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Your comment at Talk:Czech Republic

Hello Ximhua. The page Talk:Czech Republic in intended for discussions about possible improvements to the article Czech Republic. Also, when reading your post, I have to remind you to read WP:CANVAS and WP:FORUMSHOP. Comments of this kind are highly inappropriate anywhere on Misplaced Pages. Thanks for your understanding. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:25, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Formal mediation has been requested

The Mediation Committee has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Bulgaria". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. Mediation is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the request page, the formal mediation policy, and the guide to formal mediation, please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate. Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by 5 August 2012.

Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you.
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Warning

This behaviour here is really unacceptable, especially after all the edit-warring you engaged in with your IPs before you created your account. Just so that nobody can claim you weren't warned, here's the standard warning:

In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing Balkans-related articles in a disruptive way. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article/topic ban. Thank you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:55, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Mediation page

About this : I honestly don't care what the formal rules are in that place. But do you honestly think that your text did a better job than mine at preparing an outside reader for understanding what this dispute is about and what needs to be settled? I am taking this as a test of your goodwill and your readiness for collaboration. If you are truly interested in collaboration and in reaching a solution, you will say: thank you, Fut.Perf., for helping me to present this matter in a better way than I could do it myself. On the other hand, if you dig in your heels over this and insist on your "right" to have your rambling, disorganized and overlong rant remain on that page, just because it is yours, then I will know that talking with you is not worth the trouble. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Any comment? Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:13, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry investigation

Since I doubt you will respond at the investigation page, I am asking you here - could you please list the IP address under which you made your edits ? Thank you in advance. - ☣Tourbillon 19:10, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tsvetan Sokolov

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Request for mediation rejected

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Canvassing

You've been told about WP:Canvassing more than once, yet you've gone and done it again. Is there an explanation for this? Have you read WP:Canvass, and do you understand what it is? CMD (talk) 19:38, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hi, I am Espor and I am a new editor in Misplaced Pages. I would like to ask you how to be granted access to the Bulgaria page again since the page is now protected and thus it cannot be edited. Is it temporary or is it permanent? Also I would like to renew the discussion on whether the dates 632 and 681 should be put back in the infobox. I do not think that the current info box satisfies the criteria for objectivity and completeness. In fact I see something even darker- a manifestation of double standards. How come the founding year of Iran is 625BC and the founding year of the Czech republic is 870 whereas the founding year of one of the oldest states in Europe-Bulgaria-is 1878?? There is something fishy here! Cheers.62.203.109.137 (talk) 16:49, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ximhua,

Turbillon, or whatever his name, is a hypocrite smooth talker. It is interesting how the vandal labels others vandals! Hes the one changing the infobox and than instead of providing solid arguments for his revision he demands arguments from the other side for not agreeing with him! This must be a joke, right? And what is even more astonishing is that hes version is accepted... So you say I cannot edit anymore? Is it temporary or is it permanent? Moreover I would like to know how can we ban this wolf in sheep's clothes Turbalan. Is there some way to deny him access to the side the way I am denied? C'mon there must be some way to go around this obstacle. We cannot leave this page being desecrated like this, can we?--Espor--Espor (talk) 20:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Espor, I haven't found a way to permanently ban him, but sooner or later that will happen. The point is to remain cool, not get yourself blocked and follow Misplaced Pages rules. Feel free to investigate and let me know if you find anything further than request for mediation, request for comment or dispute resolution. I've tried all three and as of lately he simply doesn't participate and these are closed on that grounds. It certainly would help however if more active editors take an active position. Note that Tourbilion is always online in WP, almost as if someone is paying him to do it :) The fact is that he clearly doesn't know much about Bulgaria's history. Ximhua (talk) 21:12, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ximhua, Turbalan presents himself as Bulgarian user living in Sofia which I think is a lie. What do you think? I didn't find articles written by him in Bulgarian. Could he be deceptive? A lier who seeks for a way to legitimize his stealthy vandalism. Since I am new here maybe you could provide me with some information on that. What do you know about him? When did he become active and in particular active in the Bulgarian section? Unfortunately I am very busy and cannot be constantly online as today but I take this case seriously and will do whatever I can to destroy this lier. I don't want him out of the Article I want him completely banned. CMD seems to be on his side? Know something about him? thanksEspor (talk) 23:16, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Espor, I don't know where he lives, and quite frankly don't care :) He is clearly on an agenda here. CMD and a couple of others seem to be on his side, but they are more or less confused and lack knowledge on the topic. The best advice I can give you is to tone down your rhetoric, I know you are frustrated and I understand it, but the easiest way to get yourself banned is to use offensive language, and besides it alienates people. This is an endurance game, not a sprint :) I don't know how shut him down, but even if you did, he'll register again, change the IP and here we go again. The best way is for knowledgeable editors to contribute to the topic via both the talk page and edits to the subject. Remember he only has 3 edits per day, same as everybody else and since his edits are not fact based, he will fail. Stick around.

Best, Ximhua (talk) 01:28, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ximhua, the Bulgaria page is open again. Should we revert the infobox? The conversation in the talk section is highly unconstructive and I barely believe that we will ever convince these jokers. They clearly are stubborn, do not care about the truth and do not react to any reasonable argument. The only thing they are doing is dodging everything that contradicts their point of view. Should we ask some admin for help in resolving this issue? What do you think/suggest? Cheers, EsporEspor (talk) 22:19, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ximhua,

apparently Future Ref is so desperate that he tries to ban me from the article, maybe you could comment on the page of Arbitration Request http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:AE why their accusations are false. His request can be found down on the page. Furthermore he wants to ascribe me crimes that I haven't commited such as deliberately mispelling my username, Thanks in advance. Espor (talk) 08:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Espor, sorry I was away for a while. I tried to comment on the Arbitration Request, but it says it was closed. On the infobox, I see that the dates are updated. Not quite as I'd like it, but I guess we can live with that for now. We have to keep an eye on it, is all. Ximhua (talk) 15:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

September 2012

Welcome to Wikpedia! Although everyone is welcomed here, please, do not remove reliable sources or information from articles, as you did to Early Cyrillic alphabet and Cyrillic script. Your edits appear to be unconstructive and have been reverted or removed. If you believe the information you removed was incorrect, please cite reliable references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Jingiby Jingiby (talk) 07:04, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to manipulate or remove portions of page content, to change the sourced material or simply to push your POV, as you did at Early Cyrillic alphabet, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 14:12, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Reported for sanctions at AE

See thread at WP:AE. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Notice to administrators: In a March 2010 decision, the Committee held that "Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page. Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee."