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| Please familiarize yourself with the ] and let it guide all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Your repeated attempts to insert unsourced POV opinion about Jon Krakauer is not acceptable. Please do not edit war to add this material. Any contentious material must be based on what ] say, not your own interpretation of how you think people were portrayed in his book. Speculating without evidence that another editor is Krakauer, works for Krakauer, the New York Times or TV is counterproductive and inappropriate. Propose any changes on the talk pages of the various articles, and add content only after gaining consensus. Thank you. ] ] 00:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC) | Please familiarize yourself with the ] and let it guide all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Your repeated attempts to insert unsourced POV opinion about Jon Krakauer is not acceptable. Please do not edit war to add this material. Any contentious material must be based on what ] say, not your own interpretation of how you think people were portrayed in his book. Speculating without evidence that another editor is Krakauer, works for Krakauer, the New York Times or TV is counterproductive and inappropriate. Propose any changes on the talk pages of the various articles, and add content only after gaining consensus. Thank you. ] ] 00:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
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| Although well written, the author aims for commercial success presenting as well heroes and villains rather than a real life story. Jon was the fit client watching them making mistakes, and Krakauer choose a Russian guide (Anatole Boukreev) from the rival expedition speaking little english: The perfect fit for a villain stereotype in the USA market. | |||
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| is quite inappropriate. | |||
| We have standards for the type of material that can be added, and a need for reliable sources to support additions. You are not meeting those requirements, and you will be blocked if you persist. | |||
| If you have references to support your planned edits, post them on the talk page and we can discuss.--<font style="font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light ">]]</font> 01:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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December 2011
Welcome to Misplaced Pages, and thank you for your contributions. One of the core policies of Misplaced Pages is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view. A contribution you made to Jon Krakauer appears to carry a non-neutral point of view, and your edit may have been changed or reverted to correct the problem. Please remember to observe this. Thank you. (talk→ LesHB ←track) 17:44, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you violate Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Jon Krakauer, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. (talk→ LesHB ←track) 18:06, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
The changes I made Jon Krakauer are based on facts verifiable on books, which I supply to the specific pages. Misplaced Pages is not about providing promotion or commodity texts, if you Lhb1239 doesn't like it is not enough to change those texts. I see you (Lhb1239) have an history of turning down uncomfortable comments for Krakauer ¿are you Krakauer or an employee?
Personal attacks against me aren't helping you win friends and influence anyone toward your point of view. Misplaced Pages has very strict guidelines for how articles that are biographies of living persons are to be written. Please familiarize yourself with the policy on WP:BLP and WP:POV. While you're at it, you might want to also look into the Misplaced Pages policy on WP:3RR. Regards, (talk→ LesHB ←track) 18:19, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
You describe your account as open to discuss, here I go before changing anything: I assume you are Jon Krakauer, no intention to be personal. Just describing facts I am aware years ago. Not every body has the same point of view, and regarding wikipedia I am total aware of Conflict_of_interest my text has neither vandalism or personals attacks, hope you support someone else's criticism on a public matter. This is not Jon Krakauer web site, that place will be your territory not wikipedia.
It doesn't matter what you or I think of Krakauer, what matters is that anything you put into the article on him or anyone else remains neutral. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a gossip rag. Encyclopedias contain neutral information, gossip rags contain libelous crap. See the difference? Read the highlighted articles in my previous post, and you will likely have a better understanding of how things work here. And when you submit comments to a talk page, please be sure to sign by inserting four of these ---> ~. Happy New Year, (talk→ LesHB ←track) 18:37, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your advise. It is your POV and is respectable. If you do not like what I wrote, propouse an edition including some text, there is evidence that the true stroy has flaws, I will accept that, otherwise you will be converted on the keeper on Jon Krakauers bio. Pepeleyva (talk) 18:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Jon Krakauer. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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WikiPuppies, thank you on your advice I am trying discussing How my text should be added with the aproval of Lhb1239, we will come with a better collaborated text as a comunity. It looks as Lhb1239 is working for the New York Times or TV, that's his line of work on wikipedia. RegardsPepeleyva (talk)
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Writing from the neutral point of view is essential
Hello, and welcome back to Misplaced Pages,
Please familiarize yourself with the neutral point of view and let it guide all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Your repeated attempts to insert unsourced POV opinion about Jon Krakauer is not acceptable. Please do not edit war to add this material. Any contentious material must be based on what reliable sources say, not your own interpretation of how you think people were portrayed in his book. Speculating without evidence that another editor is Krakauer, works for Krakauer, the New York Times or TV is counterproductive and inappropriate. Propose any changes on the talk pages of the various articles, and add content only after gaining consensus. Thank you. Cullen Let's discuss it 00:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Not acceptable
Adding material such as this: You said:
Although well written, the author aims for commercial success presenting as well heroes and villains rather than a real life story. Jon was the fit client watching them making mistakes, and Krakauer choose a Russian guide (Anatole Boukreev) from the rival expedition speaking little english: The perfect fit for a villain stereotype in the USA market.
is quite inappropriate.
We have standards for the type of material that can be added, and a need for reliable sources to support additions. You are not meeting those requirements, and you will be blocked if you persist.
If you have references to support your planned edits, post them on the talk page and we can discuss.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 01:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)