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* '''Merge and redirect''' to ] I think. I'll look for coverage. ] 20:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC) An hour was devoted to testimony from the "commission" October 24, 2005 on ] and it was briefly reported on again on January 11 2006. I can add that to the article, but I'll look for some other references. ] 21:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)) The conservative ] reported on it on January 11 also. The ] reported on it Jan 30. I'm supposing blog coverage, websites, and newsletters doen't count even if they are apparently notable ones like ], ], ] and ]? ] 22:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC) * '''Merge and redirect''' to ] I think. I'll look for coverage. ] 20:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC) An hour was devoted to testimony from the "commission" October 24, 2005 on ] and it was briefly reported on again on January 11 2006. I can add that to the article, but I'll look for some other references. ] 21:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)) The conservative ] reported on it on January 11 also. The ] reported on it Jan 30. I'm supposing blog coverage, websites, and newsletters doen't count even if they are apparently notable ones like ], ], ] and ]? ] 22:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect''' per above. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC) *'''Merge and redirect''' per above. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Merge'''. The fact that it's not a "formal commission" is immaterial, the question should be notability, and the article should be backed up with mainstream media coverage. Since there seems to be an article for the parent organization, it can go there unless notability is substanted with such references. I did find a ] article but I'd need to see more coverage before I could vote keep. ] 20:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC) *<s>'''Merge'''.</s> The fact that it's not a "formal commission" is immaterial, the question should be notability, and the article should be backed up with mainstream media coverage. Since there seems to be an article for the parent organization, it can go there unless notability is substanted with such references. I did find a ] article but I'd need to see more coverage before I could vote keep. ] 20:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
:Changing my vote to '''keep''' due to coverage from Newsday, the NY Observer, and Democracy Now. ] 03:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''keep''': A number of organizations collaborated to put the Bush Crimes Commission together. The high ranking officials and well known activists and organizations which participated evidence both great notability and the broad range of alleged crimes being scrutinized, a job which the lobbyist plagued US legislatures have been unable to perform. It is interesting that this sort of whitewashing is portrayed as propaganda, and this AfD proposed, on a week when the asleep-at-the-wheel media establishment is finally beginning to report on propaganda and ploys orchestrated by the Bush Administration, such as the intentional 'leak' of classified documents aimed at discrediting ]'s husband; the fact that the Administration had just received, claissified and shelved a report dismissing the possibility that two small trailers alleged to be WMD equipment, yet went ahead days later claiming to have found their justification for 'preemptive war'; and that the top GOP election official for New England has been shown to have communicated frequently with the White House during the vote fraud campaign in 2004 that secured another term in office for Bush, an outcome that was even more clearly the result of full press, across the board systemating undermining of the voting system, which produced obviously fabricated results in each of the last two presidential election cycles. This AfD is just a matter of gaming the system and an attempt to impose upon the Wiki the same propagandistic mindset that has corrupted mass media in the US. ] 21:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC) *'''keep''': A number of organizations collaborated to put the Bush Crimes Commission together. The high ranking officials and well known activists and organizations which participated evidence both great notability and the broad range of alleged crimes being scrutinized, a job which the lobbyist plagued US legislatures have been unable to perform. It is interesting that this sort of whitewashing is portrayed as propaganda, and this AfD proposed, on a week when the asleep-at-the-wheel media establishment is finally beginning to report on propaganda and ploys orchestrated by the Bush Administration, such as the intentional 'leak' of classified documents aimed at discrediting ]'s husband; the fact that the Administration had just received, claissified and shelved a report dismissing the possibility that two small trailers alleged to be WMD equipment, yet went ahead days later claiming to have found their justification for 'preemptive war'; and that the top GOP election official for New England has been shown to have communicated frequently with the White House during the vote fraud campaign in 2004 that secured another term in office for Bush, an outcome that was even more clearly the result of full press, across the board systemating undermining of the voting system, which produced obviously fabricated results in each of the last two presidential election cycles. This AfD is just a matter of gaming the system and an attempt to impose upon the Wiki the same propagandistic mindset that has corrupted mass media in the US. ] 21:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Merge'''. Has minimal relevance, but relevance none the less. not significant enough to stand alone as a wikipedia entry, but would make a perfect subtopic to other pages. ] 22:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC) *'''Merge'''. Has minimal relevance, but relevance none the less. not significant enough to stand alone as a wikipedia entry, but would make a perfect subtopic to other pages. ] 22:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

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Bush Crimes Commission

Changing my vote to keep due to coverage from Newsday, the NY Observer, and Democracy Now. Gamaliel 03:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • keep: A number of organizations collaborated to put the Bush Crimes Commission together. The high ranking officials and well known activists and organizations which participated evidence both great notability and the broad range of alleged crimes being scrutinized, a job which the lobbyist plagued US legislatures have been unable to perform. It is interesting that this sort of whitewashing is portrayed as propaganda, and this AfD proposed, on a week when the asleep-at-the-wheel media establishment is finally beginning to report on propaganda and ploys orchestrated by the Bush Administration, such as the intentional 'leak' of classified documents aimed at discrediting Valerie Plame's husband; the fact that the Administration had just received, claissified and shelved a report dismissing the possibility that two small trailers alleged to be WMD equipment, yet went ahead days later claiming to have found their justification for 'preemptive war'; and that the top GOP election official for New England has been shown to have communicated frequently with the White House during the vote fraud campaign in 2004 that secured another term in office for Bush, an outcome that was even more clearly the result of full press, across the board systemating undermining of the voting system, which produced obviously fabricated results in each of the last two presidential election cycles. This AfD is just a matter of gaming the system and an attempt to impose upon the Wiki the same propagandistic mindset that has corrupted mass media in the US. Ombudsman 21:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge. Has minimal relevance, but relevance none the less. not significant enough to stand alone as a wikipedia entry, but would make a perfect subtopic to other pages. Anthonymendoza 22:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge if we must. Just zis Guy you know? 22:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  • STRONG DELETE Irrelevant and too obscure to deserve attention in an encyclopaedia. I'm heavily into politics, especially with this being an election year, and I've never heard of this. Although, I would agree that "not being a formal commission" is not a good enough reason to delete, there are plenty of other reasons. It's clearly trivial.--WilliamThweatt 22:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete I am not a particular fan of Dubya, but this is nn political soapboxing IMHO.Bridesmill 00:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge. The introduction makes it clear that it isn't an official commission. I think this will at best be a footnote in history. However, it happened so I think we need to preserve it for the record. Bubba73 (talk), 00:05, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
comment: I don't think I had ever read this article before I was asked to vote on it (but I have heard of the subject). I read the article and the comments here before voting, but I don't feel very strongly about it one way or the other. Bubba73 (talk), 01:21, 13 April 2006 (UTC)