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== Quickly doing a partial undeletion ==
== Move ==

I suppose that discussion is in the archive, it is not on the talk page. There is a note from someone who did the same thing as me though, at ]. Maybe there should be a comment there, with link to the prior discussion. // ] 13:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

== Re: batting averages ==

I respectfully disagree. I know of a user who (as of last week or so when the tool server stopped updating) has made 891 edits to the same article, but somehow only averages 2.20 edits per page overall. Incredible, I know, but this user (you may know whom I'm talking about, so I don't have to mention his name) obviously does enough other work here to offset his apparent obsession. Also, he very rarely uses his admin tools at all, and never in matters where he's personally involved. For what it's worth, my edits/page is 1.39, so I guess I'm sort of useless. Will we be able to say that much for the present candidate in a few months? If I was more confident in that, I might support. Knowing the details of the 3RR block would also be helpful. — <small>Apr. 20, '06</small> <tt class=plainlinks>''' <]>'''</tt>
:Thank you for your prompt reply. And thank you for the links regarding the incident. Here's some links for you as well . Feel free to remove them at your discretion. I'll take a look at the 3RR thing. — <small>Apr. 20, '06</small> <tt class=plainlinks>''' <]>'''</tt>

== Dershowitz ==

Please stop removing material from Alan Dershowitz. - ] 17:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

stop your thuggery. - ] 17:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

:What was that all about ? ] 17:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

== I owe an apology ==


Slim, I was just about to delete something when I saw that you had. Do you know that there's a quick way of checking the thousands of boxes so that you can just uncheck the two or three that you don't want to restore? I discovered it only yesterday, having spent hours at the Easter weekend resortoring pages, at least one of which had thousands of versions. You can see it ]. It just takes five seconds. I'm not sure if it would be wise for me to jump in and restore something that you may be in the middle of restoring, but if you see this in the meantime, let me know. Otherwise, it may be useful to know for another occasion. Cheers. ] ] 19:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Slim Virgin, I owe you an apology, and with this post I am offering one to you. I am glad that we have administrators as well versed in WP policies as you are. I want to be constructive, not destructive. I will try to be more helpful to Misplaced Pages. ] 22:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:Done! It's incredibly quick and easy &mdash; it makes me groan to think I didn't know about it when I was doing the Christianity talk page a few weeks ago! ] ] 20:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry, I thought I had given the proper link, but now I see that I had only linked to the noticeboard, not the section. I've corrected it now. Basically, it's the information that you get when you go to your watchlist, then to "display and edit the complete list", then to a link on how to check all boxes. I wasn't sure at first how to create a "favourite" without being on an actual website and ''adding'' it to my favourites. But eventually, I added a website that had nothing to do with anything to my favourites, and gave it the false name "Check all boxes", and then went to my favourites menu, right-clicked the link, went to "properties", and pasted the code in instead of the existing address. It just took me a few seconds to restore the remaining 12,000 versions. ] ] 20:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


:::I have no idea what a monobook is, and the reason I've never installed any of the code thingies that I read about on Misplaced Pages pages is that they ''sound'' so complicated. I just, as I said, added a website to my "Favourites", giving it the name "Check all boxes". Then I edited the address location for that particular link in my favourites menu. It's odd, because it's not a web address, and when I'm at the "undelete this page" place, and scroll down to that link in my "favourites", I don't get taken to another website, and the URL in the address bar doesn't change. I just see that two seconds later, all the boxes are checked, and then I uncheck the few that I don't want. I ''thought'' it would be really complcated, but in fact, it's incredibly simple! ] ] 20:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
== Anon IP using talk pages as soap box ==


::::Oh, I was just spying on you ;-) to see if you were still online after I sent my last message, and I saw your post to Voice of All. I think the one I was thinking of isn't the same. The one I'm using is ]. I think I saw Voice of All's one, and it sounded ''far'' too complicated! :-) ] ] 20:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Slim,


:::::Well, if you have the Voice of All script, you don't need the other one, presumably. When I sent you that first message, I hadn't tried the other one out on undeletion. I did a partial resoration of a large page yesterday, but did it by restoring the offending version and moving it to another page, deleting the other page, going back to the original page, and restoring all the good versions. But then I managed to install the Check all boxes thing from the link on my "display the complete watchlist". I played with that for a while. Then I went to Amazon.com, and looked at a book. At the bottom of the page, they have boxes to check for other books in that category &mdash; biography, 19th century, French writers, etc. I scrolled down to the new "Check all boxes" link in my Favourites, and instantly, all the Amazon boxes were checked. Even while I'm editing your talk page, I can go to that link, and it checks the two boxes for "minor edit" and "watch this page" (well, that one is already ticked). So I was fairly confident when I offered to do it for the undeletion of that page. I went to "undelete 1200 edits", scrolled down to the "check all boxes" in my Favourites, and immmediately, I was still at the same page, but all the 1200 boxes were checked.
Anon IP {{User|195.70.32.136}} has had a history of making inflammatory comments in talk pages (out of the last 50 contributions, only 2 have been to non-talk pages). Several users have commented on this on the IP's talk page, but the anon hasn't got into too much trouble as (s)he only comments once in any given page. It seems like the anon knows a bit about the rules, as POV is expressed in talk rather than main articles. Is a user-conduct RFC a good idea, or could it make things worse? Thanks, ] 12:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


:::::Anyway, if you have a version that works, I suppose it doesn't matter which version it is. Cheers. ] ] 20:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
== PTMccain ==


:SlimV, you had an extra "---" that broke the JS. I removed it. Press cntrl-F5. You can also use shift (even withought JS) to select many edits at once.''']'''<sup>]|]|]</font></sup> 20:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Since this is a new user, I suggest you try talking to him, rather than threatening him. Also, since this is on a page you are editing, I want it on record that you have a conflict of interest as far as admin duties go. If you do not like what he is doing, call in another admin. --] 13:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


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Comments appreciated on this (just found accidently). ] 01:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


== Crown Copyright ==
Yes, and here's an interesting thought. I was reading a certain person's user page and notice that she lists these two principles first as how to behave on Misplaced Pages. Maybe you ought to listen to this advice from a certain person I think you know:


You've just archived your talk page, so I'll respond here. The basic Crown Copyright laid out by HMSO is indeed acceptable as a free license. However, it allows for individual departments to place additional requirements in their copyirhgt notices, some of which make media from them clearly non-free. See for example the copyright notice from the . Its material is protected by Crown Copyright. However, it ''also'' requires the payment of a fee for the use of any of its images. Others, such as the allow for unlimited reproduction only for private study and scientific research, with any other use requiring explicit permission &mdash; ie. {{tl|NonCommercial}}. These also aren't acceptable as free images, though most of the time, the image can be kept under terms of fair use. This is why {{tl|CrownCopyright}} includes a <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> section underneath pointing to the list of acceptable sites at ]. ] <sup>]</sup>⁄<sub>]</sub> <small>&bull;&nbsp;10:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)</small>
# Be nice. Praise people when you see things being done well. Write personal notes to people on their talk pages saying what a good edit such-and-such was. You can make someone's day with some positive feedback.
# Don't engage in unnecessary personal criticism or personal attacks. At the same time, let people know that you're able and willing to stand up for yourself and your edits, but not to the point of being obnoxious. -PTmccain


== Lumiere RfC == == 3RR ==


No. If you read the comments made on the 3RR page last week you'll see that, in fact, I was blocked for adding the same words more than three times. Your interpretation of the 3RR rule is overly broad and unique. ] 13:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
May I ask why you reverted MonkeySage's removal of Askolnick's comment? It seems close enough to a personal attack to merit removal. ]

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Quickly doing a partial undeletion

Slim, I was just about to delete something when I saw that you had. Do you know that there's a quick way of checking the thousands of boxes so that you can just uncheck the two or three that you don't want to restore? I discovered it only yesterday, having spent hours at the Easter weekend resortoring pages, at least one of which had thousands of versions. You can see it here. It just takes five seconds. I'm not sure if it would be wise for me to jump in and restore something that you may be in the middle of restoring, but if you see this in the meantime, let me know. Otherwise, it may be useful to know for another occasion. Cheers. AnnH 19:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Done! It's incredibly quick and easy — it makes me groan to think I didn't know about it when I was doing the Christianity talk page a few weeks ago! AnnH 20:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought I had given the proper link, but now I see that I had only linked to the noticeboard, not the section. I've corrected it now. Basically, it's the information that you get when you go to your watchlist, then to "display and edit the complete list", then to a link on how to check all boxes. I wasn't sure at first how to create a "favourite" without being on an actual website and adding it to my favourites. But eventually, I added a website that had nothing to do with anything to my favourites, and gave it the false name "Check all boxes", and then went to my favourites menu, right-clicked the link, went to "properties", and pasted the code in instead of the existing address. It just took me a few seconds to restore the remaining 12,000 versions. AnnH 20:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I have no idea what a monobook is, and the reason I've never installed any of the code thingies that I read about on Misplaced Pages pages is that they sound so complicated. I just, as I said, added a website to my "Favourites", giving it the name "Check all boxes". Then I edited the address location for that particular link in my favourites menu. It's odd, because it's not a web address, and when I'm at the "undelete this page" place, and scroll down to that link in my "favourites", I don't get taken to another website, and the URL in the address bar doesn't change. I just see that two seconds later, all the boxes are checked, and then I uncheck the few that I don't want. I thought it would be really complcated, but in fact, it's incredibly simple! AnnH 20:20, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I was just spying on you ;-) to see if you were still online after I sent my last message, and I saw your post to Voice of All. I think the one I was thinking of isn't the same. The one I'm using is this one. I think I saw Voice of All's one, and it sounded far too complicated! :-) AnnH 20:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, if you have the Voice of All script, you don't need the other one, presumably. When I sent you that first message, I hadn't tried the other one out on undeletion. I did a partial resoration of a large page yesterday, but did it by restoring the offending version and moving it to another page, deleting the other page, going back to the original page, and restoring all the good versions. But then I managed to install the Check all boxes thing from the link on my "display the complete watchlist". I played with that for a while. Then I went to Amazon.com, and looked at a book. At the bottom of the page, they have boxes to check for other books in that category — biography, 19th century, French writers, etc. I scrolled down to the new "Check all boxes" link in my Favourites, and instantly, all the Amazon boxes were checked. Even while I'm editing your talk page, I can go to that link, and it checks the two boxes for "minor edit" and "watch this page" (well, that one is already ticked). So I was fairly confident when I offered to do it for the undeletion of that page. I went to "undelete 1200 edits", scrolled down to the "check all boxes" in my Favourites, and immmediately, I was still at the same page, but all the 1200 boxes were checked.
Anyway, if you have a version that works, I suppose it doesn't matter which version it is. Cheers. AnnH 20:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
SlimV, you had an extra "---" that broke the JS. I removed it. Press cntrl-F5. You can also use shift (even withought JS) to select many edits at once.Voice-of-All 20:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Mark Lawson

Comments appreciated on this (just found accidently). Arniep 01:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Crown Copyright

You've just archived your talk page, so I'll respond here. The basic Crown Copyright laid out by HMSO is indeed acceptable as a free license. However, it allows for individual departments to place additional requirements in their copyirhgt notices, some of which make media from them clearly non-free. See for example the copyright notice from the National Archives. Its material is protected by Crown Copyright. However, it also requires the payment of a fee for the use of any of its images. Others, such as the Met Office allow for unlimited reproduction only for private study and scientific research, with any other use requiring explicit permission — ie. {{NonCommercial}}. These also aren't acceptable as free images, though most of the time, the image can be kept under terms of fair use. This is why {{CrownCopyright}} includes a <noinclude> section underneath pointing to the list of acceptable sites at Template talk:CrownCopyright. GeeJo(c) • 10:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

3RR

No. If you read the comments made on the 3RR page last week you'll see that, in fact, I was blocked for adding the same words more than three times. Your interpretation of the 3RR rule is overly broad and unique. Homey 13:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)