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| I think I've clarified the relationship between Valian and other years, but I'm still not sure whether the Years of the Lamps and the Years of the Trees are the same length as a Valian Year. I seem to remember something about the Years of the Trees being shorter than the Years of the Lamps, but I may be misremembering. Was the definition of a Valian Year changed to fit that of the Years of the Lamps, and then to fit that of the Years of the Trees, or was a Valian Year always different from these other two? If the former, then "Years of the Lamps" and "Years of the Trees" would be types of Valian Years, in a way that "Years of the Sun" have never been. If the latter, then Valian Years are just a different way to define a year, as I've said. But further clarification and references would be good. ] 09:59, 16 April 2006 (UTC) | I think I've clarified the relationship between Valian and other years, but I'm still not sure whether the Years of the Lamps and the Years of the Trees are the same length as a Valian Year. I seem to remember something about the Years of the Trees being shorter than the Years of the Lamps, but I may be misremembering. Was the definition of a Valian Year changed to fit that of the Years of the Lamps, and then to fit that of the Years of the Trees, or was a Valian Year always different from these other two? If the former, then "Years of the Lamps" and "Years of the Trees" would be types of Valian Years, in a way that "Years of the Sun" have never been. If the latter, then Valian Years are just a different way to define a year, as I've said. But further clarification and references would be good. ] 09:59, 16 April 2006 (UTC) | ||
| ==Duration of a Valian Year== | |||
| I think that the article is wrong when stating that there were "approximately 9.58 solar years in each Valian year". There are several indicators for this: | |||
| According to the (which is linked in the Extenal links section of the article) 9.58 solar years was the duration of a Year of the Trees. | |||
| Earlier versions of this article (until 6 March 2006) say that a Valian year was 1.4 years (I think "years" refers to solar years). | |||
| The Article ], which gives dates in Valian Years, says that the Crossing of Helcaraxë took three years (4997-5000). According to the current version of this article this would be 29 Years of the Sun. I think this is far too long.--] 19:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Clarified relationship between Valian and other years
I think I've clarified the relationship between Valian and other years, but I'm still not sure whether the Years of the Lamps and the Years of the Trees are the same length as a Valian Year. I seem to remember something about the Years of the Trees being shorter than the Years of the Lamps, but I may be misremembering. Was the definition of a Valian Year changed to fit that of the Years of the Lamps, and then to fit that of the Years of the Trees, or was a Valian Year always different from these other two? If the former, then "Years of the Lamps" and "Years of the Trees" would be types of Valian Years, in a way that "Years of the Sun" have never been. If the latter, then Valian Years are just a different way to define a year, as I've said. But further clarification and references would be good. Carcharoth 09:59, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Duration of a Valian Year
I think that the article is wrong when stating that there were "approximately 9.58 solar years in each Valian year". There are several indicators for this:
According to the Annlas of Arda (which is linked in the Extenal links section of the article) 9.58 solar years was the duration of a Year of the Trees.
Earlier versions of this article (until 6 March 2006) say that a Valian year was 1.4 years (I think "years" refers to solar years).
The Article Timeline of Arda, which gives dates in Valian Years, says that the Crossing of Helcaraxë took three years (4997-5000). According to the current version of this article this would be 29 Years of the Sun. I think this is far too long.--Galadh 19:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)