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| I welcome anyone's thoughts on this. And better, any ideas to alter this seeming trend. - <b>]</b> 19:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | I welcome anyone's thoughts on this. And better, any ideas to alter this seeming trend. - <b>]</b> 19:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
| :I fully agree. This has become a major problem. A few negative editors have been able to drive away some of our best editors and many new editors with just a few out of context diffs. There are too many editors at AN/I that enjoy supporting sanctions/bans/indefinite blocks. There is no longer any tolerance for mistakes, which makes it very difficult for new editors to become long-term editors. Misplaced Pages is a wiki, mistakes can be easily fixed so there shouldn't be any problem with mistakes. Yes, many websites mirror Misplaced Pages, presenting potential difficulties in correcting offsite mistakes. However, it isn't our responsibility to make sure those mirrors are correct. We have ] for this purpose. ] ] 19:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | :I fully agree. This has become a major problem. A few negative editors have been able to drive away some of our best editors and many new editors with just a few out of context diffs. There are too many editors at AN/I that enjoy supporting sanctions/bans/indefinite blocks. There is no longer any tolerance for mistakes, which makes it very difficult for new editors to become long-term editors. Misplaced Pages is a wiki, mistakes can be easily fixed so there shouldn't be any problem with mistakes. Yes, many websites mirror Misplaced Pages, presenting potential difficulties in correcting offsite mistakes. However, it isn't our responsibility to make sure those mirrors are correct. We have ] for this purpose. ] ] 19:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
| ::I'd suggest you look through the diffs contained in the AN/I thread, that relate directly to Olive's conduct on RS/N, over an issue she has previously been sanctioned over. ] (]) 02:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Word limit on request pages
This one is 1200 words. Tony (talk) 04:36, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Theodore Bikel
This is just an informal FYI, rather than a noticeboard filing. Two IPs have replaced "Israel" with "Palestine", which I have reverted, citing the source which uses "Israel". I noted that such edits may fall under the scope of the Arab-Israeli Conflict Arbitration ruling, and provided links to the ruling using the associated templates.
An outside review of my edits wouldn't hurt. (I trust that this is a quickly resolved issue.)
BTW, Theodore Bikel played the Russian-born father of the Klingon Worf on Star Trek: The Next Generation. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 17:54, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know why you needed to post this here instead of the article talk page, but I have reverted to "Palestine" as the source is clearly in error - Israel did not exist until 1948 - although the source itself does mention that the family "migrated to Palestine". Gatoclass (talk) 07:56, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee 3
You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee 3. Silverseren 21:26, 29 January 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48
Quick request
Would someone care to take a look at this discussion on WP:BLPN? When I notified User:Johnalexwood that I was discussing their edits, I noticed this warning from User:Sandstein about ARBSCI/BLP issues. (I asked Sandstein to take a look, but they said "I'm not currently active in arbitration enforcement because I consider it a waste of time due to insufficient support on the part of the Arbitration Committee". I can certainly relate to that.) Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 04:31, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Olive's post
I'll say up front I have no idea about the specific situation under review.
but I think Olive's points about this negative trend of interacting (to use a nicer word than what tends to happen) with other editors. are things which should be addressed by somebody.
Yes, there can a clique-ish nature to most boards and Misplaced Pages process areas. simply that those more involved in a specific area tend to have a better idea of what goes on there (for good or ill). But they also have the easiest route to abuse that knowledge for subtly (or even less than subtly) gaming the system. Or even if it's shoot first and ask questions later (or even no questions, just link some diffs out of context and rile up the masses).
Is every Wikipedian like this? I surely hope not. But we do have more than our fair share I think.
So I think discussion of this, and finding ways forward would be a boon. If we let the negative editors drive the positive ones away, we're going to be left with more and more negative, and less and less positive. And I would hope that that is not a situation that we're striving for.
I welcome anyone's thoughts on this. And better, any ideas to alter this seeming trend. - jc37 19:12, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- I fully agree. This has become a major problem. A few negative editors have been able to drive away some of our best editors and many new editors with just a few out of context diffs. There are too many editors at AN/I that enjoy supporting sanctions/bans/indefinite blocks. There is no longer any tolerance for mistakes, which makes it very difficult for new editors to become long-term editors. Misplaced Pages is a wiki, mistakes can be easily fixed so there shouldn't be any problem with mistakes. Yes, many websites mirror Misplaced Pages, presenting potential difficulties in correcting offsite mistakes. However, it isn't our responsibility to make sure those mirrors are correct. We have Misplaced Pages:General disclaimer for this purpose. Alpha_Quadrant 19:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
- I'd suggest you look through the diffs contained in the AN/I thread, that relate directly to Olive's conduct on RS/N, over an issue she has previously been sanctioned over. Fifelfoo (talk) 02:47, 4 February 2012 (UTC)