm returning the "the" to "some" to conform to source, and removing the campaign ad as a source. I'm not seeing anywhere, even in the ad, where he said, “People don’t want to come back to work, while they still have unemployment. The jobs are there.” If it can be found in a non-campaign-ad source, I'm good with putting it back. John2510 (talk) 19:24, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/98157544.html http://articles.mcall.com/2010-07-09/news/mc-pennsylvania-corbett-unemployment-20100709-12_1_unemployment-rate-tom-corbett-business-owners Here they are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.235.55.72 (talk) 23:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

The quote (“People don’t want to come back to work, while they still have unemployment. The jobs are there.”) doesn't appear in either of those sources. John2510 (talk) 19:46, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

It is in the clip from a nws broadcast that you keep insist gets deleted, so you can hide it was said. http://kdka.com/politics/Onorato.Corbett.unemployment.2.1802758.html

No. In point of fact, it's not. Find a quote from that article, and use the article as a source (versus a campaign ad) it it will be properly sourced John2510 (talk) 03:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It is sourced. KDKA and philly.com are reputable sources. I deleted the youtube link.

KDKA didn't say what you had in the previous edit. BTW... Your change here was apprarently nothing but vandalism, and was properly reverted. John2510 (talk) 19:50, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I cut and pasted what was in the links, plus I have MP3s of the interview when he said it. You work for his campaign there is no hiding that, or it wouldn't be an issue for you to keep changing it. Plus the audio is right in the KDKA articile in the video link. It IS AN EXACT QUOTE.

It wasn't a correct quote, but you apparently have issues with understanding and writing in English (e.g., "You work for his campaign there is no hiding that" is two sentences). I don't work for the campaign. I don't even live in PA. Would you care to offer a justification for vandalizing the poll results on the election page? John2510 (talk) 00:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I didn't, you fucking piece of garbage. I hope you get shot in the face.

Wow. I've reported this to the appropriate authorities. IP addresses are easily traced, and ISP's record the users assigned an IP address at a given time. This came from a Verizon IP address in the Pittsburgh area. They won't have any trouble locating him. John2510 (talk) 05:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

In terms of Misplaced Pages's response, admins responded quickly appropriately: both articles have been protected and his IP has been blocked. They also restored the article to the previous version where the paragraph in question was deleted. John2510 (talk)

In fairness, I've restored this paragraph to the previous version. I think it has an appropriate level of detail for wp:blp. If people are curious and want to know more about it, they can follow the references. I suspect that after the election it should be removed from the bio completely... but that question can be addressed at the time. John2510 (talk) 13:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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