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Your DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of İnan Süver at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

DYK for Siamak Pourzand

On 16 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Siamak Pourzand, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the journalism of Siamak Pourzand ranged from film criticism for Cahiers du cinéma to coverage of the "Chain Murders" of Iranian dissidents? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Yan Yan Chan

On 17 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Yan Yan Chan, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Yan Yan Chan, whose band Acid released Burma's first hip hop album, spent nine months in prison for involvement in the pro-democracy group Generation Wave? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 88 Generation Students Group

On 17 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 88 Generation Students Group, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 2008, Burmese 88 Generation democracy activist Mie Mie was sentenced to 65 years imprisonment for "illegally using electronic media" and "forming an illegal organization"? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Mie Mie

On 17 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mie Mie, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 2008, Burmese 88 Generation democracy activist Mie Mie was sentenced to 65 years imprisonment for "illegally using electronic media" and "forming an illegal organization"? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Mie-mie-aka-thin-thin-aye.jpg

Thank you for uploading File:Mie-mie-aka-thin-thin-aye.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of that website's terms of use of its content. However, if the copyright holder is a party unaffiliated from the website's publisher, that copyright should also be acknowledged.

If you have uploaded other files, consider verifying that you have specified sources for those files as well. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged per Misplaced Pages's criteria for speedy deletion, F4. If the image is copyrighted and non-free, the image will be deleted 48 hours after 10:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC) per speedy deletion criterion F7. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. You may wish to read the Misplaced Pages's image use policy. If you have any questions or are in need of assistance please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. —Angr (talk) 10:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

human rights

I agree. that section is not a suitable place to put the picture. However, I think it is important to mention propaganda in Vietnam. It is all up to you. --Trananh1980 (talk) 19:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Political prisoners

Per your comment — if you look, you'll see that I declined several deletions. Only the most extreme cases of living people are eligible for nonfree images; even your "typical" political prisoners aren't. The only exceptions among your images are for those people with life sentences or essentially life (e.g. Khun Htun Oo, with 93 years), who have virtually no chance of getting out. My question to you is different: why did you upload the images with replaceable tags? Nyttend (talk) 22:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Look at the original version of the Khun Htun Oo photo — you uploaded it with {{AutoReplaceable fair use people}}, which doesn't make sense: you should only add a deletion tag to an image if you want it to be deleted. As for the length of time, there's no specific boundary; my judgement is simply an outworking of watching the way non-free images are used here on Misplaced Pages. To my knowledge, the only nonfree images we've ever approved using for living people are J. D. Salinger (an extreme case of a lifelong recluse) and one Italian guy (whose name I can't remember) that was in high-security prison for life. Nyttend (talk) 23:03, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The problem is that you yourself tagged the image for deletion. I'm not saying that you did something wrong in that it was somehow against policy: you simply placed a template that said "Hey, this image should be deleted", which obviously isn't helpful when you don't want the image to be deleted. As far as the appeal process: there is no such page specifically created for that purpose, so you might want to go to the rather general policy village pump, for which topics such as this are in scope. Anyway, 9 years is far less than many other people for whom we don't use nonfree images; the fact exists that she might be photographable within a decade, so she qualifies as replaceable. Nyttend (talk) 23:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah, okay; I never upload images here (virtually all of my uploads are own works that go to Commons), so I didn't think of that. You can simply use Special:Upload instead of going through the cumbersome Misplaced Pages:Upload process: this won't append tags onto the image like the Misplaced Pages:Upload process will. You should add {{non-free fair use in}} to the image, specifying the article in which it's to be used: for example, if you were uploading an image for Su Su Nway for which you claimed fair use, you'd type {{non-free fair use in|Su Su Nway}} below the fair use rationale. Is this helpful, or did I omit something? Don't worry: you're not a pest. Nyttend (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the inconvenience Khazar, it appears I used a wrong template while uploading the image of Filep Kerim. AshLin (talk) 01:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Zaw Htet Ko Ko

On 18 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Zaw Htet Ko Ko, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Zaw Htet Ko Ko, a photographer for the pro-democracy 88 Generation Students Group, is serving an 11-year prison sentence for his involvement in Burma's "Saffron Revolution"? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 09:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Khun Htun Oo

On 19 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Khun Htun Oo, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Khun Htun Oo, a former head of Burma's Shan Nationalities League for Democracy, is now serving a 93-year sentence for treason? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 01:17, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Giles Muhame

On 20 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Giles Muhame, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ugandan Rolling Stone editor Giles Muhame alleged that a gay rights group conspired with Somali terrorist group Al-Shabaab in the July 2010 Kampala suicide bombings? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 16:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Khin Ohmar

On 21 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Khin Ohmar, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Women's League of Burma activist Khin Ohmar evaded arrest during Burma's pro-democracy 8888 Uprising when a Japanese diplomat allowed her and other students to hide from police in his home? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Wipas Raksakulthai

On 22 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wipas Raksakulthai, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 2010, Wipas Raksakulthai became the first Thai man arrested for committing lèse majesté on Facebook? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ohn Than

On 22 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ohn Than, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Burmese democracy activist Ohn Than is serving a life sentence for holding up a poster in front of the US Embassy in Yangon? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

John Haber

Articles that are recreated after a deletion discussion may be speedy deleted: see WP:CSD#G4. When you see such a recreation, just tag it with {{db-g4}}. If you do in fact want to start a new AFD discussion when there has been a previous one (or more) for an article, you need to use {{subst:afdx|2nd}}, which would help you create Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/ARTICLENAME (2nd nomination) as the new discussion page. Each AFD discussion is thus kept on a separate page. WP:AFDHOWTO gives pretty detailed instructions for various scenarios.

So I just speedy deleted John Haber, reverted your addition to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/John Haber and removed it from today's AFD log. Seemed the easiest way to clean it up. postdlf (talk) 03:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Good to know--thanks. Khazar (talk) 03:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Agnes Hewes

Answered your DYK question on this one. BarkingMoon (talk) 09:55, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Badai Pasti Berlalu (song)

I noticed at the DYK Talk page that you were interested in reading the article about the song (and perhaps the others). I was wondering how you liked it, article-wise. Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure! I enjoyed both the novel and song articles, especially the political connection toward the end of the latter, and it irritated me off greatly to see Tony single it out, causing me to probably be more snappish than I needed to be in response. (I do understand his general point, but that was a bad pick). I'm even more impressed that you managed to fit five articles into one hook, which is surely close to some kind of record. Let me know any time you want a second pair of eyes on international lit. stuff--I'll always be happy to take a look, Khazar (talk) 06:37, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind comments. I am an Indonesian lit student, so those are kind of my specialty. If you want a look at other hooks that had 5 articles (or more, one has 26), you can look at the hall of fame (the second section). It is indeed not a common occurrence. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:37, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, that was well worth checking out. When's your five-hooker going in there? Khazar (talk) 15:29, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. I asked for it to run on June 5th because that's when the first part of the novel ran in Kompas as a serial in 1972. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:54, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jabbar Savalan

On 25 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jabbar Savalan, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the European Parliament issued a resolution condemning the drug arrest of Azerbaijani activist Jabbar Savalan? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission

On 25 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission is named for the only Holocaust survivor (pictured) ever to serve in the United States Congress? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 16:04, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK Volkswagen Chattanooga Assembly Plant

Thanks for the review; I like your tweaks; concision can only help: what about "billions of pounds of TNT for the Second, Korean and Vietnamese wars?" 842U (talk) 11:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure. Khazar (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK Manal al-Sharif

Thanks for nominating - i've responded concretely on the DYK talk page you linked to, and more informally on my user page. Boud (talk) 12:18, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Kartam Joga

On 26 May 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kartam Joga, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that adivasi activist Kartam Joga has been accused of joining the deadliest Naxalite attack in India's history? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

2011 Manhattan terrorism plot

Thank you for your due diligence on the article 2011 Manhattan terrorism plot. I revised the hook accordingly as you can see. Plot Spoiler (talk) 01:26, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

On it--cheers, Khazar (talk) 02:22, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Paul Kamara

Thanks for your comment at Paul Kamara. I'm doing my best to sort out the references but I'm being hampered by my lack of football knowledge (I'm an American baseball fan, personally), and the fact that no Sierra Leonean newspapers appear to be Internet-archived that far back. Would you be willing to look over the minor additions I made to both his ministerial and football sections? This one's potentially headed to the front page in a few days via DYK and I want to avoid any major blunders. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 16:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, is "Team Manager" a clear enough term in football lingo to address your concerns? Khazar (talk) 16:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

It's a bit complicated. The term manager by itself can be used to describe someone analagous to a manager in baseball. A team manager though, could be a person responsible for logistics - eg arranging for players' transport and uniforms. The problem is that these usages are not necessarily universal. I've done a quick search but haven't come up with anything solid. I will have another look tomorrow (Saturday). Hack (talk) 16:54, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate that. If it helps, the references in Pool News appear to indicate that Kamara was not the coach, so it seems likely that he's more on the logistical/roster/etc. end of things. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 17:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

This page andthis page suggest he was separate to the head coach and was more akin to a director of football. Hack (talk) 04:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Autopatrolled

Hello Khazar. You created a lot of good, valid and well referenced articles. I don't think your article creations need to be listed at Special:NewPages and I would like to change your user rights to "autopatrolled", just for the sake of reducing the workload of new page patrollers. Please, let me know if you agree. Keep up the good work :) --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:30, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm very flattered, thanks. More eyes on my articles are always welcome, of course, but feel free to remove me from the list if it saves work. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 06:32, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, done. Your contributions help to improve the project's quality in the area of human rights. You do very important and admirable work. Best regards. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:45, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks--it's a pleasure to do it. Khazar (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for writing articles about Burmese political activists. Cheers! 203.81.67.182 (talk) 17:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure! Cheers, Khazar (talk) 18:05, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

I'd like to thank you for helping me out with the article, and with your involvement in DYK!Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure. Sorry to see the hounding, but hopefully the article will be to the satisfaction of all concerned soon. It's already off to a very good start. Cheers, and keep up the good work, Khazar (talk) 05:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Please reconsider this matter

I appreciate your concern but have restructured the request. GO TO: Rename is not removal,deletion or censorship

In view of your obvious commitment to human rights, please reconsider the proposal to have WP stop legitimizing re-envigorating long-dormant racist terminology.06:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Dhondup Wangchen

On 1 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dhondup Wangchen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the American Repertory Theater and System of a Down's Serj Tankian dedicated their 2011 Prometheus Bound to jailed Tibetan filmmaker Dhondup Wangchen? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

For you

		The Human Rights Barnstar
		I've been admiring your exceptional work on creating new articles about notable human rights activists. Your well-referenced, balanced articles go a long way towards filling an important gap in the encyclopedia's coverage. You also seem to be unusually helpful and kind towards other Wikipedians, in particular in your reviews of other editors DYK submissions. And wow, 30 DYKs! CordeliaNaismith (talk) 04:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! It'll go on my User Page with pride. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 04:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Ali Salem

Done for the two requests. Best wishes. --Meno25 (talk) 15:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help and the speedy response. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 15:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Done, again. Thanks. --Meno25 (talk) 15:38, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Ever so grateful

This is to say a big thank you for the award you gave me today. Truly the balance is too shifted to the west and I intend to bridge the gap especially on Ghanaian issues. Thanks once again for my DYKs you have reviewed and the sort. A friend called -- CrossTempleJay  → talk 15:23, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jigme Gyatso

On 1 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jigme Gyatso, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Jigme Gyatso was re-arrested after his allegations of torture by Chinese security forces were re-played on Voice of America? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 17:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Loy (spade)

Hello. Thanks for reviewing my DYK. I've addressed the concerns on referencing the Playboy section (got lazy there). I'd like to try and keep the mention on the potato famine in the hook. I thought about the ploughing champs but in the past I've found that things that are specific to a locality don't perform as well plus mention of the famine is something thats more likely to be of interest to a wider audience. I've added ALT2 if you want to have a look at it, though it is very similar to the original. Thanks for the Barnstar, couldn't resist a cheesy joke! GainLine ♠ _♥ 09:28, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Good to go--cheers. Khazar (talk) 15:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Wardah Hafidz

I have brought Wardah Hafidz to roughly 1650 chars and nominated it at DYK with you as co-author. It seems that there may be more English-language sources, like here and here. (Side note: If you are looking for English-language sources for Indonesia-related articles, trying a site search of Jakarta Post or Jakarta Globe... it works well for recent events, although it is horribly lacking for historical issues.) Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow--thanks so much. I'll keep the JP tip in mind for the future; actually, I might try to expand some of the articles I mentioned to you from that right now. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 15:19, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

You are very welcome. We are lucky that they have pretty good records for the past ten years or so, especially the Post. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:10, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Manal al-Sharif

On 3 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Manal al-Sharif, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Saudi Arabian women's rights activist Manal al-Sharif was arrested after a video of her driving a car was posted on YouTube and Facebook? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

NW (Talk) 00:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bambang Harymurti

I have expanded Bambang Harymurti by roughly 1500 chars and plan to nominate him for DYK with you as the co-nom. Hopefully the hook can include that he originally wanted to be an astronaut :-) Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:45, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

LOL, is that true? Consider me hooked. I'll look over the new additions in an hour or two. Thanks for the collaboration, this has been fun. Khazar (talk) 03:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

The Jakarta Post says he qualified as a potential candidate and everything. Much obliged, this has been fantastic. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:50, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Amnesty Photos

My god, reading the Amnesty International page is incredibly disheartening D: Makes me appreciate my dictator-free basement dwelling lifestyle. Great job with the Ales Bialatski page! I'm an infobox junkie, so I went ahead and added one in. I may try to contact Amnesty International as well, maybe second try is the charm; they would be an excellent source of photos. I'm also tempted by the approach you tried on U Ohn Than, I'll consider that as an alternative. Sloggerbum (talk) 16:56, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Death of Selena

Hey, I was wondering if you can use the AWB like you did to The New Girl in Town? Thanks, AJona1992 (talk) 04:01, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. Once you've got enough mainspace edits (maybe you already do) I'd suggest downloading it yourself at Misplaced Pages:AutoWikiBrowser; it's a great tool. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 04:02, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh alright, well thank you! AJona1992 (talk) 04:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Dandeniya Gamage Jayanthi

On 6 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dandeniya Gamage Jayanthi, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Dandeniya Gamage Jayanthi founded the group "Friends and Relatives of the Disappeared" following the abduction, shooting, and burning of her fiancé? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 08:06, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Paul Kamara

On 7 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Paul Kamara, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that award-winning journalist Paul Kamara has also been a priest, a cabinet minister, and the manager of Sierra Leone's national football team? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Mifter (talk) 06:02, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ali Salem

On 7 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ali Salem, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Civil Courage Prize laureate Ali Salem was ostracized by the Egyptian intellectual community following a 1994 book in which he promoted peace with Israel? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Modeste Mutinga

On 7 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Modeste Mutinga, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Modeste Mutinga won an international prize for his journalism before being elected to the Senate of the Democratic Republic of the Congo? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Thepchai Yong

Hello! Your submission of Thepchai Yong at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:25, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Replied there. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 01:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Muhammad Al-Saqr

On 8 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Muhammad Al-Saqr, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Muhammad Al-Saqr won an International Press Freedom Award for his work as a journalist before becoming chairman of the Arab Parliament? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Stutter (Elastica song)

First of all, thanks for reviewing my hook. Second, I did cite the sources that I used for the hook facts. They're here and here, and these links are in the article's Reference section, as well. About the hook's wording, the source I found used the phrase "male impotence", so I guess for the sake of accuracy that's what I would prefer to use :) - PM800 (talk) 06:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the quote is on page 95 of the Harris book, second paragraph from the bottom... - PM800 (talk) 06:27, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem, thanks again. - PM800 (talk) 06:35, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Muhammad Al-Saqr

Hi. As far as I can tell, they are the same person. Cheers. --Meno25 (talk) 15:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Nadira Isayeva

On 9 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nadira Isayeva, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Russian journalist Nadira Isayeva called her 2010 trial "a test for the institution of press freedom" in Dagestan? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Wardah Hafidz

Could you take a look at the nom? An IP user has expressed concern about the phrasing, but I see nothing wrong. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:46, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Replied there. Khazar (talk) 05:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy reply. I've agreed to the hook, so we just need to wait for someone to review. Sleep well! Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:54, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Omar Belhouchet

On 9 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Omar Belhouchet, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1993, the car of Algerian journalist Omar Belhouchet was machine-gunned while he was driving his children to school? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Aung Pwint

On 9 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aung Pwint, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Burmese journalist Aung Pwint was imprisoned on charges of "sending news" and "illegal ownership of a fax machine"? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Request

Hi. How do I cite a hook up in DYK??? Could you help me, please? Best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 16:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Uhm, like this? Regards; --Nephiliskos (talk) 17:15, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I`ve chosen verena Lepper as source, since she gives the most actual and accurate translation, especially of the talk between Dedi and the king.--Nephiliskos (talk) 17:40, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ahmad and Tomy

Thanks for fixing those references; I've started using "cite web" consistently, so hopefully that doesn't happen again. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:44, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem at all--it's a small price to pay for those terrific additions to that article. As you saw, I had one of my own to fix too. No big deal either way (though Barking was right to get us to standardize it). Cheers, Khazar (talk) 23:46, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, it will make improving the article easier. BTW, since you are interested in human rights you may be interested in reading May 1998 riots of Indonesia; I'm fairly proud of the expansion that Arsonal and I did (mainly him though). He's thinking of nominating it for GA eventually. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Just read through and left a few comments. Good stuff! Khazar (talk) 04:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Cheers! Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:59, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Input request

Hello again. I'm wondering if you could lend a bit of input? I am working on User:GainLine/Christopher Hutton, about an MI9 operative who was responsible for most of the escape kit used by the Allies in WW2 and going to bring it to DYK. I think it has potential to do really well so I want to write as strong a hook as possible. I'd really value your input on suggestions. I was thinking of something surrounding the Monopoly sets and trying to work in the "get out of jail free card" or something to do with the number of escapers using the equipment. I'd also like to try and use the pic of the escape map in the nom and I reckon the Daily Mail or ABC refs are probably the strongest. Not asking much I know! Anything you have to add would be greatly appreciated. The article's still a work in progress so feel free to make change as you see fit. (if you like of course!)GainLine ♠ _♥ 11:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Glad to. Replied there. Khazar (talk) 18:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Etymology

Yeah. Please don't remove links like you did. You cut off Daniel Granada!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that. The article had several redlinks to linguists and, in one case, a private tutor of the 19th century. Generally my policy is to remove redlinks to scholars who don't have a clear claim to notability on the assumption that should those articles be added to Misplaced Pages, the link can easily be replaced by the person creating that article. Anyway, if you think all those individuals are likely to be added, it's an easy fix to switch them back. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 21:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

No probs, but note that all articles which I think should be written I red link. Red links are not pretty but many articles such as this reveal a lot of missing articles. This is the way wikipedia should grow.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:28, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, I agree. I've just built up the habit from seeing some other DYK noms redlink every scholar, reporter, and eyewitness they cite. I'll definitely keep your approach in mind the next time I review one of your pieces, though. Again, kudos to a good expansion. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 21:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Chuy etymology section has been duly referenced by Dr. Bloefld.--Nvvchar. 15:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.--Nvvchar. 16:42, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Women in Bahrain

Need a 2nd opinion on this at T:TDYK. BarkingMoon (talk) 10:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ricardo Uceda

On 11 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ricardo Uceda, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that journalist Ricardo Uceda helped locate the mass grave of the La Cantuta massacre victims? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Kudos to Khazar (maybe khudos as well)

Thanks for your encouraging message at WT:DYK about my little project to build Misplaced Pages's pages of interesting creatures. Khudos for encouraging a relative novice, and for your own grander project as evidenced here on your talk page. Sharktopus 13:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Wardah Hafidz

On 1 January 2025, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wardah Hafidz, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Calmer Waters 19:07, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bambang Harymurti

On 13 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bambang Harymurti, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Indonesian journalist Bambang Harymurti originally wanted to be an astronaut and qualified as a potential candidate? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Beatrice Mtetwa

On 13 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Beatrice Mtetwa, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Beatrice Mtetwa, "Zimbabwe's top human rights lawyer", has secured the release of reporters from The New York Times and The Sunday Telegraph? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:28, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bill Foley

On 13 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bill Foley, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bill Foley's photograph "The Last Smile" shows Anwar Sadat only moments before his assassination? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 12:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Santorum

Hi Khazar, responding to your comments at RfAR, I think everyone agrees that the campaign ought to be covered in Misplaced Pages. The problem with the current article is that what it covers, and what is notable, is Dan Savage's campaign, rather than the neologism itself; yet the article is titled for the neologism, which no dictionary of slang includes (and which Partridge, a standard work in the field, specifically named as one of the neologisms they chose to exclude; see Talk:Santorum_(neologism)#Partridge_revisited).

It is in a way unfortunate that the RfC combines the issues of renaming, redirecting and merging; I think there is broad consensus for the rename, but less consensus for the merge and redirect. A rename alone would address most editors' concerns that the article in itself is part of the campaign to spread the neologism.

As regards my concerns about Cirt, they are summarised at User:Jayen466/Political_activism. There simply have been too many cases of Cirt placing political campaign material on project main pages, and there is conclusive proof that this was part of externally organised campaigns. It shows form, and undermines the assumption of good faith in relation to this article. Perhaps, if you read the page, you'll understand my concerns better.

Personally, I see the BLP priority as renaming the article; and like others, I am filled with impatience because the RfC has to be allowed to conclude first, meanwhile prolonging our active participation in the campaign. But it's a tricky situation, and can't be helped. Cheers, --JN466 17:29, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jayen, Thanks for reaching out. You may have seen on the "neologism" talk page that I'm also very supportive of a rename; my main concern in opposing Slim's proposal is her condition that coverage of this topic not exceed "one or two paragraphs". It's a shame those ended up rolled up together.

On the RfAR page, I was concerned by the number of comments, including one from an aribtrator, that appeared to suggest that this content should be deleted altogether as a BLP violation and also the accusation of bad faith, activism, etc., in wanting to keep this content. I'm still amenable, though, to a name change or maaaaaaaybe a merge, though again not under Slim's proposal. With more news stories cropping up on this campaign every day, I just can't buy that we need to limit this topic, now and forever, to only 5-10 sentences, and her proposal to fix this limit strikes me as highly suspicious.unwise.

As for DYK, I do better understand your concerns for Cirt's nominations after reading your page, but at the same time, I'm still reluctant to see potentially good content disappear with the bad. So far the only concern expressed at DYK that I've seen re: these articles is on the frequency of their appearance, rather than the notability or quality of their content. The former problem can be solved just by spacing them out more, I think, and without creating a precedent (only "x" number of articles about topic "Y" allowed over length of time "z") that will potentially discourage future article creation & promotion. If you're concerned about the quality of the articles or hooks themselves, perhaps we might double-check them together for objectionable content, or ask an uninvolved editor to do so.

Anyway, again, thanks for taking the time to respond to my concerns. It's extremely considerate and deeply appreciated. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 17:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

ec (Talk page reader) I agree with Jayen that the Googlebombing campaign is notable, that the article is about the Googlebombing, that having the article misnamed "Santorum (neologism)" is equivalent to having Misplaced Pages throw its huge weight into endorsing the term. But questioning Cirt's GF is offtopic of what should happen to the article. I dislike Santorum's politics, admire Savage, and would like to see the article either 1) renamed or 2) greatly shrunk to remove material describing the campaign rather than the neologism. Sharktopus 18:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like we're all on roughly the same page, and I agree with the frustration that we can't end this well-intentioned but ill-conceived RfC early to get to the growing consensus. This seems like a rare case where Misplaced Pages does have a deadline.Khazar (talk) 18:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Common Statement?

I started working up a combined draft of the points made by apparently like-minded people at User:Wnt/User_Faction/santorum#A_mutually_compatible_point_of_view. You're one of the 11 I think should be compatible. I'd like to get as many points as possible that everyone involved can agree on completely, so I'd much appreciate it if you could endorse the statement, and/or specify which points you reject or need reworked or explained. (and in all fairness there are a few I can see need work). Interested? Wnt (talk) 21:01, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ahmad Taufik

On 14 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ahmad Taufik, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that journalist Ahmad Taufik was acquitted after being taken to court by both the Suharto government and Tomy Winata, one of Indonesia's richest businessmen? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Tomy Winata

On 14 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tomy Winata, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that journalist Ahmad Taufik was acquitted after being taken to court by both the Suharto government and Tomy Winata, one of Indonesia's richest businessmen? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Dan Savage DYKs

I'd like to get this business of the Dan Savage DYKs resolved once and for all, but it's clear now that some people do not want to see the articles appearing on DYK under any circumstances, regardless of the lack of any policy basis for such a veto. I suggest that we should put the matter to a special vote on T:TDYK where the DYK community as a whole can cast a straight up or down vote. What do you think? Prioryman (talk) 07:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Replied there. Khazar (talk) 13:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I think part of the problem is that people right now are !voting on a whole bunch of different issues when they talk about those DYKs, including feelings about the current disputants. What might be easier would be to !vote on two hypothetical cases where somebody in good faith has DYKed several articles about books by a political figure where 1) you despise that figure and all his doings and 2) you admire that figure and consider his work important. Because really you should vote exactly the same in those two hypothetical cases, and that opinion should cover the Dan Savage case. My feeling is that if the articles and hooks are NPOV, we have no policy on timing how often a topic X gets into DYK, even if topic X is a commercial product or a controversial politician we might hypothetically be "promoting." Sharktopus 13:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

My feeling is the same as yours, though I worry an up/down vote right now on policy or hypothetical cases would only be an up/down vote on the Savage hooks by proxy. In any case, you should definitely chime in on WP:DYK as well; as somebody who occupies a reasonable middle ground on some of these issues, you might be able to help break through the stalemate. Enjoy the day! Khazar (talk) 13:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

The hypothetical discussion is a good idea, but as you say there is a risk that it would be hijacked by the Savage partisans. It's for that reason that I think a separate up/down vote on the Savage hooks would be preferable (though there's no reason that can't take place at the same time as the hypothetical discussion). What I have in mind is adding a section on T:TDYK, with a preamble outlining the situation followed by something along these lines:

A proposal has been put forward at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Compromise proposals to resolve the dispute over the timing of the DYKs. In order to obtain a consensus, it has been brought here for the community to make a decision. Please indicate below whether you support this proposal:

To run the following five previously approved hooks at intervals of one week apart each.

Under that, editors would be invited to say whether they supported or opposed the proposal. Any thoughts? I think it would be helpful to (1) resolve this once and for all - the talk page discussion is getting nowhere - and (2) get more visibility of the issue, so that whatever decision is reached has the maximum level of support. Prioryman (talk) 19:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ales Bialatski

On 14 June 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ales Bialatski, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ales Bialatski earned a PhD in Belarusian literature before becoming the vice president of the International Federation for Human Rights? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)