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Hammer. Nail. Door.

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	Glad to know you. Alarbus (talk) 12:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. It is good to know you too, and good to have my allusions recognized!--Wehwalt (talk) 13:04, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. NB: many miss allusions; pictures help them tag along. Alarbus (talk) 13:08, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for "amore e studio elucidandae", compare "beginning enlightenment" on my user page", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Nice! Well, you have to start somewhere.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I just added on top. And brought "He was despised" back a few days ago, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

That is really nice. And you saw what Alarbus and I are discussing ... I've been meaning to renovate my user page for some time, it's much too boasty right now.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

My personal Liberty Bell (see below): top of my talk :) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

More Luther: Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

How well deserved: your latest FA star for a murdered one! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, he was murdered just like a Shakespearean character ... and by an assassin. I like your Liberty Bell.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:02, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

My latest Man of Sorrows, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:17, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Man of Constant Sorrow -- Dianna (talk) 15:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

For anyone not getting that, they are playing off what my name means in the original German. Perhaps so, but there are joys now and then.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I was referring not to your name but first to the sorrows of others, our sorrows being only the consequence. He was despised, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I changed the dedication to the second to last Man of Sorrows, appr for Good Friday (he doesn't like the colours of the other, not good for the blind, I keep working on it, see Passion on my talk), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I worked on it: it's now a decent black and white. Dona nobis pacem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, also for the Good Words. I will look at it tonight or tomorrow.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:52, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

• Nailin' stuff to doors, are we? So, how many theses are we nailing to the Castle Church door this time? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 11:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

As many as it takes.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:45, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, Luther got excommunicated (as well as all the Lutherans...and the Catholics still won't talk to us today over it) when he nailed his 95 Theses to the Castle Church door in 1517, but meh, why not? :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Luther got banned, that means he could be killed with no punishment for the killer. In Germany, the Catholics talk about it, we call it Ökumene, (see witch hunt, see pic of choir with a singer dressed in pumpkin colour, the Catholic choir sang in the Protestant church Nun bitten wir den Heiligen Geist in Luther's words, Did you know ... that the first stanza of the hymn Nun bitten wir den Heiligen Geist, asking the Holy Spirit for the right faith most of all, is documented in German in the 13th century, and the later three relate to faith, love and hope?), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Lutherans and Catholics have tried many times to get along, even as recently as September 2011, but there are differences that just never seem to get fixed and screw everything up. Some of the US Lutheran denominations are trying on their own to talk to the Vatican and kinda come together and let bygones be bygones. But some think that will never happen, because of those same differences. Oh well. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

That should not stop us from acting on "faith, love and hope" (a little older than denominations), - as said above, you have to start somewhere, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

You did it! To quote you: "Just tellin' it like it is. :)" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Seriously so: Vier ernste Gesänge, did you know ... that Johannes Brahms composed two major works about death inspired by the Luther Bible, his Requiem as a young man, and those, when close to his own death? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Did you know that the writing on faith, love and hope is the text of #4, the culmination? Did you know that the article on the songs says "more" about Kathleen Ferrier than the Main page on her day (22 April)? Compare, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I did review the article as it came through and I regret it did not run with a better blurb.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

So did I. The "blurb" was announced about an hour before it appeared, when the author was probably asleep, and I didn't feel knowledgeable enough to ask for a change. I think such articles should be announced at least two weeks before to the project involved (not just one expert), in this case Classical music, to get the article polished, red links filled, and the blurb written as a decent summary, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, and that time also allows editors to veto their article's main page appearance, rather than scrambling at the last moment, as TTT had to.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:02, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

"Ist nicht des Herrn Wort ... wie ein Hammer?", we heard this and your comment in a staged version in the theater pictured on my user, staged by Jens-Daniel Herzog: when the fire fell, all PC screens went black ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Choir pictured, and more, perhaps I should add to the article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Seems very worthwhile.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:19, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I added a bit, not knowing how to phrase the interaction between the "Masse" (crowd?) and the single man whom they cheer (there actually were cheerleaders! presidential campaign came to mind) but who in the end feels severely misunderstood and leaves the podium, - they keep cheering, not really missing him, - chilling scene. The music was presented intact, complete, and well performed, - I sang it three times, once here, once as a summer sing in English opposite Carnegie Hall, once here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I did not know you had attained such heights. Certainly, the story says something about Misplaced Pages, where we seem to cast out those who do the most, and keep the do-nothings.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Heights in choir, of course. - The story also says "Wer bis an das Ende beharrt, der wird selig" (Matthew 10:22), and I remember the first conductor having us sing the "beharrt" (more active than "endure") section very insisting and heavy on the repeated notes, the upward melody of the other with almost immaterial sound, blessed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Thought about the opening line, "vor dem ich stehe", wondering if it translates more or less to "what I stand for"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Did you know there's a musical connection to "your" president? - Will reform refs, then nominate ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan!--Wehwalt (talk) 22:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Half-way with the refs, nominated, alternative with Mr. President ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Good to go, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Good--Wehwalt (talk) 08:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

New perspective --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:38, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Nice to see another quality article of yours, United States Senate elections in Ohio, 1898,, no, I did not know, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you like it. It was what I could write in the time I had at home before leaving.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:19, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Siegmund

I thought of the name change from Wehwalt to Siegmund when I nominated this (on the Main page now) and added it to my personal memories, remembering Die Walküre, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

That is where my name comes from, specifically from Hunding's call "Wehwalt! Wehwalt!" near the end of Act II. When I took a tour of the Festspielhaus 20 years ago, I sang it quietly to myself from the stage. And I saw it live in Bayreuth in 1990 and 1996 (when I went in 2005, it was a year without a Ring).--Wehwalt (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

A Ring here, a gem there: are you watching a precious article, seeing the latest dramatic news? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I saw, thanks to you. How terrible.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:31, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

For an uplift look at this gallery: Düsseldorf school of painting including a familiar one, artist on the Main page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

How dismal. :)--Wehwalt (talk) 09:41, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

2401 (hits yesterday for the inspirational people under oppressive conditions), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Passion: He was despised --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Easter: eggs and peace --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

And to you. We seem to be getting some article work done amid the drama!--Wehwalt (talk) 12:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing the eggs! - Did you see who also got article work done? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

That is good. I've got books open and ready to go!--Wehwalt (talk) 12:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Article work: Vier ernste Gesänge, more on Kathleen Ferrier than what you could read on the Main page on her day, 22 April, seriously. Not as serious, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy I could unclutter my user once more (leaving "despised" as a comment) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Zhirinovsky's ass

This is entertaining; makes a nice section header, too. Don't miss the talk page, with 3, count'em, 3 requested move discussions. (noticed this on WP:Great Dismal Swamp. Best, Alarbus (talk) 05:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, made my day! (I found out just yesterday that who did that first here did it the day after my first year. I try to follow the example, you know, also makes a nice section header.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Best wishes, Gerda. Buck 11:35, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Happy Easter --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Infobox

I'll look at it this weekend if not tonight. Cheers, – Connormah (talk) 19:00, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Connormah.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:03, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Looks like you got around to straightening it out already. Sorry, was really busy. Nice article BTW. – Connormah (talk) 22:06, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem, thanks for looking. Figured it would still be wise to have you take a glance at it. Thanks, it will never get many page views, but it still boldly expands Misplaced Pages's quality articles to pre-1913 Senate elections. I'm considering doing an article about legislative Senate elections, I think that would be a useful addition.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:09, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

You mean just a general one on US Senate elections? That'd be interesting. – Connormah (talk) 22:41, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

No, on Senate elections before 1913, when it was by the legislature. The Bybee article is very good, there are lots of contemporary sources, and there's probably a fair amount out there.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:46, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar

For your outstanding support and dedication in getting Yogo sapphire from a new article to DYK to GA to FA and FOUR. The team effort of the uncountable people involved in getting this unique article to FA is a textbook case of teamwork in article improvement, ie, what Misplaced Pages should be, not what it all too often is. I can never thank everyone enough. PumpkinSky talk 23:15, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that and welcome back.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:17, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

matching images

• commons:File:John-J.-Lentz-1899-cropped.jpeg
• commons:File:Mckisson-cropped.jpeg

These files "match"

• commons:File:Mark Hanna by WJ Root, 1896 cropped.jpg

I downloaded both originals and cropped them using a selection marquee that had the same xy ratio as the Hanna image. This means that when the three are grouped and sized to whatever, they will all match. I tried to zoom in to about the same degree, too. Compare now with before. The old way had them rendering as different height, and different apparent sizes. Best, Br'er Rabbit (talk) 19:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

That's great. That was a worry to me how they looked and what reviewers would say, but I am not adept with images. Thanks for doing that.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Adobe Creative Suite Master Collection, at your service. Enjoy. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 19:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Avery Brundage FA

On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I would like to thank you for editorial efforts that helped Avery Brundage become a WP:FA.

This user helped promote Avery Brundage to featured article status.

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:28, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you sir! And I thank you for your extensive review which was key to success.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:29, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

1907 Tiflis bank robbery article is currently TFA

I just wanted to thank you again for all of your assistance in helping me get the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery article up to FA status. The article is now being displayed as Today's Featured Article on the Main Page. Thanks for all your hard work in making this possible. I greatly appreciate it. Cheers. Remember (talk) 12:58, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the Technical Coordinator (that is, Br'er Rabbit) told me. Congrats! What's next? You don't come across a story like that every day!--Wehwalt (talk) 15:32, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Not sure when (or if) I will take another article through the whole process. Some articles that I think are interesting that I would like to see be FA would be zero stroke, Lisztomania (phenomenon), Studies on Homer and the Homeric Age and the Christian Front (United States) (which I think you may be interested in). Are you planning on attending wikimania in DC? Remember (talk) 17:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Alas no. I have gone to Europe and embark on a cruise on Friday. While it is a nice cruise, internet access is very much at a premium. I'm presently working on improving Joseph Foraker, mostly in sandbox at present. I take it you are going?--Wehwalt (talk) 18:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I think so. I want to attend the portion where they discuss the legal problems that wikipedia faces. Interested in meeting other wiki-lawyers. Remember (talk) 18:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps another time, then.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure. Would be happy to meet up sometime. Remember (talk) 18:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

My barnstar

I'm glad you enjoyed the conversation. Unfortunately, he didn't really answer my question. Incu Master (talk) 16:07, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

He never answered mine either, whether he is plotting another lockout over the O'Dwyer case. I actually doubt it, I think the first one accomplished what he wanted, which is to launch him as the god-king of freedom to transmit and transfer copyrighted files unless the copyright owner goes through a very picky process against a fast-moving target. Aw heck, let's just call it freedom to pirate..--Wehwalt (talk) 16:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for raising the matter. Note that there is also a related mailing list discussion: . (Note that I am linking to an external archive there, which builds threads. Mailing list sign-up is here, real-time archive for June is here.) JN466 12:14, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Did you mean?

I think you possibly meant 'user talk:Jimbo Wales' . Quisquiliae (talk) 18:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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don't know if you can help me

Hi,

I've been reviewing Heinrich Himmler for GAN. Having reviewed already Reinhard Heydrich, I didn't think I'd have a problem. The Albert Speer article was brought up and I looked at it, which you were responsible for.

Would you be willing to look at the Heinrich Himmler and tell me what you think? This is just a feeling on my part, but so much of the article depends on (translations?), opinions by Peter Longerich who I'm getting the feeling has some POV. Did you worry about who did the translations that you quoted from? (I'm certainly not a defender of Himmler, but I think a biography should be a biography and about the human being. It's so easy to just write about the bad guy, instead of seeing the complexity. But perhaps Himmler had no complexity?)

I don't know enough about German history to see that Himmler was worse than Hitler. Hitler is barely mentioned in the article, so everything seems like Himmler's doing on his own. (Maybe this is true. But in the Heydrick article it says: "Historians regard him as the darkest figure within the Nazi elite; Hitler christened him 'the man with the iron heart'.") So whose worst?

If you'd be willing, if you'd read it over and give me your opinion I'd much appreciate it. MathewTownsend (talk) 22:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Let me just add that my suggestion that you be consulted was well received at Talk:Hermann Göring/GA1. One of the editors is getting stressed out, and so far I don't know who else's opinion to ask. You seem to do the NPOV thing very well. And I think you have knowledge in this particular area. MathewTownsend (talk) 00:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I am limited to my iPhone right now but I will try. I did not worry about translations as there seemed no dispute.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:33, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

You weighed in with good advice. Thanks so much. Hope you continue to follow the article and add your 2¢ (or more). Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 14:12, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I will look back in in a few days.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:17, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Many changes have been made to Heinrich Himmler. If you could look back, that would be great. Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 23:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I will look at it offline, and weigh back in.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for United States Senate elections in Ohio, 1898

On 2 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article United States Senate elections in Ohio, 1898, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a number of Ohio Republicans refused to vote for Mark Hanna for senator in 1898, and he was elected by the legislature with only the minimum 73 votes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/United States Senate elections in Ohio, 1898. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thank you from the DYK team. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: Garret Hobart

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Garret Hobart (1844–1899) was the 24th Vice President of the United States (1897–1899), serving under President William McKinley. He was the sixth American vice president to die in office. Hobart served in local governmental positions, and then successfully ran for office as a Republican, serving in both the New Jersey General Assembly and the New Jersey Senate. Hobart was a longtime party official, and New Jersey delegates went to the 1896 Republican National Convention determined to nominate the popular lawyer for vice president. Hobart's political views were similar to those of McKinley, who was the presumptive Republican presidential candidate. With New Jersey a key state in the upcoming election, McKinley and his close adviser, future senator Mark Hanna, decided to have the convention select Hobart. The vice-presidential candidate emulated his running mate with a front porch campaign, though spending much time at the campaign's New York City office. McKinley and Hobart were elected. As vice president, Hobart proved a popular figure in Washington and was a close adviser to McKinley. Hobart's tact and good humor were valuable to the President. Hobart died in November 1899 of heart disease at age 55; his place on the Republican ticket in 1900 was taken by New York Governor Theodore Roosevelt. (more...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

59 minutes notice, me on a cruise ship with no internet access except by the minute and lots of fun like that. Thanks. Hope it doesn't get too damaged.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC)