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If you have come here to post a long, profane rant about either me or some aspect of Misplaced Pages, I have no objections, as I think it's helpful to vent sometimes. I ask that you only 1. refrain from making personal attacks about other editors (besides me) and 2. avoid posting anything that might be construed as outing. Other than that, you may freely tell me that some guideline is a "fucking pain in the goddamned ass", or that my work was "a fucking pile of goddamn shit" as long as you have a reason why you think so- personal attacks don't bother me if they are made discussing a legitimate issue. I have no aversion to swearing myself, so don't post anything about me (or anything else, for that matter) that you wouldn't want to hear me say about you (obviously, warnings and the like are exempt from this). I will use your posts as the threshold for any particular conversation- if you ask me to tone down my language, I also have no objections.

Unblock request decline reason in the case of Rapide

Notwithstanding the fact that Rapide (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) clearly breached WP:NLT in his unblock request here, I just wonder whether the reason you gave for declining the request conforms to WP:CIV. I am obviously not disputing the block or the unblock request decline. ISTB351 (talk) 21:09, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I have rather limited patience for those kinds of games, and this isn't the first time Shakinglord has tried that tactic on us. Polite messages don't seem to have gotten the message across, so I wanted (as a one-off experiment) to see if something a bit stronger would work. Not something I plan on doing much, but I I wanted to see what would happen. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:13, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. The user appears to have contravened WP:SOCK and has flagrantly contravened WP:NLT. If this is an example of lta, then the exceptional course taken seems fully justified under the circumstances. My apologies. ISTB351 (talk) 21:17, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

No problem; I never have any hesitation discussing my admin actions. I'm always happy to reexamine things on request. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:20, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Query

I'm having difficulty following your latest comment on AE regarding the post started by Gatoclass. Are you saying there that I have been blatantly pushing to misrepresent sources and information or that, perhaps, you see the problem with Gatoclass lack of collaborative effort and use of AE as a weapon?

If you believe the first, then I am having difficulty following how you've come to that conclusion following my latest explanations - and extra input on the chain of events between May 2011 and Feb 2012 here .

Regards, Jaakobou 00:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

What I mean is that I'm a bit unsure of what to do next; I'm thinking on it. While I saw and read your explanations (which is why I'm definitely not pushing for an indef ban), I'm also somewhat sympathetic to Tim's view that something's not quite right; it may not be intentional, but something still isn't sitting right. Give me until tomorrow; you got me right in the middle of trying to figure out the maze at SPI (on an unrelated topic), so I'll approach things sometime tomorrow and give you my full take on it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:00, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I really don't understand why I'm being treated like a troublesome editor here considering I've already corrected my only error, which was restoring the wrong version after not looking at the page since May 2011. The something which is not right here is that (a) Gatoclass portrays my phrasing as if it is hyperbolic, prejudicial, and intentionally misleading, when it is not, and (b) that Palestinian Media Watch is being falsely portrayed as a non-reliable source by a few politically motivated editors. That Senator Hillary Clinton and a multitude of mainstream media publications consider them reliable is enough of a counter argument. Lastly, I am being attacked on a personal level with, among others, the allegation that I plan to edit war?! The basis for the claim is what exactly? A single diff presented by an editor who was already blocked due to edit warring on that page.

Any result which will not address the last patently false allegation, will be a gross miscarriage.

Cordially, Jaakobou 08:05, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

See also: - Jaakobou 23:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Austereraj SPI

I think your "dammit duplicate" may have been misguided. Would you care to review? I, too, am mightily confused at the moment! - Sitush (talk) 01:01, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I think what happened is JanetteDoe filed an SPI, and without looking I filed one of my own accord. I've moved my statement in with the original one; if something's wrong, someone more familiar with the procedures there can sort it out, as I think I've made enough of a mess for one day. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:04, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. You can make your own mind up which of your sentences I am agreeing with. <g> I got an edit conflict at 3RRNB recently, reporting the same person. Now that is a bummer, because setting the thing up is darn near as slow as doing a merge proposal ... and to then find that someone has got there a few seconds earlier. Arggh. - Sitush (talk) 01:11, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Ugh; I hear you. I'll quietly go and whack myself with a few trouts now. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Sorry about all the confusion, Too many brewers spoil the beer etc. I need one, and I offer you one. Sitush (talk) 01:21, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and one right back at you! I actually just cracked open my last bottle of 麒麟一番 (Kirin Ichiban; not easy to get here in the US, but great stuff), so it was well timed. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:27, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, you can raise a toast to this image. What do we do? - Sitush (talk) 01:41, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh god, where do we even start? The citation needed template next to the caption pretty much says it all. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'll delete the image from the article now - promotional, no obvious relevance and inserted by a known spammer. I'd still rather that the thing was deleted from Commons but I guess that the chances of that happening are zero. - Sitush (talk) 01:58, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

If I'm bored in the next few days, I'll open something up over there; I've been trying to get this deleted there for over a month, and I've gotten nowhere. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:02, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

+1. Piece of cake. Which reminds me, Salvio giuliano noted a few hours ago that Cake is protected until 2015. Crumbs! - Sitush (talk) 02:11, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Ouch, must have been a lot of vandalism. Thanks for the comment over there, too; the article was one of the most hilariously bad excuses for a Misplaced Pages article I'd ever read. Right up there with some of the Indian village articles; WP:Articles for deletion/William Andrew Dunckelman (2nd nomination) is a funny read (that was my first AfD nomination too, though I had one MfD before for some equally hilariously unencyclopedic claptrap). Thanks again. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:15, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I am off to bed, having just taken my Tramadol. However, some time tomorrow I must dig a bit deeper. Not regarding that article but rather re: how someone gets to be an admin when their first AfD nom is barely a year ago and they've just admitted to little experience of SPI! Probably, you did a lot of work at NPP etc and, regardless, I can't fault your decision making. Is it in the genes?

Regarding Austereraj, I think that I may have to add some keywords to my occasional searches, eg: I delete refs relating to "joshua project" and to "jatland.com", to "ram swarup joon" and "bhim singh dahiya" periodically (I know exactly which ones count and which do not). I think that I need to add "smt. shanti devi" and "raj kumar yadav" to those periodic searches (the last is awkward but there is a huge difference between the actor and the spammer). None of these catch everything, but they keep a grip on awkward situations. Although I will admit that the joshua project one is a long term job: there are hundreds of the things, despite WP:RSN consensus. Thanks for your help today, and previously. - Sitush (talk) 02:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

You guessed right; I did a lot of NPP (I still do it sometimes, I'd like to do it a bit more) and searching the new user log. That's almost all CSD tagging, which I was very good at. Any chance of getting the links you're talking about on the blacklist, or are they too diverse? Sometimes the blacklist is enough to ward them off, but other times it doesn't seem to be as effective; I'd check myself, but I'm not terribly familiar with how that all works. See you around!! The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:32, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Kana

I am enhancing articles with infobox kana. Please do not revert including my edits about the infobox. Double check first, please! --Octra Bond (talk) 17:51, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

You also rollbacked my correction about Shi article too... Don't do that again. --Octra Bond (talk) 18:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I was trying to remove some completely unrelated edits by IPs, and I can only use blunt-force instruments from my iPhone; I was intending to clean all of it up later today. Relax. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:27, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

That's all right. I just finished recovering my info back. You should have manually checked between versions before using your tools (Iphone is not hard to do.) --Octra Bond (talk) 18:35, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. IPs have been plaguing these articles since August, and I find it extremely frustrating, so I got a little... overzealus. Thanks again. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:44, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Advice

Thank you for your intervention. You wrote: "There are several people currently warring on that article (Martinevans123 is also at, but not over, 3RR)". I am, therefore, one of those guilty of edit warring? I had thought 3RR was there to stop people edit warring. Do you not agree that the edits of that other editor were contentiuos? I was trying to be as reasonable as possible. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:00, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

It was only a statement of fact; you had 3 reverts. I entirely agree the edits you were reverting were contentious, which is why I didn't give you a warning. Having 3 reverts isn't a problem, so I didn't think I needed to warn you. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

OK. No, I didn't think I needed a warning either. I misunderstood the parentheses, without any full stop, to mean I was an example, and thus a bad example. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

No problem; glad I was able to clarify things. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:22, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey Blade -- nice haircut!

EEng (talk) 21:32, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

It was getting to the point that it was taking a long time to load; I archive my talkpage whenever I feel like it's gotten a bit long. Good luck trying to get me to cut my hair IRL, though... shoulder-length and still growing. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:39, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit protection removal request

Can you please remove the protection on Hyderabad, India? The article is in peer review and needs to be unprotected. The matter of dispute is being discussed in the talk page. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 22:42, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I see discussion, but I don't see anything like a definitive resolution. The protection will expire In ~18 hours anyways, so there's not much harm that can come I waiting a a little; I don't want to start handing out blocks, which is what I'll have to do if warring resumes there. If you want another admin to look at it, put in a request at WP:RfPP. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:04, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I did not know the protection is going to expire within a few hours. Of course there is no harm in waiting some more hours. Thanks for answering. Regards :) --Dwaipayan (talk) 23:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

No problem; for future reference, to see how long a page is protected go to the history tab and click the "View logs for this page" button. The protection length will be there. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:50, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, that's a good tip. Thank you. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 00:52, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome; glad to help. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:53, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

BLP unreferenced

Hello, The Blade of the Northern Lights. I noticed you removed the BLP unreferenced tag from Rawlins Cross. Musicians and Musical groups are both considered BLP's. That's why both are bannered with the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Musicians on the article talk page. The Unreferenced BLPs taskforce wants them tagged that way. Can you replace the ones you've removed? Thanks Argolin (talk) 07:46, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for blocking that editor whose behavior up with we should not have to---and thanks to you we do not have to---put.

:)

Cheers,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:01, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem; as AE goes, that's as open and shut as they come. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 11:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Austereraj: the return

I am sure that Austereraj is back, using multiple IPs + a new registered name:

• User:117.225.210.42
• User:117.225.174.246
• User:Researchfir
• User:117.225.234.60
• User:117.225.168.166

I am reverting mainly on the grounds that the images are unsuitable. One is just crap and the other is a clear derivative of an image uploaded previously by Austereraj but without the appropriate annotation to indicate its derivative nature. The articles in question are, at present, Ram Phal Hooda, C. P. Sheoran, Smt. Shanti Devi School of Nursing and Smt. Shanti Devi College of Management & Technology. - Sitush (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh wonderful. I'll block the most recently used IP and the account, and zap his upload. If he keeps up, I'll semiprotect whatever he touches for extended periods of time. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The above four articles are now semiprotected for 2 weeks; that should help things, if not completely resolve them. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. See you in a fortnight! <g> - Sitush (talk) 18:27, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

IP is back at Rajus

The protection has expired at Rajus and one of the IP editors is back with uncited stories of a glorious past. Request semi-protection, again. JanetteDoe (talk) 17:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

You got it; this time for a month. I'm thinking about whether or not to block the IP for edit warring as well. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:20, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

If you want to remove the unsourced couple of paragraphs the IP seems intent on forcing in, I wouldn't consider it edit warring; removing overtly promotional, unsourced material doesn't count in my book. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2012

		The Admin's Barnstar
		Thank you so much for volunteering to coordinate this. I know you guys will do a great job. The RFC has been moved out of my sandbox to the location in the header and is awaiting any tweaks the coordinators would like to make to it before going live. Thanks again! Beeblebrox (talk) 17:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Hopefully I won't make things any worse. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

YOU DELETED MY DJ BONICS PAGE, WHY!?

My brother is DJ BONICS and he asked me to make a Misplaced Pages page for him. it seems like you deleted my post, but why? i understand i am new here. but i was not shamelessly promoting him or a band. it was pure facts. He is a famous radio personality in pittsburgh and is the main tour DJ for grammy nominated hip hop artist Wiz Khalifa. i provided references with valid links to major articles written about DJ BONICS.

Please explain in detail what went wrong? why did you delete my post? and how can i make a new page with out it getting deleted?

thank you for your time

RehabNYC (talk) 07:23, 29 February 2012 (UTC)RehabNYC.

(Talk-page stalker) Probably there wasn't enough notability. Dipankan 09:42, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)To be honest, I actually agree with RehabNYC. While that article had some formatting problems and wasn't neutral, on a quick look I think it might even pass WP:GNG, and certainly (for me) passes A7. Note, in particular, This article in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and this one in the Pittsburgh City Paper; there were 2 more, but they were more borderline. It also contains what I read as claims of importance, like being the top night DJ in a local market and nationally touring with another notable artist. I'm not going to guarantee the person is notable, but it seems close enough that it should have a full AfD if that seems necessary. Qwyrxian (talk) 11:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Procedural decline

I don't think anyone needs to take File:Promises JM.jpg‎ and File:Jayne Mansfield and Tommy Noonan in Promises Promises.jpg to FFD. These two orphaned non-free images are going to get deleted anyways. As the original uploader I just wanted to speed it up. Since the bureaucratic practices would have it in a round about way, I'll leave it at that. Cheers. Aditya 08:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)