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| :*Its more than his dob he's complaining about on his radio show and on twitter , its cyber-bullying and the articles continuing existence. <font color="purple">]</font><font color="orange">really</font><font color="red">]</font> 22:28, 21 March 2012 (UTC) | :*Its more than his dob he's complaining about on his radio show and on twitter , its cyber-bullying and the articles continuing existence. <font color="purple">]</font><font color="orange">really</font><font color="red">]</font> 22:28, 21 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Delete'''. I don't see how an article on Hawkins meets ] guidelines. The article is sourced almost entirely from the BBC - his employer - and other primary sources. And with all due respect to the people of Shropshire, I fail to see why an article about one of their radio presenters is either necessary, or even educational. It is little more than a stub/resumé, in any case. ] (]) 21:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC) | *'''Delete'''. I don't see how an article on Hawkins meets ] guidelines. The article is sourced almost entirely from the BBC - his employer - and other primary sources. And with all due respect to the people of Shropshire, I fail to see why an article about one of their radio presenters is either necessary, or even educational. It is little more than a stub/resumé, in any case. ] (]) 21:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Delete'''. As the original (anonymous) creator of the article, I saw Jim's inclusion as a recognition of his genuinely strong presence in and involvement in the Shropshire community. He is an iconic and well-loved figure. However, I am appalled to learn of the continuous harassment he has suffered at the hands of a few persistent editors, and I think that it would best to remove this vehicle for what |
*'''Delete'''. As the original (anonymous) creator of the article, I saw Jim's inclusion as a recognition of his genuinely strong presence in and involvement in the Shropshire community. He is an iconic and well-loved figure. However, I am appalled to learn of the continuous harassment he has suffered at the hands of a few persistent editors, and I think that it would best to remove this vehicle for what Jim perceives as online bullying. We have badly fumbled the ball on this, even after Jimbo himself felt moved to intervene. --] (]) 22:32, 21 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
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Afternoon Radio presenter of limited note - The subject is clearly very very upset about the articles existence and has been complaining for quite some time now, he is posting about it on twitter and has posted one I read in which he comments how our articles existence has detrimentally affected his health - ( I won't post diffs here but they are available at the WP:BLPN thread.) - imo and for the benefit of the subject and the very limited loss the biography would be to the projects mission - we can and should delete this article. - Youreallycan 21:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - The article is compliant to WP:BLP. Subject has been a presenter on a BBC Radio 4 programme (i.e. a national station, not merely a local station), and has won a major award. Notability, once attained, does not diminish. This is a control issue more than anything. Because the subject of the article cannot control what is in it, he wants it deleted. Misplaced Pages does not allow subject of articles to say whether or not they get an article (q.v. Sally Boazman). The subject does not want his actual d.o.b. in the article, despite the fact that he freely gives this info out every year when his birthday comes round. Misplaced Pages has granted him this concession, and his d.o.b. is not mentioned, only the year. I appreciate that one editor in particular wants this info in the article, but I'd advise that editor to drop the WP:STICK over this issue. Mjroots (talk) 21:56, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- Its more than his dob he's complaining about on his radio show and on twitter , its cyber-bullying and the articles continuing existence. Youreallycan 22:28, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- Delete. I don't see how an article on Hawkins meets Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) guidelines. The article is sourced almost entirely from the BBC - his employer - and other primary sources. And with all due respect to the people of Shropshire, I fail to see why an article about one of their radio presenters is either necessary, or even educational. It is little more than a stub/resumé, in any case. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
- Delete. As the original (anonymous) creator of the article, I saw Jim's inclusion as a recognition of his genuinely strong presence in and involvement in the Shropshire community. He is an iconic and well-loved figure. However, I am appalled to learn of the continuous harassment he has suffered at the hands of a few persistent editors, and I think that it would best to remove this vehicle for what Jim perceives as online bullying. We have badly fumbled the ball on this, even after Jimbo himself felt moved to intervene. --Pete (talk) 22:32, 21 March 2012 (UTC)