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:: I had requested specifically a source stating sultan abubaker is somali sort of like the ] source which states his clan..but your incorrect adal and ifat were not arabized somali or somalized arabs although some of the leaders like emir nur were somali even imam ahmed's ethnicity is disputed..on walashma some sources say hadiya founded them in the shewa region so therefore is disputed its better to just leave it as it is. ] (]) 22:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
:: I had requested specifically a source stating sultan abubaker is somali sort of like the ] source which states his clan..but your incorrect adal and ifat were not arabized somali or somalized arabs although some of the leaders like emir nur were somali even imam ahmed's ethnicity is disputed..on walashma some sources say hadiya founded them in the shewa region so therefore is disputed its better to just leave it as it is. ] (]) 22:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
:You are trying to say that the sources I gave were incorrect? You are making an original research. Do you have any sources wich states that Adal and Ifat were not ruled and inhabitated by Somali-Arabs? Because I have it and if you want it to read just scroll up. You like to say the word 'dispute' but its not. There are always people saying the opposite, but the mainstraim historians see Ahmad Al ghazi as a Somali. '''You have sources wich states that Walashama was founded by a man in Shewa'''? That would be interesting, because it's accepted that the dynasty was founded by Umar Walashma, an Arab immigrant from Arabia. You are plain denying the facts, just read the sources again, but slowly and try to be neutral. Neutrality is a fundamental rule of Misplaced Pages, you cant be chauvinistic. These sources are clarifying the fact that the rulers of Ifat and Adal were Somali-Arabs. If you think not, could you '''show me sources that states that the rulers were not Somali-Arabs?'''Regards. ] (]) 14:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
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"The Abyssinian king (negus) Yeshaq (1414-1429) expanded his kingdom's political and commercial interests into the trade routes and domains of the Somali Kingdom of Ifat, centered in Zeila."-Somalia: background information for Operation Restore Hope, 1992-93, page 16
"The rulers of Somalia found help from the Yemenite king and soon founded, in the region of Harer (in eastern Ethiopia), the Adal Sultanate.-The encyclopedia of Christianity: Volume 5 - Page 117
The first source states that the Ifat Sultanate, wich was founded by the Walashama dynasty, was Somali. And the second one imply that the Adal Sultanate was founded with the help of the Yemenite king, and the Adal Sultanate was ruled by the remnants of the Walashama dynasty. I have an other source for you, showing that Zeila and Ifat were ruled by Somali-Arabs:
"Many centuries of trade relation with Arabia began with the establishment of commercial colonies along the coas by the Himmyrati Kingdom and these eventually developed into two small states of Zeila or Adal in the north and Mogadishu in the south, gradually local dynasties of Somalized Arabs or Arabized Somali ruled.".
Here is an other:
"In due time these converts even established the Muslim sultanates of Ifat, Dawaro, Adal, and dahlak and put pressure on the highland Ethiopian Christians by controlling trade through the main seaports of Suakin, Aydhab, Zeila, and Berbera."-Encyclopedia of Africa south of the Sahara, page 62
But remember I'm not saying that the Sultanates of Ifat and Adal were Somali, but the rulers were Arabized Somali or Somalized Arabs. Runehelmet (talk) 15:41, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I had requested specifically a source stating sultan abubaker is somali sort of like the Nur ibn Mujahid source which states his clan..but your incorrect adal and ifat were not arabized somali or somalized arabs although some of the leaders like emir nur were somali even imam ahmed's ethnicity is disputed..on walashma some sources say hadiya founded them in the shewa region so therefore is disputed its better to just leave it as it is. Baboon43 (talk) 22:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
You are trying to say that the sources I gave were incorrect? You are making an original research. Do you have any sources wich states that Adal and Ifat were not ruled and inhabitated by Somali-Arabs? Because I have it and if you want it to read just scroll up. You like to say the word 'dispute' but its not. There are always people saying the opposite, but the mainstraim historians see Ahmad Al ghazi as a Somali. You have sources wich states that Walashama was founded by a man in Shewa? That would be interesting, because it's accepted that the dynasty was founded by Umar Walashma, an Arab immigrant from Arabia. You are plain denying the facts, just read the sources again, but slowly and try to be neutral. Neutrality is a fundamental rule of Misplaced Pages, you cant be chauvinistic. These sources are clarifying the fact that the rulers of Ifat and Adal were Somali-Arabs. If you think not, could you show me sources that states that the rulers were not Somali-Arabs?Regards. Runehelmet (talk) 14:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
