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| :::Don't know about your living environment, but slanging is very much offensive in my culture. If he didn't tell me to put that note there than why he didn't replace it by himself. I used template for better readability because that page had aggregated with thousands of words, if you had any problem with that, than you could just tell me to remove the template and to relocate the note, what was the need of this argument? and with whom i become rude? for my conversation with Laura i apologized to her and believe me there is no such thing that i don't like you, i don't have such a little heart. Please don't call me racist, these things are far behind to racism. I'm not making any rule and don't want any sunshine; i didn't know slanging is the part of conversation on Misplaced Pages (at least i didn't experience it before you), i'll confirm with any senior wikipedian about it. I still purpose a hand of friendship, i'm here on Misplaced Pages to serve the community not to fall in such conflicts and arguments. I take your threat and will never interrupt your and others' work on Netball article (which i actually wasn't doing at all, if Racepacket didn't ask me to place a note i'd never go there). I'm again saying Misplaced Pages is a community which serves the world and we should stay away from this type of arguments. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:14, 21 March 2011 (UTC) | :::Don't know about your living environment, but slanging is very much offensive in my culture. If he didn't tell me to put that note there than why he didn't replace it by himself. I used template for better readability because that page had aggregated with thousands of words, if you had any problem with that, than you could just tell me to remove the template and to relocate the note, what was the need of this argument? and with whom i become rude? for my conversation with Laura i apologized to her and believe me there is no such thing that i don't like you, i don't have such a little heart. Please don't call me racist, these things are far behind to racism. I'm not making any rule and don't want any sunshine; i didn't know slanging is the part of conversation on Misplaced Pages (at least i didn't experience it before you), i'll confirm with any senior wikipedian about it. I still purpose a hand of friendship, i'm here on Misplaced Pages to serve the community not to fall in such conflicts and arguments. I take your threat and will never interrupt your and others' work on Netball article (which i actually wasn't doing at all, if Racepacket didn't ask me to place a note i'd never go there). I'm again saying Misplaced Pages is a community which serves the world and we should stay away from this type of arguments. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:14, 21 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
| :Right as a token I shall go and withdraw my complaint about you. Secondly I don't go looking for trouble, you started accusing me because infairness you don't understand the western culture of slang etc. I suggest that you don't take it too heart but not everything or everyone you deal with is going to be how you like it. Nor do we understand/am aware of what is and is not offensive to you. If someone uses slang they are not being offensive although they might be. The trick is not to over react. There is no rule on wiki against slang words on talk page, but there are rules about not writing in English. So since slang would be English you would have to lump it. Thirdly I don't see why i have to justify myself when you were given specific instructions. From my dealings with you, you and me had a bit of needle and when you did the notice it seemed very much attacking towards me. I over reacted I understand you now. Sorry. Fourthly you are more than welcome to do GA and edit netball. Just don't go through and use every MOS thing cause you can implment it and its tedious. If you want to do GA reviews then ask me or racepack and we'll let you do one and then jump in if we feel your going OTT with it/or not going far enough. :) ] (]) 21:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC) | :Right as a token I shall go and withdraw my complaint about you. Secondly I don't go looking for trouble, you started accusing me because infairness you don't understand the western culture of slang etc. I suggest that you don't take it too heart but not everything or everyone you deal with is going to be how you like it. Nor do we understand/am aware of what is and is not offensive to you. If someone uses slang they are not being offensive although they might be. The trick is not to over react. There is no rule on wiki against slang words on talk page, but there are rules about not writing in English. So since slang would be English you would have to lump it. Thirdly I don't see why i have to justify myself when you were given specific instructions. From my dealings with you, you and me had a bit of needle and when you did the notice it seemed very much attacking towards me. I over reacted I understand you now. Sorry. Fourthly you are more than welcome to do GA and edit netball. Just don't go through and use every MOS thing cause you can implment it and its tedious. If you want to do GA reviews then ask me or racepack and we'll let you do one and then jump in if we feel your going OTT with it/or not going far enough. :) ] (]) 21:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
| Bill, I am sorry that you have experienced this. You can read KnowIG's last comment as an appology and move forward or you can leave a complaint at ] where administrators take actions against editors that use abusive slurs. It is up to you, but I doubt that KnowIG will repeat such conduct in the future. As you can see from he was blocked indefinitely on February 22, but was allowed back on March 1 on the condition that if he ever got into a disagreement, he would "just walk away." So, it is up to you to accept his appology or leave a note on WP:ANI, which will result in his permanent block. ] (]) 22:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
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Netball reprise
After I offered to jump in on the GA review, User:KnowIG posted a comprehensive review before I could post my concerns. He subsequently became emersed in editing the article himself. I have posted a comment on the GA1 page suggesting that I be the one to close out the review, although I will defer to you if you are still interested. Apparently, we have now developed a nomenclature problem. The article says that in 1968, "women's basketball" ceased to be an accepted term for "netball." In fact, New Zealand had a women's basketball team compete in the 2008 Summer Olympics. Its victory against the Mali team drew favorable press attention. However, the nominator insists that any suggestion or comment that I make using the phrase "women's basketball" be refractored as ambiguous or intended to be read as "netball." What is your preference, as the ball is in your court? Racepacket (talk) 03:05, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not getting why this nomenclature is even an issue because after 1968 (or more precisely 1970) "Women's Basketball" and "Netball" are two completely different terms, and i guess its now globally accepted, whether it is U.S., U.K., Australia or South Asia. What's the point of ambiguity, anyone who's advocating that using both "Women's Basketball" and "Netball" together is generating some kind of ambiguity than they should provide some valid proof, the proof which should mention that still in Commonwealth Nations term Women's Basketball is treated as Netball. For me you're the only reviewer of the article if User:KnowIG doing your job, than it is his choice. I think it would be better if you do it by your own way. If you need any of my assistance than i'd be pleased to help you. Tell me if you need any help. Bill william compton 11:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- I could use a bit of help. Perhaps you could place a paragraph on the Netball/GA1 page under the "GA procedures" heading indicating that you are designating me, unless you want to do it yourself. I am very tollerant of people disagreeing with me, of using typographical errors in communicating with me, or even using British spelling and vocabulary. However, I have never before seen a Misplaced Pages editor try to avoid difficult quesitons by changing the subject to ask why I am using American spellings or wiki-mark-up language to communicate with her. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 11:25, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- I'll do it now, i thought it was clear to all that you would be the only reviewer of the article. Racepacket, this is the same problem i was facing with her, she was just trumpeting that she couldn't understand me, i'm less communicative, she's unable to understand mine language, i'm Indian, etc. It was the first time that somebody blamed my language as obstacle for comprehensive communication and KnowIG supported her because he's British, well it doesn't matter to me now. Perhaps my note will clear some sort of misunderstanding about you position in the procedure of this article review. Bill william compton 12:35, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- Now why would I do that. Racepackets American and so is Laura and Laura also lives in Aus. The only one being racist is you Bill. And if you know anything about GB, USA and Aus we have a rather common rivalery. Since I have worked with many nations on here its a bit rich you saying I supported her cause I'm British. i'm disgusting by your comments. see Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts KnowIG (talk) 19:03, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Me Racist, is it some kind of malicious joke, i'm Indian we even don't know what is Racism (its a metaphor). You're misinterpreting my comment, i was trying to tell that you supported Laura because you're British and both use same language (Laura at least using now). The actual racist here is you, who are repeatedly slanging me. And you even can't imagine how much i know about U.S. and U.K. and i've nothing to do with your common rivalry. I didn't use a single abusive word against you, and you're saying you'll appeal to an admin, actually i'll go to admin for your such misbehavior against me if you won't stop. Bill william compton 20:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- And i'm ment to believe that your english is that poor. You have not been misinterpreted, but have been called for exactly what you ment. And you know exactly what racism is as well. KnowIG (talk) 20:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- At least my English is well good that i don't have to correct my spellings repeatedly, and i didn't say that i don't know what racism is, it was a metaphor (if you know what it is in spite of slanging). And i'm not going to give you any proof, but you're just misinterpreting mine comment.Bill william compton 20:38, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Another accusation. Wow, keep it up, I maybe able to write a book on you. Firstly your saying your not racist. What a load of tosh. Whatever definition you have is bollocks. Racism is any negative comment towards one race from another doesn't matter if your black white, or halfcast or a different nation. So your comments are definatly racist. Secondly i am not misinterpeting you because as soon as I commented you tried to retract it by hiding behind the fact that your Indian and your English is poor, which I don't believe one second. Your English is fine, hence your name Bill william compton which comes from a book. You knew what you said and your trying anyway to duck. KnowIG (talk) 20:43, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- At least my English is well good that i don't have to correct my spellings repeatedly, and i didn't say that i don't know what racism is, it was a metaphor (if you know what it is in spite of slanging). And i'm not going to give you any proof, but you're just misinterpreting mine comment.Bill william compton 20:38, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- And i'm ment to believe that your english is that poor. You have not been misinterpreted, but have been called for exactly what you ment. And you know exactly what racism is as well. KnowIG (talk) 20:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Me Racist, is it some kind of malicious joke, i'm Indian we even don't know what is Racism (its a metaphor). You're misinterpreting my comment, i was trying to tell that you supported Laura because you're British and both use same language (Laura at least using now). The actual racist here is you, who are repeatedly slanging me. And you even can't imagine how much i know about U.S. and U.K. and i've nothing to do with your common rivalry. I didn't use a single abusive word against you, and you're saying you'll appeal to an admin, actually i'll go to admin for your such misbehavior against me if you won't stop. Bill william compton 20:12, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Now why would I do that. Racepackets American and so is Laura and Laura also lives in Aus. The only one being racist is you Bill. And if you know anything about GB, USA and Aus we have a rather common rivalery. Since I have worked with many nations on here its a bit rich you saying I supported her cause I'm British. i'm disgusting by your comments. see Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts KnowIG (talk) 19:03, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- I'll do it now, i thought it was clear to all that you would be the only reviewer of the article. Racepacket, this is the same problem i was facing with her, she was just trumpeting that she couldn't understand me, i'm less communicative, she's unable to understand mine language, i'm Indian, etc. It was the first time that somebody blamed my language as obstacle for comprehensive communication and KnowIG supported her because he's British, well it doesn't matter to me now. Perhaps my note will clear some sort of misunderstanding about you position in the procedure of this article review. Bill william compton 12:35, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- I could use a bit of help. Perhaps you could place a paragraph on the Netball/GA1 page under the "GA procedures" heading indicating that you are designating me, unless you want to do it yourself. I am very tollerant of people disagreeing with me, of using typographical errors in communicating with me, or even using British spelling and vocabulary. However, I have never before seen a Misplaced Pages editor try to avoid difficult quesitons by changing the subject to ask why I am using American spellings or wiki-mark-up language to communicate with her. Thanks, Racepacket (talk) 11:25, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Dear Friend Hitler movie
Reply: Dear Bill, Please refer to the following links. This link clarifies that the only the first look/promo was screened at Berlin. . Also, refer to the movies official website for the real story. Both these links clarify that the movie does not show "Hitler's love for India" or Glorify Hitler. I would appreciate if you remove the controversy section, as its based on an article which is not written on reliable information or facts and this is even clarified in this article :
Thanks,
Gaurav Gauravmendiratta (talk) 06:54, 21 March 2011 (UTC)--Gauravmendiratta (talk) 06:54, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Gaurav, didn't you notice that there was a note - which clearly says This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page, so keep it in mind that whatever you want to discuss, you've to do it on my current talk page (because if you leave anything on my archive than Wiki software doesn't notify me about new message).
Now comes to your problem, as you see your link itself saying that "A first look of the controversial Bollywood film Dear Friend Hitler", so how can i remove the controversy section of the article, and why ain't you digesting this point that its a completely neutral section which is mentioning the two different views (one of media and other of film-makers). This section is for showing Wiki's viewers that "yes there were some controversies", it doesn't support that "these controversies were genuine", i'm again saying this article doesn't say that The Guardian was right about the movie but whether right or wrong we just can't ignore its point; yes i can do one thing that if you'll provide me some other reliable sources (which support your point of view) than i can add their points also, which may give weightage to film-makers view.Bill william compton 10:09, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Bharat Institute of Technology
Hi, you recently added a multiple issues tag to this article. I have since then wikified the content. Though the article needs a lot of work, I think some of the maintainance tags could be removed. Suggestions for imrovement are welcome. Thanks.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 17:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Reply:I've removed tags which are now no longer applicable, and propose some suggestions on the talk page of the article, if you need any kind of my assistance than i'm happy to help, good day. Bill william compton 21:16, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
keep your gob shut
There was no need for this. It was reviewed days ago. Ever heard of working together. Thought not. No need to stick a template on when Race had already announced his intensions and 2 of the 3 contributors had also commented and asked you to comment under that section. Sort your conduct out, all you needed to do was comment where that was not stick a template on. But considering your earlier comments maybe you just don't like me, so don't start being pathetic. KnowIG (talk) 19:00, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Reply: I don't wanna to be in any type of conflict with you because its very much clear that what kind of slate you have on Misplaced Pages, but i'm warning you this is your limit; after this if you shall ever use any British slang term against me than there won't be good consequences for that and i really mean it. I placed that note (template) because User:Racepacket asked me to do so. And who gave you position to threaten me that i should away from Netball or any article's review. If user Racepacket didn't wanna me to place that note there than he could just remove it by himself.Bill william compton 20:21, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- There is no rule against slag stop talking out of your arse. Secondly it might help if you follow Racepackets comments He didn't tell you to put it there did he. Also didn't tell you to use a template. I get you don't like me but being rude (towards others) and racist and then saying you don't know what it means and making rules up ain't getting you anywhere sunshine. Behave. KnowIG (talk) 20:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Don't know about your living environment, but slanging is very much offensive in my culture. If he didn't tell me to put that note there than why he didn't replace it by himself. I used template for better readability because that page had aggregated with thousands of words, if you had any problem with that, than you could just tell me to remove the template and to relocate the note, what was the need of this argument? and with whom i become rude? for my conversation with Laura i apologized to her and believe me there is no such thing that i don't like you, i don't have such a little heart. Please don't call me racist, these things are far behind to racism. I'm not making any rule and don't want any sunshine; i didn't know slanging is the part of conversation on Misplaced Pages (at least i didn't experience it before you), i'll confirm with any senior wikipedian about it. I still purpose a hand of friendship, i'm here on Misplaced Pages to serve the community not to fall in such conflicts and arguments. I take your threat and will never interrupt your and others' work on Netball article (which i actually wasn't doing at all, if Racepacket didn't ask me to place a note i'd never go there). I'm again saying Misplaced Pages is a community which serves the world and we should stay away from this type of arguments. Bill william compton 21:14, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- There is no rule against slag stop talking out of your arse. Secondly it might help if you follow Racepackets comments He didn't tell you to put it there did he. Also didn't tell you to use a template. I get you don't like me but being rude (towards others) and racist and then saying you don't know what it means and making rules up ain't getting you anywhere sunshine. Behave. KnowIG (talk) 20:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Right as a token I shall go and withdraw my complaint about you. Secondly I don't go looking for trouble, you started accusing me because infairness you don't understand the western culture of slang etc. I suggest that you don't take it too heart but not everything or everyone you deal with is going to be how you like it. Nor do we understand/am aware of what is and is not offensive to you. If someone uses slang they are not being offensive although they might be. The trick is not to over react. There is no rule on wiki against slang words on talk page, but there are rules about not writing in English. So since slang would be English you would have to lump it. Thirdly I don't see why i have to justify myself when you were given specific instructions. From my dealings with you, you and me had a bit of needle and when you did the notice it seemed very much attacking towards me. I over reacted I understand you now. Sorry. Fourthly you are more than welcome to do GA and edit netball. Just don't go through and use every MOS thing cause you can implment it and its tedious. If you want to do GA reviews then ask me or racepack and we'll let you do one and then jump in if we feel your going OTT with it/or not going far enough. :) KnowIG (talk) 21:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Bill, I am sorry that you have experienced this. You can read KnowIG's last comment as an appology and move forward or you can leave a complaint at WP:ANI where administrators take actions against editors that use abusive slurs. It is up to you, but I doubt that KnowIG will repeat such conduct in the future. As you can see from the block log he was blocked indefinitely on February 22, but was allowed back on March 1 on the condition that if he ever got into a disagreement, he would "just walk away." So, it is up to you to accept his appology or leave a note on WP:ANI, which will result in his permanent block. Racepacket (talk) 22:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)