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::If this is a serious question, you have no business stepping on my toes. Misplaced Pages, or any piece of writing, is not supposed to be a collection of every single piece of information in the world. (I imagine you don't have a biography on Misplaced Pages, even if the facts of your life are "correct".) Irrelevant and minor points can and should be omitted, especially, as is the case here, when there are daughter articles (e.g. ]) that can contain this information in more depth. -- ''']''' 13:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC) ::If this is a serious question, you have no business stepping on my toes. Misplaced Pages, or any piece of writing, is not supposed to be a collection of every single piece of information in the world. (I imagine you don't have a biography on Misplaced Pages, even if the facts of your life are "correct".) Irrelevant and minor points can and should be omitted, especially, as is the case here, when there are daughter articles (e.g. ]) that can contain this information in more depth. -- ''']''' 13:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

:::At least I'm an Istanbulite. Son of an Istanbulite. Grandson of an Istanbulite. Great-grandson of an Istanbulite. I know my city and its history very, very well. From its wide avenues to its narrow side streets, from its historic buildings to its modern ones. ] (]) 13:52, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

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Turkey

  • According to CIA, ethnic Turkish people: %70-%75.
  • According to Milliyet, about %76 (Toplam 73 milyon olan nüfusun 55 milyon 484 bini etnik olarak Türk = 55,484,000/73,000,000)

Takabeg (talk) 03:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Çünkü bazı salaklar "Türk" yerine "Müslüman Türk" demişler ve ayrı bir kategoriye konmuşlar. Bazıları "Türkiye vatandaşı" demekle yetinmişler (ki onları Türklere eklemedim.) Namuslu (talk) 03:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Bazıları "Alevi" demişler ki, Türk mü, Kürt mü, Zaza mı belli değil. Aslında Konda'nın hatası. Namuslu (talk) 03:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Millyet (KONDA) said Türklerin yüzde 76.03 ile 55 milyon 484 bin, Kürt ve Zazaların yüzde 15.68 ile 11 milyon 445 bin, diğer etnik gruplar toplamının da yüzde 8.3 ile 6 milyon 46 bin kişi olduğu hesaplandı.
Ethnic Turkish: 76.03 (regardless of their religions), Kurdish people + Zazas: 15.68. Takabeg (talk) 03:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Bana sorarsan Konda yüzüne gözüne bulaştırmış, ama yine de sen bilirsin. "%70 Türk" çok az bir rakam (kesinlikle gerçekçi değil.) Namuslu (talk) 04:28, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
76.03 + 15.68 = 91.71. Who are the remaining 8.29%, especially when the Arabs are only 0.75% of the population? Namuslu (talk) 04:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
The Roma are only 0.03%. Arabs + Roma = 0.78%. How do you fill in the rest of 8.29%? Namuslu (talk) 04:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Milliyet linkinin altındaki yüzdeler tablosuna bakmamışsın anlaşılan, orada Türkler için 82-79% diyor Konda. Namuslu (talk) 04:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I think the most realistic and complete graph is the one based on "mother tongue" in the same Milliyet link. Click on this graph Namuslu (talk) 04:48, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

When you want to use "Based on mother tongue", you must link not to Turkish people but Turkish language. But I don't think that your edits would be accepted by community. Because in infobox the term ethnic groups. I recommend you to explain situation of mother tongues in the section of languages. Because if community wouldn't accept your edits based only on your own POV, all of your efforts will be able to go down the drain. See you. Takabeg (talk) 05:53, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Help

I hope you can contribute to the ongoing discussion on Talk:Chepni Turks. This user's behaviour is not understandable, despite I had sources about naming Chepni Turks as Chepni Turks (which is scientific name for this Oğuz clan) he/she insists on reverting it. İyi günler dilerim. -F.Mehmet (talk) 14:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Maps

Hi, Namuslu. Please read File talk:OttomanEmpireIn1683.png, Talk:Ottoman Empire. If we are namuslu, we have to use accurate maps, because here is an encyclopedia. And I recommend you to use talk pages. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 00:51, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

How about adding the inner parts of Sudan (part of the Ottoman Khedivate), and Aceh as a "tributary state", rather than creating a storm over a tiny coastline of Croatia and Circassia. I think the map is actually "modest". Pire için yorgan yakmak. Dudu bulup kıllısını aramak. Namuslu (talk) 10:24, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Actually I looked at the map more carefully and saw that the Dalmatian coast of Croatia (which belonged to the Republic of Venice) is not included (only a part of the coast of Slovenia to the north is included - and Slovenia was briefly held by the Turks during the Second Siege of Vienna (1683) and the Great Turkish War.) A section of Circassia's Black Sea coast indeed belonged to the Ottomans. The map is "as accurate as it gets" (I'm sure with more accuracy than many other maps in Misplaced Pages.) We could actually add the sieges of Otranto, Nice, the Balearic Islands, the mission to Aceh (tributary state), inner parts of Sudan, etc... Namuslu (talk) 10:36, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Kamâl Atatürk

Please read Talk:Mustafa Kemal Atatürk#Kamâl Atatürk and stop POV pushing edits. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 00:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I thought you were Turkish, obviously you're not. The Arabic form "Kamal" has never been used by the Turks, not even in the Ottoman period. The sole Turkish form of this name has always been "Kemal". Namuslu (talk) 00:48, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

FAR

I have nominated Turkey for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 14:00, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

I think it's a fairly good article with accurate information. Namuslu (talk) 06:11, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

December 2011

Your recent editing history at Ottoman Empire shows that you are in danger of breaking the three-revert rule, or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a block.

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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did at Template:Largest cities in Turkey. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Could you please stop pushing Elâzığ. That town has only 331,479 inhabitants, not the 748,158 according to your version. Night of the Big Wind talk 00:03, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I have never edited the Elazığ article, neither anonymously nor with this name. Namuslu (talk) 23:39, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
I was referring to your changes at the Template:Largest cities in Turkey where you more then doubled the size of Elazığ by reverting the edit of the anon. Night of the Big Wind talk 00:37, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. Namuslu (talk) 00:38, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

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Turkish Armed Forces

Hi Namuslu. I'm a Kiwi wikipedian who keeps an eye on a wide range of armed forces articles worldwide across Misplaced Pages. I really appreciate your recent series of edits to the TAF article, including your frequent addition of references including from the IISS. However in this edit, you appeared to remove sourced data about the TAF, originating from The Economist, what we would consider as a WP:Reliable Source. Would you be able to explain to me why you made this edit? Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 23:14, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

My apologies - I've just reread your edit summary and seen that you thought it was misplaced. I'm going to move it to the military-in-politics section, but you may be able to advise me better, and maybe it should be added at Deep state. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 23:16, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Also just wanted to thank you for this edit re nuclear sharing and the weapons at Incirlik. Would you consider writing a paragraph on the resignations crisis? - it's really important, but User:Takabeg was not actually able to when I asked him about it. Buckshot06 (talk) 23:28, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for honouring me with your kind invitation. I will gladly give a hand as much as I can. Namuslu (talk) 18:47, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Great thanks, just make sure you add the project talk page to your watchlist. There have been plenty of empty threads lately. Uhlan 20:14, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
P.S. Make sure you add your signature to this list: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Ottoman Empire/Participants . Uhlan 00:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
I will do it as soon as I can. Thank you very much. Namuslu (talk) 23:57, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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Are you happy now?

There is now a section at Talk:Istanbul on the Demographics section (Talk:Istanbul#Demographics_section). I expect you to just ignore me, but maybe you'll have enough decency to read it and actually put into words what you object to (if anything at all). -- tariqabjotu 12:54, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

What's the point of deleting correct information? Namuslu (talk) 12:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
If this is a serious question, you have no business stepping on my toes. Misplaced Pages, or any piece of writing, is not supposed to be a collection of every single piece of information in the world. (I imagine you don't have a biography on Misplaced Pages, even if the facts of your life are "correct".) Irrelevant and minor points can and should be omitted, especially, as is the case here, when there are daughter articles (e.g. Religion in Istanbul) that can contain this information in more depth. -- tariqabjotu 13:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
At least I'm an Istanbulite. Son of an Istanbulite. Grandson of an Istanbulite. Great-grandson of an Istanbulite. I know my city and its history very, very well. From its wide avenues to its narrow side streets, from its historic buildings to its modern ones. Namuslu (talk) 13:52, 27 March 2012 (UTC)