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| ::To answer you on what Rivertorch told me you said on her/his talk page, you have accused me of being "racist" - I have said nothing racist - that is a nonsense "if you say I did it I say you did it" kind of response - besides, what race am I supposedly being "racist" towards? I did not attack you for your views, I stated that they existed to indicate that you had a strong and intransigent POV that would not accept opposing opinions, as can be seen on the Fascism talk page. Plus excluding scholars because of their heritage - as you suggested of Jewish, British, and American authors because they are allegedly and automatically "unreliable" is prejudiced, discriminatory, and xenophobic; and a violation of NPOV.I have encountered publicly-stated neo-Nazis and neo-fascists (who say that they are such) on Misplaced Pages before, I didn't know that you would claim it was insulting, but as I said, your claims sound very much like those of neo-fascists, and they still are openly anti-Semitic in claiming that Jews are unreliable sources and that there is a Jewish conspiracy against the accurate representation of fascism. The fact is that you repeatedly mentioned that Jews were "unreliable sources" as well as British and Americans and goes on to explain that there is a conspiracy by Jews and anti-fascists against accurate representation of fascism - that is outright xenophobic and anti-Semitic; that seems to be very good reason for me to deduce that you are a neo-Nazi or an anti-Semitic neo-fascist. Multiple users rejected your arguments and said that you were posting anti-Semitic material - you refused to accept their criticisms and grew angry with them. Considering that Rivertorch believed that you have been harassing her/him, and that you have falsely accused me in an aggressively natured and groundless personal attack of racism. I am considering reporting you for inappropriate behaviour on Misplaced Pages - particularly personal attacks.--] (]) 16:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | ::To answer you on what Rivertorch told me you said on her/his talk page, you have accused me of being "racist" - I have said nothing racist - that is a nonsense "if you say I did it I say you did it" kind of response - besides, what race am I supposedly being "racist" towards? I did not attack you for your views, I stated that they existed to indicate that you had a strong and intransigent POV that would not accept opposing opinions, as can be seen on the Fascism talk page. Plus excluding scholars because of their heritage - as you suggested of Jewish, British, and American authors because they are allegedly and automatically "unreliable" is prejudiced, discriminatory, and xenophobic; and a violation of NPOV.I have encountered publicly-stated neo-Nazis and neo-fascists (who say that they are such) on Misplaced Pages before, I didn't know that you would claim it was insulting, but as I said, your claims sound very much like those of neo-fascists, and they still are openly anti-Semitic in claiming that Jews are unreliable sources and that there is a Jewish conspiracy against the accurate representation of fascism. The fact is that you repeatedly mentioned that Jews were "unreliable sources" as well as British and Americans and goes on to explain that there is a conspiracy by Jews and anti-fascists against accurate representation of fascism - that is outright xenophobic and anti-Semitic; that seems to be very good reason for me to deduce that you are a neo-Nazi or an anti-Semitic neo-fascist. Multiple users rejected your arguments and said that you were posting anti-Semitic material - you refused to accept their criticisms and grew angry with them. Considering that Rivertorch believed that you have been harassing her/him, and that you have falsely accused me in an aggressively natured and groundless personal attack of racism. I am considering reporting you for inappropriate behaviour on Misplaced Pages - particularly personal attacks.--] (]) 16:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
| :::Are you finished with your aggressive attitude towards me? Or should I report you right now for your personal attacks?--] (]) 16:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | :::Are you finished with your aggressive attitude towards me? Or should I report you right now for your personal attacks?--] (]) 16:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
| :::Who am I being "racist" towards on the Fascism article?--] (]) 16:25, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | ::::Who am I being "racist" towards on the Fascism article?--] (]) 16:25, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
| ::::Maybe you could stop editing for two minutes and let me get a word in edgewise... --] (]) 16:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | :::::Maybe you could stop editing for two minutes and let me get a word in edgewise... --] (]) 16:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
| Are you finished with your aggressive attitude towards me? Or should I report you right now for your personal attacks?--] (]) 16:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::I was finished with you and your ilk before you came on my page and started rambling. But now that ''you'' started up again... | |||
| ::You easily throw around accusations of so-called "racism" and so-called "anti-Semitism", and display an obsession with race. That seems pretty 'racist' according to liberal standards. You keep ], but I never mentioned race; you did. | |||
| ::Regarding the would-be scholars, what I said was (and don't pretend like this wasn't clear; blame your knee-jerk "Nazi" reaction if it wasn't) was that anti-Fascists and supporters of the Allied Powers (Jewish, American, and British -- none of whom are a race, by the way) who are writing about Fascism are unreliable when they write on Fascist ideology while openly contradicting the Axis' own "statements of faith", claiming they believed things that they didn't believe (or at least never said), not giving original sources for quotes, and frankly making crap up without evidence. I don't care if they are the majority; that doesn't make them reliable. Especially not when they themselves are openly contradicting "statements of faith", claiming Fascism is black when Fascism is white, while pretending to neutrally explain the ideology. I want you to respond to my questions regarding National Socialists writing an article on Judaism -- do you apply the same principles or not? | |||
| ::I wasn't surprised by your accusations. You're a notorious anti-Fascist, clearly biased against them, and a bad-willed lover of lies, so I expect your sort to act the way you do. | |||
| ::Report me if you wish -- if you truly feel that threatened by me. I can report you right back if I wanted to for violating NPA: "Comparing editors to Nazis." --] (]) 16:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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January 2012
Please do not attack other editors, as you did in this edit. See WP:NPA if you need further guidance. Rivertorch (talk) 07:31, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Your admonishment really means nothing so long as you let others get away with the same thing.--ChristianHistory (talk) 07:33, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- To answer you on what Rivertorch told me you said on her/his talk page, you have accused me of being "racist" - I have said nothing racist - that is a nonsense "if you say I did it I say you did it" kind of response - besides, what race am I supposedly being "racist" towards? I did not attack you for your views, I stated that they existed to indicate that you had a strong and intransigent POV that would not accept opposing opinions, as can be seen on the Fascism talk page. Plus excluding scholars because of their heritage - as you suggested of Jewish, British, and American authors because they are allegedly and automatically "unreliable" is prejudiced, discriminatory, and xenophobic; and a violation of NPOV.I have encountered publicly-stated neo-Nazis and neo-fascists (who say that they are such) on Misplaced Pages before, I didn't know that you would claim it was insulting, but as I said, your claims sound very much like those of neo-fascists, and they still are openly anti-Semitic in claiming that Jews are unreliable sources and that there is a Jewish conspiracy against the accurate representation of fascism. The fact is that you repeatedly mentioned that Jews were "unreliable sources" as well as British and Americans and goes on to explain that there is a conspiracy by Jews and anti-fascists against accurate representation of fascism - that is outright xenophobic and anti-Semitic; that seems to be very good reason for me to deduce that you are a neo-Nazi or an anti-Semitic neo-fascist. Multiple users rejected your arguments and said that you were posting anti-Semitic material - you refused to accept their criticisms and grew angry with them. Considering that Rivertorch believed that you have been harassing her/him, and that you have falsely accused me in an aggressively natured and groundless personal attack of racism. I am considering reporting you for inappropriate behaviour on Misplaced Pages - particularly personal attacks.--R-41 (talk) 16:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Are you finished with your aggressive attitude towards me? Or should I report you right now for your personal attacks?--R-41 (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Who am I being "racist" towards on the Fascism article?--R-41 (talk) 16:25, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe you could stop editing for two minutes and let me get a word in edgewise... --ChristianHistory (talk) 16:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Who am I being "racist" towards on the Fascism article?--R-41 (talk) 16:25, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Are you finished with your aggressive attitude towards me? Or should I report you right now for your personal attacks?--R-41 (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- To answer you on what Rivertorch told me you said on her/his talk page, you have accused me of being "racist" - I have said nothing racist - that is a nonsense "if you say I did it I say you did it" kind of response - besides, what race am I supposedly being "racist" towards? I did not attack you for your views, I stated that they existed to indicate that you had a strong and intransigent POV that would not accept opposing opinions, as can be seen on the Fascism talk page. Plus excluding scholars because of their heritage - as you suggested of Jewish, British, and American authors because they are allegedly and automatically "unreliable" is prejudiced, discriminatory, and xenophobic; and a violation of NPOV.I have encountered publicly-stated neo-Nazis and neo-fascists (who say that they are such) on Misplaced Pages before, I didn't know that you would claim it was insulting, but as I said, your claims sound very much like those of neo-fascists, and they still are openly anti-Semitic in claiming that Jews are unreliable sources and that there is a Jewish conspiracy against the accurate representation of fascism. The fact is that you repeatedly mentioned that Jews were "unreliable sources" as well as British and Americans and goes on to explain that there is a conspiracy by Jews and anti-fascists against accurate representation of fascism - that is outright xenophobic and anti-Semitic; that seems to be very good reason for me to deduce that you are a neo-Nazi or an anti-Semitic neo-fascist. Multiple users rejected your arguments and said that you were posting anti-Semitic material - you refused to accept their criticisms and grew angry with them. Considering that Rivertorch believed that you have been harassing her/him, and that you have falsely accused me in an aggressively natured and groundless personal attack of racism. I am considering reporting you for inappropriate behaviour on Misplaced Pages - particularly personal attacks.--R-41 (talk) 16:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Are you finished with your aggressive attitude towards me? Or should I report you right now for your personal attacks?--R-41 (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- I was finished with you and your ilk before you came on my page and started rambling. But now that you started up again...
- You easily throw around accusations of so-called "racism" and so-called "anti-Semitism", and display an obsession with race. That seems pretty 'racist' according to liberal standards. You keep crying about anti-Semitism, but I never mentioned race; you did.
- Regarding the would-be scholars, what I said was (and don't pretend like this wasn't clear; blame your knee-jerk "Nazi" reaction if it wasn't) was that anti-Fascists and supporters of the Allied Powers (Jewish, American, and British -- none of whom are a race, by the way) who are writing about Fascism are unreliable when they write on Fascist ideology while openly contradicting the Axis' own "statements of faith", claiming they believed things that they didn't believe (or at least never said), not giving original sources for quotes, and frankly making crap up without evidence. I don't care if they are the majority; that doesn't make them reliable. Especially not when they themselves are openly contradicting "statements of faith", claiming Fascism is black when Fascism is white, while pretending to neutrally explain the ideology. I want you to respond to my questions regarding National Socialists writing an article on Judaism -- do you apply the same principles or not?
- I wasn't surprised by your accusations. You're a notorious anti-Fascist, clearly biased against them, and a bad-willed lover of lies, so I expect your sort to act the way you do.
- Report me if you wish -- if you truly feel that threatened by me. I can report you right back if I wanted to for violating NPA: "Comparing editors to Nazis." --ChristianHistory (talk) 16:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)