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G'day. If you've got something to say, say it. Peacemaker67 (talk) 01:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

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RE:POV Tag on Draza Mihailovic article

 Done

RE:Neutrality

RE:Neutrality (x2)

Btw, you may find Renaming interesting as well.

Re; Citing on Jasenovac article

It's OK, sorry if I have been impulsive. Cheers, --Bbrezic (talk) 11:58, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Discussion of sources re: official title of Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia

You stop with POV pushing and revert war. You only want to promote an strange and dubious name in wikipedia and I proved that one of the sources that you use do not support your POV. Also your so called bibliography have nothing to do with subjects of these articles. Nemambrata (talk) 13:34, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

If you continue I will report you for Wiki stalking and abuse of refences. But, if you want to talk I will ask you this> what is wrong with descripription area governed by the Military Administration in Serbia? Nemambrata (talk) 13:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

it was discussed at length on Talk:Territory_of_the_Military_Commander_in_Serbia, which I suggest you read. Here is the page. Firstly, it is pretty complex, and involves the international laws of belligerent occupation and numerous sources, but the administration was only one half of the military government. The other half was the economic office run by Franz Neuhausen for most of the war. Over the top of both was the Military Commander in Serbia, who was allocated an area of Yugoslavia which roughly accorded with what used to be known as Central Serbia, in which he was the ultimate authority. The puppet governments of Acimovic and Nedic were appointed by the Military Commander, but actually worked to the Head of the Military Administration. The article in question Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia is about all of that, including the territory he ruled, and that was its official name. The official name was in German and there were a couple of different English translations, so and we got several German speaking wikipedians to look at it and give an opinion. User:Buckshot06 oversaw the process on MILHIST and consensus was achieved for the current article name. That is it in a nutshell. There is also the issue that has been discussed on WT:MILHIST in the last couple of days which relates to using the contemporary name of the territory in articles about that time. As you are no doubt aware, the King changed the subdivisions of Yugoslavia in 1929 specifically so they didn't correspond with previous political boundaries. He did this to try to achieve unity between the Yugoslav people. When the Axis invaded, what had been the Kingdom of Serbia in 1918 had been divided between various banovina, and whilst there had been a 'Serbia' on that territory in the past (the Kingdom most recently), there was not one when the invasion occurred. The contemporary state name at the time of the invasion was Yugoslavia, not Serbia, or Croatia or any of the other former subdivisions. That is why Occupation of Serbia in WWII is not an appropriate article, it rewrites history by saying there was an entity called Serbia to be occupied in 1941. The Germans gave it a name when they occupied it, and it was the Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia. Peacemaker67 (talk) 13:51, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

all this speech is not related to our subject - why you promote name not supported by sources, why you abuse reference and why you filling bibliographies of pages with nonrelated books? Nemambrata (talk) 14:12, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012

There is currently a thread on WP:ANI that may concern you . You've been involved with the user in question more than I. -- Director (talk) 21:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Local official name

Peacemaker67, do you know what was local official name, used in official documents for this territory?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Dash fix

Hey, I see I messed up putting a dash into a ref name; thanks for catching and fixing. But what's with the other two places where you changed dashes in page ranges back to hyphens? Dicklyon (talk) 06:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC) Oh, I see, you had the same confusion I had about ref name or not. It would have been better if I had changed all those in the names instead of trying to change only the ones that show up, since I got it wrong. Better now, I think. Dicklyon (talk) 06:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not so good with the dashes yet, I should probably get a master class... Peacemaker67 (talk) 06:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Andrija Artukovic

It's too obvious that factual inaccuracy and POV are main deficiencies of this article. The discussion is open. Please, avoid false accusations about edit warring. I am improving the article content. It's you who is an edit warring user.--71.178.108.23 (talk) 00:58, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Handschar

The unit did crimes against the Serb people and fought briefly in Syrmia - covers WPSR, give a rationale not to add it and you may remove it.--Zoupan 12:58, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I never suggested it shouldn't be added, I just wanted to know why you added it. Try WP:AGF for a change of pace, you need to chill out. No-one's out to get you. Struth! Peacemaker67 (talk) 13:06, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	As a sign of gratitude of your contributions on Misplaced Pages, I award you this barnstar. Thank you for the meticulous care and vast amount of research you've put into numerous Yugoslavia related articles, especially the Pavle Đurišić article. Congratulations, Peacemaker67. ◅PRODUCER (TALK) 15:08, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Cheers! Peacemaker67 (talk) 15:12, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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Apology

I apologize. I actually removed my warning before you left me a message. Again, my apology. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 07:52, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

NO worries. :-) Peacemaker67 (talk) 07:55, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Tomasevich

Do you have any offline works on WWII Yugoslav history that mention this collaborationist unit? Its current state leaves much to be desired regarding sources.--— ZjarriRrethues —  18:42, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Third Enemy Offensive

Is it appropriate for "Third Enemy Offensive" to redirect to "Operation Trio" given that Trio is apparently simply "a part" of it rather than the "Third Enemy Offensive". --◅ PRODUCER (TALK) 08:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)