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Joan of Arc

Hi, what does this article need to meet "good article" standards? If stability is an issue, then how long would an article need to remain stable? Regards, Durova 16:20, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Venus and Adonis (opera)

Hey, I noticed you decided VA wasn't up to GA standards because it didn't have references. I had mistakenly put my reference under "See also". I completely understand if it still isn't up to snuff, I was just wondering if you would reconsider in light of that. Also, sometimes recordings have articles by scholars, so I'm not sure if those would count as references or not. Cheers, Makemi 17:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article pendatang asing, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Dewan Rakyat, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Gurubrahma 12:17, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Did you know... Lillian Too

Thanks for your comments. I'm new to this so I wasn't sure what to do. But someone wrote me a note warning me that the image would be deleted so I decided to write for permission. In future, if I want to add a fair use rationale, how do I do it? And what do I select from the Licensing drop-down menu? There doesn't seem to be anything suitable there to use for fair use. Thanks. -- S Masters 15:22, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Please block user 62.49.81.146. He vandalized Münster School of Business Administration and Economics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lunalona (talk • contribs) .

Xchrisblackx

That anon removing Xchrisblackx may have been him. Xchrisblackx (signs as Dr. Mahongany) posted a note to his own talk page announcing his withdrawal. NoSeptember 16:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

MGS PSP

I was wondering if there is any way i can retrieve the information that was in the Metal Gear Solid (PSP) article? I would like it for my own personal use, had I known that there was going to be a prompt oligarchical deletion I would have backed it up. I'm getting together resources for my soon to be running videogame wiki and would like the information. Is it anywhere?Solidusspriggan

Article rating, content fairs

See Misplaced Pages talk:Article rating for some recent thoughts on article rating & improvement. +sj + 19:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I like WP:GA as a test case, though I vaguely preferred the title of Misplaced Pages:Half-decent articles ;-) We should work on defining how the meta-analysis of GA nominations proceeds. I'm content with people updating the WP:GA list directly, but they should probably also list their new entries on a WP:GAC discussion/candidacy page, to make it easy for others to see what is new and good -- and to veto if they don't like it. +sj +

Mark Busse Page Deletion

http://en.wikipedia.org/Mark_Busse

Mark Busse’s qualifications have been questioned by means of the authenticity of his “Publications,” he is in fact in accordance with three of the stated criterion:

1. "Painters, sculptors, architects, engineers, and other professionals whose work is recognized as exceptional and likely to become a part of the enduring historical record of that field." Mark’s design firm is top notch on a worldwide scale, his clients blanket the globe and stand by his product. Not only is he an internationally known Communication Designer (with awards to back him in print, interface design, and the current highly acclaimed blog.industrialbrand.com), he is also a valued member of the Vancouver art scene, having sold paintings locally and been recognized as a legitimate critic in regards to his degree in Fine Art.

2. "Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events." Mark has been actively involved in Canstruction Vancouver in support of the Food Bank since its inaugural year, he is a credited script editor on at least three indie/student films (A Beginning, Eating Crow, and Mega-force), and devotes innumerable amounts of time to the success of the non-profit Canadian Society of Graphic Designers.

3. "Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more." A collaborative effort from Mark and Ben from IBC Published Fall 2005 in Graphic Exchange “Why should you have a blog?” in circulation throughout Canada to a lot more than 5 000 individuals. Mark’s interviews of Santa Monica’s Mike Goedecke of “Belief” and Toronto’s “Ze Frank” appear as padding on the IBC blog, but are anything but blog entries. These articles are for the betterment of the creative mind; they dive deeply into strategy, philosophy, and process, where these individuals’ mantras are made accessible to the general public. It is true that some of his articles appear on sites such as if.pfsk and blog.industrialbrand.com, but the fact that they may fall into the category of blog entry is only remotely valid, since the traffic and dedicated readers of these sites far surpass that of most published writers, as does the quality and content of the articles Mark writes.

In accompaniment to the above stated, Mark is on the forefront of Canadian Communication Design; he is a mentor to up and coming designers, he is an instructor at Vancouver Film School, and he is a keystone in the city of Vancouver though charitable contributions and the network of greatness he represents. I can see how some find it reasonable to consider Mark for deletion; however, he represents a new breed of writer/artist. His contributions may seem miniscule to those who are not active enthusiasts of digital culture, branding, design; this is his legacy and an understanding how influential he is may not surface until more people gain insight into his life.

Mark Busse’s Misplaced Pages page sits in a very infantile stage, it only shows crumbs of his story and appears quite vain. Revisions are needed, but it should definitely not be discarded.

toddsmithdesign 13:20, 9 February 2006

Good Article Self-Nominations

I noticed that you nominated several articles as good. I just wanted you to take notice that I failed all but one of them (Democratic Action Party). I know you have have over 13,000 edits and are a administrator and so you should know better than to flood the self-nominations page with articles that clearly do not qualify for the status. You added an article you had created just twenty minutes prior. Now, I can understand if you put up a somewhat good article on the nominations page and it gets rejected, but many of your pages featured poor biographies or dictionary definitions of Malay terms. I can't express enough the aggravation going through all those meaningless nominations caused.

In the future, I highly suggest that you exercise better judgement when nominating an article for good article status. If you flood the self-nominations page again with articles that are clearly unworthy of the distinction, I will simply delete all your nominations (good or not) without commenting on each individual article. joturner 23:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Frank Alexander

I've noticed you've deleted the article 'Frank Alexander'. I didn't actually pay much attention to the article; but since User:Malber has felt into the category of purposed defamation, by pointing out an user as a liar, I decided to clean up. Nils Gessinger is a jazz player (www.nilsgessinger.de). He is a famous jazz player in Germany and in São Paulo, Brazil where I live. I'm into jazz therefore I have heard of him. In regards to "Pacifier", someone mispelled it. The right band is "Pacific", a NZ band, the song is Bullitproof, not Bulletproof (of Pacifier) - link http://www.randkmusicmix.com/Artists_P.htm (line 16). I do understand the article doesn't fall into the criteria notability. But I also feel some people have been passing bad judgements on some user or on the artist. Plus, I do not agree with the behaviour of User: Malber on http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Frank_Alexander, passage "Stating the obvious is not a personal attack. Here's a suggesion: perhaps Frank Alexander should spend less time on self promotion and pointing himself out as Ashton Kutcher's friend, and more time on doing something that is actually notable. Then he might actually become famous". I believe it none of our business, but it's my opinion. Finally. I got this TalkPage link through an Orkut community. Thoughtfully, Márcio201.1.1.215 09:04, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

But that's not defamation. It was perhaps a snide remark, but by creating a vanity article (you generally shouldn't start your own biography) you become subject to all sorts of interpretations. Elle _{vécut heureuse} (Be eudaimonic!) 09:22, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

You don't understand. He didn't write his own article. Actually user> peterbradley did it. Please, reply to this subject if you are totally aware of the discussion.

Stresss

Johnleemk stressed out? Anything I can I do? --FloNight 12:45, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Your apology seems sincere. That is usually helpful. Plus, wasn't this really the straw that broke the camel's back. Lots of high tension around this place for weeks. A regular soap opera! During the DFA discussion, Radiant seemed frustrated by the inaction. I think your summary was just part of the problem. Hopefully Radiant is de-stressing and will be back soon. FloNight 13:13, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

User:Pietras1988 insults

I ask you for reaction to this user behaviour. This is not the first time he insults people on en:Wiki, I think a 24h block for cooling will teach him a lesson. A.J. 14:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Proofs:

• - in Polish they were right insulting yoy becoause you talk like 0.

Wouldn't it be better to take it to WP:RFC instead? Outright blocks are supposed to be only for clear-cut vandals IIRC. — Kimchi.sg | Talk 14:58, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Whidden Hall afd

Are you sure there was a genuine lack of consensus on this issue? I got the impression that the appearance of lack of consensus was due to ballot stuffing. — ciphergoth

Hi...I was just about to ask the same thing. Counting the votes (and ignoring unsigned ballot stuffing) I get 10 deletes to 4 keeps, which seems like a delete consensus to me. Is there a WP:DRV process for AfD's that are contentiously closed in favour of "keep"? Zunaid 15:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

• Fair enough: let me rephrase. Taking into account the opinions and motivations from users with long edit histories and discounting those views from unregistered users, I find that a consensus to delete had been reached and feel that the AfD was incorrectly closed. I feel that in the least you could re-list immediately and include the arguments of the current debate in its entirety. Zunaid 16:06, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I, too, feel this debate was closed prematurely, but for now will assume good faith and try to get along.

I had a suggestion for how to resolve it that I had intended to place in the debate but have now put on the article's talk page if you're interested in looking at it. Daniel Case 19:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I want some consensus; to do so unilaterally in the wake of a contentious deletion vote would not be civil IMO. Also, I have absolutely no familiarity with McMaster and thus couldn't even begin to expand the article in the proper direction. I don't intend to take any action for a few days (especially since I have other fish to fry here). Daniel Case 19:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Not to pile on, but I agree with the above comments - the debate was closed too soon IMO (I didn't even see it was posted until it had been closed). Registered users with a history of contributions seemed inclined to delete, and the premature closing prevented any true consensus from developing. TMS63112 19:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

User_talk:Radiant!#On_the_actual_reasons_for_leaving

Props to you for this: but I would not place all or most of the blame at your feet. Everyone's doing the best they can. Thanks for your efforts on behalf of the encyclopedia. ++Lar: t/c 17:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

His Site

...continues

It's not a proposal. This is how Misplaced Pages has been run since its inception; if anything, the process is a bit fairer now, since last time we had two dictators (Jimbo and Larry Sanger) whereas now the Board can step in and tell Jimbo to shut it if he really blows it (an unlikely occurrence). And in case you forgot, somebody has to pay for the servers, manage the accounts, buy new servers, maintain them, talk to the media with some authority (honestly, can you imagine an ordinary Wikipedian spreading his personal idea of what Misplaced Pages should be among the media?), etc. You tell me how the wiki can do all this. Misplaced Pages has been run as an autocracy since its founding. So far, there is nothing to indicate this should be changed except the paranoia of some people who can't accept a benevolent dictatorship (but have zero problems whatsoever with private organisations and businesses that, just incidentally, happen to have one CEO/Chairman of the Board/whatever). Johnleemk | Talk 18:12, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

You need to read before writing, friend.

• The "someone" who pays for the servers isn't necessarily Jimbo - he is continually appealing for donations from people like me. He just seeded them, as you say.
• if people can volunteer to add content to his project, I dare say people can volunteer to maintain servers. they certainly volunteer unhesitatingly to be admins so they can behave like Stanford prison warders, "reverting vandalism" and block people they don't like.
• Why does Misplaced Pages need to talk to the media at all?
• in no way, in any case, does any of this imply the need for autocratic control of content of management of the site. Jimbo could quite easily agree to be treated like any other user. Indeed, he has, on occasion, denied being a GodKing. Are you not putting words into his mouth? ElectricRay 18:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

So what do you plan to do? Personally submit your check to a hardware manufacturer, personally take possession of the server, and then...? Furthermore, you are oversimplifying Misplaced Pages's hardware. As someone familiar with internet servers, I can tell you that for maximum efficiency, the servers need to be as close together as possible (so as to reduce delays when transmitting information between master and slave database servers, etc.). How will we maintain our servers if we have one in Kuala Lumpur, one in Brisbane, one in Timbuktu, one in Chicago, and so on? Again, you tell me. Also, in case you forgot, Misplaced Pages is among the most visited websites in the world. We are bound to get queries from the media, and if we don't respond, they can very well just grab something random from our talk pages and use it to totally misrepresent our views (not that they don't already do this with some of Jimbo's or the Board's statements). Regardless of what we call him, Jimbo has very real authority over this website. If he preferred to, he could just phone the guys at the Foundation server farm in Florida and tell them to shut down the servers. He runs this website. He owns the hardware that runs it. If you won't respect his authority and think you can run off with this great anarchist experiment in running a website, then more power to you. But don't bring Misplaced Pages into this. We're here to write an encyclopedia, not be a democracy or bureaucracy (see WP:NOT). Johnleemk | Talk 18:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Walk away. And I don't think I'll be the only one. Indeed, if the above item is anything to go by, you seem to have driven out some perfectly good editors and admins by yourself already. Better get writing your encyclopaedia! ElectricRay 19:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your civility. ^_^ Johnleemk | Talk 19:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)