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	::Also, your comments about whether it's stupid or not are irrelevant. As a note, the United States Congress, United States President Barack Obama, United States Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, United States GOP Candidate Mitt Romney, the Italian Parliament, the Australian Parliament, the Canadian Parliament, the German Parliament, German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, and NBC sportscaster Bob Costas would disagree with you. Personal opinions don't dictate Misplaced Pages policy. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 20:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)		::Also, your comments about whether it's stupid or not are irrelevant. As a note, the United States Congress, United States President Barack Obama, United States Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, United States GOP Candidate Mitt Romney, the Italian Parliament, the Australian Parliament, the Canadian Parliament, the German Parliament, German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, and NBC sportscaster Bob Costas would disagree with you. Personal opinions don't dictate Misplaced Pages policy. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 20:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
	:::I couldn't give a monkeys who would disagree with me, because as I did say, it was my personal opinion, but as you seem to not have noticed in your fit of pique, I never attached any policy assertion to it. But if it made you feel happier about the injustice of it all by creating this article though, more power to you. At the end of the day, the IOC run the Olympics, and they told them no, so that really should have been the end of it. Far more good might be achieved in this world if those myriad of talking heads you cited put their energies into actually fixing the reasons why Palestinians quite like to murder Isrealis, and are not too picky about the who's, where's or when's. That would be a real fitting tribute to the murdered athletes, imho. Perhaps there should have also been a minutes silence for the millions of innocent Iraqis that died in the time since the last Olympics. Perhaps good old Mitt has something to say on that eh? Or perhaps one of those people could, y'know, take some responsibility for their rampant industrialism and properly clear up the Bhopal mess? Etc, Etc, Etc. Bob Costas from NBC in particular can take a running jump as far as I'm concerned, he wasn't so concerned about remembering victims to stop the cutting of the segmenet about 7/7 were they? ] (]) 21:34, 30 July 2012 (UTC)		:::I couldn't give a monkeys who would disagree with me, because as I did say, it was my personal opinion, but as you seem to not have noticed in your fit of pique, I never attached any policy assertion to it. But if it made you feel happier about the injustice of it all by creating this article though, more power to you. At the end of the day, the IOC run the Olympics, and they told them no, so that really should have been the end of it. Far more good might be achieved in this world if those myriad of talking heads you cited put their energies into actually fixing the reasons why Palestinians quite like to murder Isrealis, and are not too picky about the who's, where's or when's. That would be a real fitting tribute to the murdered athletes, imho. Perhaps there should have also been a minutes silence for the millions of innocent Iraqis that died in the time since the last Olympics. Perhaps good old Mitt has something to say on that eh? Or perhaps one of those people could, y'know, take some responsibility for their rampant industrialism and properly clear up the Bhopal mess? Etc, Etc, Etc. Bob Costas from NBC in particular can take a running jump as far as I'm concerned, he wasn't so concerned about remembering victims to stop the cutting of the segmenet about 7/7 were they? ] (]) 21:34, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
			::::This should not be the title for the simple reason that One Minute of Silence is a general ritual applied for at least several decades in many nations for many major tragedies. The most recent request that this universal ritual be associated on wikipedia only with an Israeli request for recalling Munich 72 at the Olympics from 2012 strikes me as manipulative, and offensive to those millions, who for several decades, from England, to Israel, to Japan, and wherever, have observed one minute of silence every year for some national or international tragedy. You cannot 'nab' that in Misplaced Pages for this ephemeral request by one nation.] (]) 21:43, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Does anyone have any proof that "One minute of silence" is the name of this campaign? I removed the {Main} link to this article from Controversies at the 2012 Summer Olympics thinking that it was actually just the Moment of silence article, rather than being specifcally about this campaign. Personally I think it's a stupid campaign, I cannot think of anything more out of place in an opening ceremony than a minute's silence, but if this campaign is to have an article on Misplaced Pages, and if this is an official title, it should at least be capitalised as One Minute of Silence or parenthised Moment of silence (Munich campaign) to make it clear it's not just about the basic concept, with One minute of silence then redirected to Moment of silence. If it's not even an official or commonly used name for the campaign, then it should be renamed to a more descriptive title, like Campaign for a Munich memorial in the Olympic opening ceremony (presuming that now with the joys of the internet the same fuss is going to be made in 2016, 2020, 2024). FerrerFour (talk) 14:05, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

It's been used pretty much as "One Minute of Silence." If a bunch of people want to rename it "One Minute of Silence Campaign," I'd do that. For now, I'll go ahead and capitalize it, it wasn't intentional to have it not capitalized. --Activism1234 20:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Also, your comments about whether it's stupid or not are irrelevant. As a note, the United States Congress, United States President Barack Obama, United States Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, United States GOP Candidate Mitt Romney, the Italian Parliament, the Australian Parliament, the Canadian Parliament, the German Parliament, German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, and NBC sportscaster Bob Costas would disagree with you. Personal opinions don't dictate Misplaced Pages policy. --Activism1234 20:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't give a monkeys who would disagree with me, because as I did say, it was my personal opinion, but as you seem to not have noticed in your fit of pique, I never attached any policy assertion to it. But if it made you feel happier about the injustice of it all by creating this article though, more power to you. At the end of the day, the IOC run the Olympics, and they told them no, so that really should have been the end of it. Far more good might be achieved in this world if those myriad of talking heads you cited put their energies into actually fixing the reasons why Palestinians quite like to murder Isrealis, and are not too picky about the who's, where's or when's. That would be a real fitting tribute to the murdered athletes, imho. Perhaps there should have also been a minutes silence for the millions of innocent Iraqis that died in the time since the last Olympics. Perhaps good old Mitt has something to say on that eh? Or perhaps one of those people could, y'know, take some responsibility for their rampant industrialism and properly clear up the Bhopal mess? Etc, Etc, Etc. Bob Costas from NBC in particular can take a running jump as far as I'm concerned, he wasn't so concerned about remembering victims to stop the cutting of the segmenet about 7/7 were they? FerrerFour (talk) 21:34, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

This should not be the title for the simple reason that One Minute of Silence is a general ritual applied for at least several decades in many nations for many major tragedies. The most recent request that this universal ritual be associated on wikipedia only with an Israeli request for recalling Munich 72 at the Olympics from 2012 strikes me as manipulative, and offensive to those millions, who for several decades, from England, to Israel, to Japan, and wherever, have observed one minute of silence every year for some national or international tragedy. You cannot 'nab' that in Misplaced Pages for this ephemeral request by one nation.Nishidani (talk) 21:43, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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