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CVR transcript on Tenerife page

I re-added the CVR transcript. This time, I deleted several lines that were not particularly relevant, and tweaked the language to read out exactly as typed in the Spanish report. You are incorrect to say, "I know where you got the cockpit chatter from, it was the show 'Crash of the Century'." That's not what I used originally, although I have seen that docudrama. I used the Spanish report as a basis, but included other statements backed up by other sources. Also note that the Spanish report includes a CVR transcript, but this transcript is incomplete, since it is built from the Pan Am cockpit. Some statements, such as Meurs's "Wait a minute, we don't have an ATC clearance," are described only in the text of the report. Others, such as Grubbs's shouts when he saw PH-BUF, are only alluded to, as in this statement from the report: "Amidst logical exclamations of alarm they accelerated in order to try to get off the runway, but the collision was already inevitable." Other sources spell out what was said. At any rate, I put all the sources consulted at the top of the section. Some statements, such as the discussion on N736PA's flight deck about the KLM being hurried, are described by multiple sources, but without precise timestamps. It's clear from the descriptions of them only that they occurred after the ATC clearance, but before seeing PH-BUF.

So, I would respectfully say that I have addressed your concern about accuracy. Your statement that "You're addition to the page on the disaster involving the communications between KLM, Pan Am, and the tower, were very different than what was actually said," is not, so far as I can tell, borne out by the sources I consulted. If you think that a specific statement is questionable, I would urge that you use a tag to show from whence it came, though I'm 99% sure that everything there is now in full accord with the cited sources. Thank you, though, for drawing attention to the need to perform a bit of housekeeping on this section! Sacxpert (talk) 09:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your edit on Malév Hungarian Airlines

Hi,

Although there were TWO warnings saying that "is an airline" shouldn't be changed into "was an airline", you changed it and removed the warning. Please read the sentence carefully, and ask if you don't know: Malév *is* an airline that *has been* operating.

Slasher-fun (talk) 20:11, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I-95 in Florida

Thank you for finding and inserting a url for a link in I-95 in Florida article. I changed this to a permanent link since the NY Times eventually becomes archived and can't be read by readers. Some people might call this a "dead" (unavailable) link at this point and request another link which, by then, usually isn't available online. Removal of the url at that time, allows the citation to remain there permanently since it is hard copy. Student7 (talk) 13:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Your edit is fine but just to let you know, the NYT has an open archive for articles back to 1980(?). Most newspapers do archive their stories, but the NYT is an exception in that it allows access to stories for a much longer time span. I use the Times frequently for articles after the death of a notable person.- William 13:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I saw you had been around awhile, so I was wondering. Thanks for the update. Student7 (talk) 13:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

AfD and PROD notifications

Hi William. Back in December, you got either an AfD or PROD notification, and it was during one of the template testing project's experiments. If you could go here and leave us some feedback about what you think about the new versions of the templates we tested (there are links to the templates), that would be very useful. (You can also email me at swallingwikimedia.org if you want.) Thanks! Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 01:41, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Matata Ponyo Mapon

You are right...I've reverted the article to the version where he's still alive.-Kiwipat (talk) 20:36, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Notice of discussion

I've started a discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Golf#Older PGA Tour events about older PGA Tour events. Please refrain from editing out older PGA Tour events until a consensus is reached on how to deal with these events. Tewapack (talk) 14:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Survivors redirects

Just for information I have raised some of survivor redirects at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 March 25. MilborneOne (talk) 17:00, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Smile!

A smile for you You’ve just received a random act of kindness! 66.87.0.137 (talk) 13:40, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Reply

I checked everything you wrote in your last message, and for all but one (the Scott Simpson one) the research I used, including the USGA history of the event, agrees with what I wrote. So it appears that you have wrong information, not me. Compy90 (talk) 19:30, 6 April 2012 (UTC)