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== Work your usability voodoo! == | |||
Hey, TheDJ! Thanks so much for all your feedback on the edit window changes; it was really helpful, and helped us spot a lot of bugs before rather than after deployment :). We've got ] if you want to chip in - no prototype for you to prod yet, but it's coming, and any feedback on just the design would be great :). ] (]) 21:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC) |
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Turning Sharebox into a gadget
Hi TheDJ! In your edit dated 22:21, 21 October 2011 you wrote: "See User:TheDJ/Sharebox. If anyone wants to propose it as a gadget, then do so". We still get requests like this once in a while, so I think turning Sharebox into a gadget may be a good idea. Personally I strongly dislike Facebook, but that is just my POV. How can we start the process of turning this into a opt-in gadget? Sorry, I have never tried that before. Arcandam (talk) 21:52, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
- Officially, there is a process, but it's probably easier/quicker to go to Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(technical), since it seems not too many folks follow gadget proposal pages. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! See Misplaced Pages:Gadget/proposals and Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical). Arcandam (talk) 01:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hello again TheDJ! Would you be so kind to write a good description of Sharebox (as a gadget) which mentions the possible privacy concerns? I expect that those with privacy concerns are not very interested in using this gadget anyway BTW. Arcandam (talk) 20:56, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- This previous proposal might be a a good start. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) 22:52, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hello again TheDJ! Would you be so kind to write a good description of Sharebox (as a gadget) which mentions the possible privacy concerns? I expect that those with privacy concerns are not very interested in using this gadget anyway BTW. Arcandam (talk) 20:56, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! See Misplaced Pages:Gadget/proposals and Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical). Arcandam (talk) 01:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Tech Report
Hey Derk-Jan. I'm in a little bit of a pickle, and I was wondering if you could help me out. Basically, I have exams coming up, so I'm not going to be able to write the Tech report to its usual length, though the amount of extra time needed differs by the week:
- Next week (28 May) - I'll write a leader about the developer/non-developer divide, handle the poll, and probably help with IBs. I could use somebody picking up and writing a second story, however.
- The week after that (4 June) - I'll write a leader about the Berlin hackathon, handle the poll, and copyedit. I could use someone helping with either a second story, or at least a good handful of IBs.
- The week after that (11 June) - I'll chip in with a few IBS, polling and a copyedit, but I could use someone writing one or two main stories.
- The week after that (18 June) - I'll only be able to handle polling and a copyedit; it might be that we have to sit this one out unless somebody wants to take charge.
Since you've helped out before, is there any possibility you might be able to contribute to one or more of these issues? I'll also be sending this message to Aude, as well, but I know she's busy with DC stuff. Regards, - Jarry1250 16:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
- I unfortunately have to decline since the signpost is largely intended to inform a community that I have decided to no longer support with my technical commentary and assistence. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
- Fair enough. It is certainly correct to say that only about 11-12% of direct Signpost recipients receive it on a project other than the English Misplaced Pages. Personally I like to think that the Tech Report is a useful way of bridging the formative developer-Wikimedian divide, but obviously you're entitled to your own view on that one. Are you at Berlin, btw? - Jarry1250 22:08, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
- It is a useful way to bridge that divide, but since that is the only thing I was still doing at the English Misplaced Pages to begin with and it is obviously demotivating me more than is healthy for both 'parties' I decide I better focus on 100% development instead of 90% keeping up with en.wp and 10% development. I am in Berlin this weekend indeed. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- Fair enough. It is certainly correct to say that only about 11-12% of direct Signpost recipients receive it on a project other than the English Misplaced Pages. Personally I like to think that the Tech Report is a useful way of bridging the formative developer-Wikimedian divide, but obviously you're entitled to your own view on that one. Are you at Berlin, btw? - Jarry1250 22:08, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
OpenOil in Berlin
Hi
Are you based in Berlin? I came across you as a guest at the Berlin hackathon this weekend? And thought I might send you a message to see if you would have the chance to meet up with some of my colleagues at OpenOil over the next few weeks.
We have a MediaWiki platform at wiki.openoil.net, currently fairly basic, which we use for capacity building exercises around the extractive industries as part of our social mandate. We have been looking at various extensions (eg. mapping, comments, social media, mobile skin etc) which it would be interesting to discuss with you.
Please get in touch on lucy.wallwork@openoil.net if you fancy meeting for lunch one day, and I can pass you on to deal with my colleagues Zara and Amrit.
Cheers. Lucy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.189.117.93 (talk) 14:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Classy
Yeah, that might've been a little much. I just get frustrated at how easily the site goes splat. Ten Pound Hammer • 01:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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Wikimapia
Perhaps you could give some input on the noticeboard threads concerning this site? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:43, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Which noticeboard threads ? I don't see any links to such things on the Talk page. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:47, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
scribunto.wmflabs.org
Thanks for the info on the VPT. I followed your links and created:
I see you've had a flurry of accounts created over there; above is me, so don't whack it. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
edittop.js
Hi, this edit has broken the gadget - the edit link now appears to the left of the article title. This is in Firefox 14.0.1 - not sure about other browsers. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, it's working properly again. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah sorry, i tested it only on right to left languages and thus accidentally flipped the logic. My (big) mistake. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:44, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Use of colour in Template:Infobox television
The issue of the use of colour in {{Infobox television}} has arisen again. I discovered two related edits by you on this subject, so I thought I should inform you that there is currently a discussion at Template talk:Infobox television#Infobox colors into which you may wish to have input. --AussieLegend (talk) 20:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for the notice. I will not participate in a new discussion, my position has not really changed. We should not be skittlepedia, but nor should we be boringpedia. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 22:12, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Thoughts?
See ; the current citation templates are dumping raw wikitext into COinS metadata. It doesn't look like a trivial problem to solve, even with Scribunto/Lua. Thoughts? Choess (talk) 16:07, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
bug links
Oops! Your three edits just now at VPT linking to ]
are creating interwiki links to Buginese Misplaced Pages (bug:). As I'm sure you'll realise, you need to use ]
(except on Bugzilla itself, of course, when the syntax becomes bug nnnnn
). — Richardguk (talk) 08:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- And in svn, and in gerrit.. yeah, it all becomes a bit confusing at times. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:34, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Please check
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Re: Accessibility experiment
Hi DJ, sure, I'd be happy to help out with any experiments to improve accessibility. As for the ARIA script, the landmarks read fine with JAWS. It is pretty nifty to be able to press a key and move to the different parts of the page instantly! Some of the landmarks seem a little redundant to me, but that is probably because I still use the Monobook skin which has more headings than Vector. I confess I don't know much about ARIA or landmarks, but I'm willing to learn ... I just havenn't encountered them very often. Graham87 14:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
$.cookie() vs. document.cookie...
I updated bugzilla:38009 with more details; in short however, I can't figure out why this works:
$('a').click(function(){ document.cookie = 'stopMobileRedirect=false; domain=.wikipedia.org;' + 'path=/; expires=Thu, 01-Jan-1970 00:00:00 GMT;'; });
but this doesn't:
$('a').click(function(){ $.cookie('stopMobileRedirect','false', { domain: '.wikipedia.org', path: '/', expires: 'Thu, 01-Jan-1970 00:00:00 GMT'}); });
Any suggestions? Thanks! sn‾uǝɹɹɐʍɯ (talk) 07:15, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- Just use $.cookie( 'stopMobileRedirect', null ); I use it here and it seems to work for me. I had to clear the browser cache on the first test though. It seems iOS does not respect all the cache invalidation on our JS files. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 07:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- I saw your addition to MediaWiki:Common.is yesterday; thank you, but unfortunately, it didn't resolve the problem (at least for my iOS 5.1.1 device) even after clearing the cache and cookies. The steps I wrote up in the bug reproduce the problem every time on my mobile browser even after the update in Common.is. Changing the code to use document.cookie instead of $.cookie() (in my User:common.js) does successfully resolve the problem. Are we testing using different browsers/platforms? Thanks, sn‾uǝɹɹɐʍɯ (talk) 17:45, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
Design feedback
Hey - if you have a moment, I'd love to hear your feedback on my draft main page redesign proposal. Thanks, — Pretzels 18:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Test2 Misplaced Pages
Since I've Scribbled Template:collapsible list (Template:collapsible list), it would be useful to have the parts of MediaWiki:Common.js that deal with "dynamic navigation bars" added to MediaWiki:Common.js. I'd add them myself, but cannot for the obvious reason. Uncle G (talk) 13:42, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
- Done —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:08, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Accessibility issues
Thanks so much for your feedback on the edit tweaks; in particular I loved the accessibility use case - we can't cut people with accessibility issues out of the loop. I've scheduled a meeting with the team to discuss all the concerns tomorrow: can you elaborate on what you see potentially being the problem? Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- I see the following issues:
- The mockup seems to use lightgray on white. This might be a contrast issue. For the minimum and advised contrast levels, check WCAG 2.0.
- The wmflabs demo uses tiny (10px for me) black text on dark gray. The text is smaller than we usually have in the wikis. Again that can be an accessiblity issue. Combined with a possible contrast issue between front and background color, it requires attention
- The collapsible link gives no feedback to screenreader users that the element can be used as a button. Needs to be either <a> or <button> or use a wai-aria hint.
- The warnings are a summation. For the sake of screenreader users, it should be considered to make this an actual unordered list, with li items, using en.wp's hlist. See also Misplaced Pages:HLIST#Horizontal_lists and MediaWiki:Common.css. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 22:24, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- Good points all :). I'll bring them up word-for-word tomorrow, and we should be able to fix them up before we deploy. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:28, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Template talk:Tall image
I thought I would contact you since you have edited Template:Tall image and the creator of the template has left Misplaced Pages. I describe a problem with the template at Template talk:Tall image, and I thought you may be able to fix it. Hyacinth (talk) 22:16, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
How to upload a logo of a newspaper?
Hi DJ! Regards from Miami. I'm writing an article about a newspaper from Argentina. http://en.wikipedia.org/Misiones_Online
I saw you upload and your example in another article: http://en.wikipedia.org/File:El_D%C3%ADa_(La_Plata).png
Im going to need your help to upload the logo of this newspaper, "Misiones On Line" from Argentina. Can you help me, please? Thank you.--Misty2011 (talk) 17:56, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
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Template:Lang title
The Template:Lang title documentation does not state clearly where in the article the template is supposed to go. I wonder: is it supposed to be the first item in an article? Is there some way of finding out if it is used at all in English Misplaced Pages (i.e. does it set a category, as—I believe—Template:Lang does?) Background: Some diacritics-crazy people have been adding diacritics (including Vietnamese diacritics) to article titles. I'm also curious if the same template is used in all the foreign-language Wikipedias (the documentation suggests so). I gave one of the foreign Wikipedias a quick glance but couldn't see it. LittleBen (talk) 22:00, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) It's easy to find out if it's in use. Go to the template page, click "What links here" (in the left margin menus) and then "Hide links", which will reduce the list to just the transclusions. At the moment, there are none. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:44, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- The Template:Lang title documentation says that it's used on a large number of pages, and foreign-language article titles should have W3C language markup tags. So I'm wondering how the markup is currently done (assuming that English Misplaced Pages is W3C semantic markup and accessibility compliant)—possibly Template:Lang title has been replaced by another template? Or perhaps it has fallen by the wayside in the switch to HTML5? User:TheDJ is shown as the author of Template:Lang title.
- I have just plugged this into the W3C HTML/XHTML validator, and got a lot of errors. Possibly the W3C validator doesn't check for proper language tagging, either. The source doesn't show any language tags, and a quick look at the Wiki code doesn't show any language templates such as Template:Lang either.
- I also tried this (the Japanese-language page for "Tokyo") in the W3C HTML/XHTML validator, and also got a lot of errors. I don't know if I'm game to try the W3C CSS validator as well :-( LittleBen (talk) 08:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- This template was created in response to this discussion as well as {{Titlelang}}. Both templates were not used by those discussing the issue it seems
- The template carried the "large number of pages" warning due to a copy paste error.
- Currently no language tag markup is applied to page titles, at least not by template.
- "assuming that English Misplaced Pages is W3C semantic markup and accessibility compliant", you assume wrong. It's not accessibility compliant, nor is it valid HTML5. That is always what we should strive towards, but in terms of 'compliancy' we only go with what makes stuff work in browsers.
- I'd advise a new template, with the sole purpose of putting a span + language code around it and does not output categories. This template can then be used INSIDE {{DISPLAYTITLE}}. Like {{DISPLAYTITLE:{{lang titlepart|vi|Buôn Ma Thuột}} city}}. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:36, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- I've now retooled {{lang title}} into {{lang titlepart}} and applied it to your vietnamese example. —TheDJ (talk • contribs)
- Many thanks. LittleBen (talk) 14:07, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- I've now retooled {{lang title}} into {{lang titlepart}} and applied it to your vietnamese example. —TheDJ (talk • contribs)
Suggestions for improving Misplaced Pages's Search
Comment: As you seem to be a user-interface expert as well as a template expert, you may be interested in my suggestions here. LittleBen (talk) 14:30, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.81.101.124 (talk) 20:24, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
A pie for you!
Thanks for creating the Qui system! Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:19, 1 October 2012 (UTC) |
A beer for you!
Good to see you old friend. Stillwaterising (talk) 05:52, 1 October 2012 (UTC) |
Work your usability voodoo!
Hey, TheDJ! Thanks so much for all your feedback on the edit window changes; it was really helpful, and helped us spot a lot of bugs before rather than after deployment :). We've got another set of ideas if you want to chip in - no prototype for you to prod yet, but it's coming, and any feedback on just the design would be great :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)