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User:Syncategoremata

Just to let you know that I've replied to your message on my talk page. My apologies for the delay in replying but I'm on holiday right now, and not supposed to be editing Misplaced Pages. But I obviously can't stay away from here.

All best wishes. –Syncategoremata (talk) 22:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Gracias

Thanks for your message. May I give you an advice on how to edit in cases like these? Always try to add a comment, however brief, of what you edit and/or why you edit it. In this case, for example, something like "out of scope", "not a university at is time of founding" or "see for that List of oldest madrasahs in continuous operation" would do. Saludos Gun Powder Ma (talk) 18:31, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Physics is not one of my strengths, although it takes no Albert to recognize the usual tendentiousness. I believe Syncat or Athenean who are both interested very much in astronomy may be more competent to take a closer look. Saludos Gun Powder Ma (talk) 09:33, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok,Gun,thanks for your advice.I have already inform Syncategoremata about this article.Saludos y buena suerte!!--Knight1993 (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Una cosa más. In cases such as these, you may save time and effort by 1. posting only once a detailed explanation of your edit on some talk page like you did, and 2. then making a full text search in Misplaced Pages for further instances of that particular claim and 3. remove all of them by linking in the edit summary to 1. This is what I call working horizontally, and it is the most efficient method in dealing with the well-known multiplication method of the said user. Saludos ;-) Gun Powder Ma (talk) 20:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I think that he has taken some time off is both good for him and good for Misplaced Pages. You can remove boldly the stuff and replace it with what I assembled at madrasa and Ijazah. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 16:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Invitation to discussion

Hello, you are invited to take part in the following discussion on this topic. The discussion is about general ways to improve Misplaced Pages in terms of verfifiability of contents. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 20:49, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

User:Dbachmann might be interested in a crackdown; maybe Elonka or Durova or Jehochman might, they went after a guy who did pseudohistory on medieval stuff. WP:FTN also may work. In any case, you'll have to talk to Jagged or revert his edits to see what he does, ie, if he backs down or not. Or you could pack all these articles off to WP:AFD if they are based on a nonsensical basis and it isn't worthy of a topic. What articles are you referring to by the way?

See here and here. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 13:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

"citation needed" tag

Hi there.

I noticed that you have added a {{citation needed}} tag to the Perspective (graphical) article, but there is already a citation just where you added it. Do you think there is some problem with that reference or do you just think the claim needs a second reference? Let me know if you want any help with this.

All the best. —Syncategoremata (talk) 22:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

If you are worried about the citation and whether it supports the claim or not, you can use the template {{verify source}} ({{Vn}} for short). See the guidelines on that template's page to see some recommendations on how to deal with this sort of situation.

By the way, if I put something on your talk page, you can reply to me here, as I always watch pages that I have edited. If you do reply here and think that I have missed your reply, you might then add a note on my talk page to point me here. It's usually better to keep the conversation on a single page, just to make it easier for us to follow.

All the best. —Syncategoremata (talk) 16:45, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

And yes, I'll have a look at the Book of Optics page as soon as I can. I have all the material here to check the page, but I'm a bit caught up in other things right now. —Syncategoremata (talk) 16:46, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help,I´ll do that from now on.All the best--Knight1993 (talk) 22:30, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Spaces following punctuation

Hi Knight, I noticed your edits at Cubic function. Good edit, but I had to add spaces following your punctuation (periods, comma's, ...), as is customary. Could you please keep this in mind when editing? Thanks and cheers - DVdm (talk) 06:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Just to second this Knight: I've just done a quick tidy-up on your edits at History of the steam engine: your space key does seem to be scared of punctuation. The additions look good by the way (though I've not looked at them in any detail.) Many thanks for your contributions here.

All the best. –Syncategoremata (talk) 09:34, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Formatting of Citations

Hi Knight1993,

I see that you are relatively new to wikipedia and working to improve the Crop Rotation article. Thanks for your contribution, and keep up the good work.

I should point out, however, that your use of citation in that article is a problem. You added a citation for "Technology in the Middle Ages History of Technology", but this is not a complete or verifiable citation. Please read Misplaced Pages:Citing sources for how to construct citations that are complete and verifiable, an important concern as other editors need to be able to locate the source you have cited. If you have questions, I may be able to help. Just leave a note on my talk page.

Dialectric (talk) 20:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

RFC discussion of User:Jagged 85

A request for comments has been filed concerning the conduct of Jagged 85 (talk · contribs). You are invited to comment on the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Jagged 85. -- Syncategoremata (talk) 17:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Request to use proper spacing - 3rd and 4th request

Is there a reason why you persistently refuse to put spaces after your punctuation? This is very annoying. I have reverted your edit to Speed of light. Please retry with proper spacing. Thank you. DVdm (talk) 22:31, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I have reverted your edit on my talk page. Please reply here, as I requested on top of my talk page - and please use proper spacing. Thank you. DVdm (talk) 16:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Impetus theory

I've got impetus theory on my list of things to look at. Last time I checked the Islamic contributions weren't completely over-stated (especially after Jagged's last round of corrections following my whine on his talk page). The impetus theory article is a mess but that's not necessarily an issue so much of accuracy as of bad writing. The other issue is that there are various bits and pieces of conflicting information on a great number of pages (as usual) so it would take a bit to track them all down and sort through them.

If there are any particular claims you are worried about, let me know, as I may well have the relevant sources to hand here to check them.

All the best. –Syncategoremata (talk) 10:06, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Well,the theory of impetus article is a mess,as you say.But the article that really bothers me is the Inertia article.I think the problems they have are similar.If you could check the problematic statements in those articles,it would be great.I have already spotted one:the article says al-Biruni was the first to state that acceleration is connected with non-uniform motion,but the source never say that he was thefirst.Maybe that idea was much older.There are many firsts in the islamic world section.And maybe even worse things.Thanks for all your help.All the best--Knight1993 (talk) 16:41, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the inertia article recently: I'll do so this weekend. The exact priority of discoveries in this area is disputed, as far as I recall from when I last read about this, so it's not impossible that Biruni should have the priority; I'll certainly check though. The main problem with these articles is that they are written from a "presentist" viewpoint and tend to use anachronistic terms like "force" and "mass", when those concepts are the result of much later theoretical insight and thus inappropriate for describing what these earlier figures thought, whatever that was.

All the best. –Syncategoremata (talk) 18:28, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

That would be cool,Syncategoremata.Thanks again.--Knight1993 (talk) 21:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Proper spacing - 5th request

Please stop. I have reverted your edit on Speed of light. Again. Note that you are behaving disruptive. Please use proper spacing in combination with punctuation. Thank you. DVdm (talk) 22:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Ontological argument

Many thanks for checking through the material on Avicenna's 'ontological argument'. I really ought to know that material better, so the references you found are very useful for me, as well as having improved the article.
All the best. –Syncategoremata (talk) 10:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Well thanks, Syncategoremata. The Avicenna section was, in my opinion, unfair, because it presented a minority view as a majority view. It gave Avicenna more importance than Anselm himself, who really deserves the credit for making the first ontological argument. If you want to improve it or correct any mistake, go ahead!--Knight1993 (talk) 11:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Tags

That may well be the case or not about that particular editor.. but it seems many statements are sourced in those two articles. He is not the only editor who wrote the article. So this is guilt by association for other editors who added and improved that article. So in this case, it is better to assume good faith and put a fact tag for sentences that you think contain weasel words and etc. In other words please do not just tag it without giving detailed reasons on the statements that you are incorrect. And then instead, it would be better if you took the time and effort to go through the article and put a citation tag for weasel words and sentences that need sourcing. Else many other articles could have been touched by possible problematic editors and that is not enough reason to validate a fact tag. Since your intention is good, I believe for the good of Misplaced Pages it is better for you to take the time and read the article. Then get rid of any weasel, wrong and unsourced statements as well OR and synthesis and etc. Thank you.--Pahlavannariman (talk) 17:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Siege of Tyre 1187.jpg

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Banu musa

Your going too fast for me at Banu Musa they did build the things but they were not "inventions" I think we could leave the "stuff" in but make it clear that they are based on earlier models. thanks J8079s (talk) 17:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

context

Classical Mechanics et al: It is the context that is lost in a jagged way the Antique science was well established (as the article says)the "medieval science" that that we have on wikipedia was not new . Rāshid, Rushdī; Morelon, Régis (1996). Encyclopedia of the history of Arabic science. Routledge. p. 274. ISBN 9780415124119. http://books.google.com/books?id=cPGRYLlwbrEC&pg=PR3. Retrieved 15 June 2010. This is a good source if kept in context. I hope you can connect to the preview at google books.There is a great deal in it that could be added. You,re doing a great job.J8079s (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Eccentric vs. elliptical orbits

Hi,

I understand your question, but the notion that the planetary orbits were eccentric circles goes back before Ptolemy to the time of Hipparchus (or earlier).

• Here's a nice illustration of an eccentric circular orbit for the Sun, with the Earth at the center.
• Here's an eccentric circular orbit with the Earth at the center and a planet going around on an epicycle,
• And here's Kepler's diagram of a whole bunch of nested eccentric circular orbits with the Sun at the center following Copernicus's model.

To oversimplify, Kepler just transformed Copernicus's eccentric circles into eccentric ellipses. Hope this explains it a little. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 02:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Your edit to Madrasah

I think you're going in the right direction on your edits there, but the sources you're using are exceptionally weak. Although Cambridge University Press is a premier publisher, a book titled "Ernest Gellner and Contemporary Social Thought" does not seem like the best source on science in the Madrasahs. The article cites an essay by Harvard Historian of science, A. I. Sabra on "Situating Arabic Science" that is much more on target. I also like the works of Frankfurt Historian of astronomy, David King.

Finally, I wouldn't be so deprecating about Ptolemaic astronomy. It's really quite accurate, although it's cosmology and physics are both wrong. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 04:28, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

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Science in the Middle Ages

Hello. You are invited to take part in the discussion on Science in the Middle Ages. The question is should we keep or remove the section on the Islamic world. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 08:25, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

You are invited to participate in the vote at Talk:Science in the Middle Ages#Ballot box as an attempt to establish a consensus. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 20:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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January 2011

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates or other materials from Misplaced Pages, you may be blocked from editing. No one is saying you have to like Muslims (though having respect for all people is generally a good idea) but repeatedly attempting to censor the contributions of the Islamic world from Misplaced Pages is a great way to get yourself in trouble. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:47, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate your willingness to discuss the problem. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Montevideo, Galicia

Hi Knight1993, I was curious so I looked and it was the Yobot who did it!! . Well, since you are interested in philosophy, can you please do a favour to José Enrique Rodó? Somebody seems to have corrected some statements that may or may not be precise, but has left the article in a mess. I could correct the grammar myself, but I am not knowledgeable enough on Rodó to know what is best to state. Thank you. Hoverfish Talk 20:42, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your good wishes, Knight. Yes, I'm from Athens, Greece and came to Montevideo last April and I find many aspects of the city and the people very interesting. I wish you success in your plans! Hoverfish Talk 00:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

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Imperio Mongol

Primero que nada decirte que me parece una falta de respeto la manera en con la cual me escribiste en mis página de discusión, pero no importa. Segundo, tengo buenas razones para revertir tu edición, ya que la referencia que vos decís del artículo es incorrecta. Acá te dejo la referencia que hay en el propio artículo sobre el Imperio Mongol: Finlay, Pilgrim Art, p. 151. En la misma dice claramente que abarcaba el 22% de la superficie total de la Tierra, lo que corresponde a 34 millones de kilómetros cuadrados y no de 24 millones como dice la lista. Un saludo. MauriManya (talk) 02:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Science in the Middle Ages: Vote and scope

Hi. Check out Talk:Science in the Middle Ages#On vote Gun Powder Ma (talk) 01:33, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I made the move in the spirit of WP:Bold. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 23:04, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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Jagged 85 cleanup: article stubbing

Hello. You are invited to take part in this vote concerning the clean-up effort in connectuion with Jagged 85's RFC/U. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 11:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)